Unfortunately, they are so hell--bent to get this flick into theaters before Superman Returns that they've rushed the whole thing. Yeah, it's gonna bring to mind Batman & Robin, no doubt.

JediMaster said:

Except for Spidey2, Marvel's been slipping with their flicks(Daredevil, F4, Blade 3, Elektra). Now I hear Ghost Rider's pushed back - never a good sign.

Meanwhile, DC's on the rise with Batman Begins, and the upcoming Superman Returns. I also have high hopes for Josh Whedon's Wonder Woman.

More X3 smartassery:

I think overall the female casting isn't great

Rogue is too young...
Jean Grey, too old..
Halle Berry is too Halle Berry (Angela Basset would have been excellent casting)
Hugh Jackman plays Wolverine pretty well.
The guy who plays Cylops is OK because he is a dick and you understand why Wolverine hates him.
Xvaiver and Magneto are cast very well.
Allen Cumming as Nightcrawler is a joke
Rebecca as Mystique is hot but doesn't the character have more personality?

You complain Famke is too old to be Jean Grey, but you want Angela Bassett to play Storm?

sextonseven said:

Storm is older than Jean, I think. But Jean is definitely younger than Scott. In age order, it should be Charles, Logan, Scott/Hank, Storm, Jean, then everybody else. Logan may actually be older than Charles. Nobody's sure.
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JediMaster said:

Yeah, it's a shame really, cuz the way I heard it Bryan Singer had a pretty
good idea of where the storyline was headed, and had planned on doing the
Dark Phoenix story over two movies. With Jean returning in X3 with a few
'identity problems' and starting to display disturbingly extensive powers.
The film ending with her saving the X-Men from the 'enemy' by wiping them
out without mercy (therefore kinda turning to the darkside herself). In
X4 she would be the villain, that everyone ends up having to fight against,
climaxing with Cyclops getting throught to her and both of them dying.

Looks like that's all out of the window now, just cuz a certain studio exec
fell out with Singer and rushed to get X3 finished before he releases
Superman Returns, deliberately ignoring any ideas Singer had for the
franchise (and shoehorning some of his own dumb ideas into the mix in the
process). ...not that I'm bitter or anything!

sextonseven said:

Storm is older than Jean, I think. But Jean is definitely younger than Scott. In age order, it should be Charles, Logan, Scott/Hank, Storm, Jean, then everybody else. Logan may actually be older than Charles. Nobody's sure.
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TheSmyrk said:

Storm is actually slightly younger than Jean (though not by much). Logan is most definitely the oldest, as he was revealed to have been born sometime in the late 1800s, according to The Origin

susannah said:

Yup
In fact they were originally gonna do the Wolverine movie inbetween X2 and X3

uPtoWnNY said:

I was looking for some WW movie info the other day. When are we gonna get some updates on that? Everything that came up in my search, Joss was saying "it's in the works." How long is it gonna be in the go* damn works?

IESB: How soon do we get some announcements? Is Joel [Silver] pushing you? When do we find out who is going to be Wonder Woman?

JW: We find out who is going to be Wonder Woman when they cast it…I am finishing the script now, I am a few weeks away from a draft, they'll take a look at that and they'll either say this is absolutely perfect for (the studio) or they'll say this sucks and hire somebody else, it's impossible to say but I think in a few weeks time they should get a sense of what I am doing in the movie and then we can start talking about casting.

IESB: Now do you have anything in mind, what age she is going to be, she is going to be young 20's?

JW: Again, I do and I don't, it's a coming of age story but it's a coming of age story for somebody who's not necessarily an adolescent she's never been off this island that she lives on so she literally could be between 15 and 30, we find the actress who is right for that…we hire her, it doesn't matter how old she is.

IESB: So it's going to be an origin story just like Batman Begins…

JW: Yeah it is, very different than Batman Begins but very similar in being an origin story. But the great thing about her is that she's never been in the world, every experience is new. She's young whether or not she's actually young.

IESB: There are going to villains, there's going to be all that good stuff? And it's going to stay loyal to the comic books?

JW: Well the villains are of my own creation. I don't think Wonder Woman has the greatest rogues gallery in the world so I created someone of my own for her to come up against. It has to do with Greek mythology and the roots that the original comic was built on.

IESB: So when do you think you are going to start shooting?

JW: I have no idea, there is no schedule for this. If they love the script it will be soon if they don't it'll be the other thing, it's impossible to tell. Right now I am in the thick of the script. I feel that it's amazing, I can't wait to shoot it but you show it to the studio and who knows how they are going to react.

JediMaster said:

I didn't know the whole James Howlett story was part of reality. The lines don't like to converge anymore, what with their Ultimates and such.

Hopefully, they'll reveal whether or not Mr. Logan was Jame's actual father, and whether or not Dog turns out to be Sabertooth (thus making him Wolvie's half-brother).

JediMaster said:

That's what I was thinking, but then why didn't Dog's face scars heal? Maybe his powers hadn't manifested yet?

JediMaster said:

That's what I was thinking, but then why didn't Dog's face scars heal? Maybe his powers hadn't manifested yet?

sextonseven said:

I always wondered about Logan's hands. Some artists draw him with the claw ports constantly exposed, like the skin grew around them. But in the movies, he lacerates his skin everytime he uses em, but doesn't bleed. I think that sucks. Just show the claw ports and stop dickin around, people.

TheSmyrk said:

I thought I read in the comics the claws lacerate Wolverine's skin every time also. I think it was when he lost his healing factor temporarily and popped his claws and started bleeding.

You are correct. The "claw ports" are part of his costume, so that he doesn't rip his gloves every time. His healing factor prevents him from bleeding, but he lacerates his skin whenever he pops them. That idea came from the comics, and was incorporated into the movies.

JediMaster said:

Jed, you know I love you. But, the ports are part of his body. Legacy of Department H. Look...







Some artists neglect to draw them in, but every x-ray of his hands ever has the ports in them.

Okay, I stand corrected. It does appear that the ports are a part of his body. Still, one of those shots shows his hands starting to bleed, even with the ports, so it looks like they still cut his flesh when popping out.