That crazy bitch who drowned her 5 kids in the bathtub got herself a fancy lawyer and is now OUT of jail, and in some swanky "metal facility" with a fucking lakeside view!

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH OUR LEGAL SYSTEM?!?!?!?!?!

Check it out; http://www.cnn.com/2006/L...index.html

OK...I got a bit angry so my post was incomplete.

She was in jail awaiting trial.
Her $20,000 bond was basically dismissed thanks to teh sneaky dealings of her fancy lawyer.

So now the bitch is in some swanky "mental facility" (retreat) when she really should be JAIL awaiting trial.

Greetings,

tis good Andrea is out perhaps she can get help now.

spree

the thought to kill your kids crosses all mums' minds at some point, at times of duress, however most luckily would never do such a thing. Post-natal depression can make some women psychotic if untreated, and they can be capable of such things - luckily it is rare. Did she have PND?
I think she will suffer enough after what she has done - she probably will need to be heavily medicated to stop her doing herself in. If I came to my senses and realised I had killed my kids. I would kill myself, how could I live knowing what I had done to those I loved most?

MEspree said:

She needs help in the sense of a bullet in the head.

charlottegelin said:

I believe that PND is what the defense is going to argue.

Yet she was home-schooling her children?!?!?!
And she had FIVE children?!?!!?

And she systematically sought out EACH AND EVERY ONE OF HER CHILDREN...beginning with the baby, and on to the oldest IN AGE ORDER...and drowned them - the oldest kicking and screaming.

Give me ten minutes with that bitch in a bathroom. Her troubles will be over.

WTF?!?!?!

The more I read about this, the ANGRIER I get!

I'm going to sleep.

PurpleJedi said:

I know a lady with PND, she has not told her husband, afraid he will think she is a monster - big social stigma. She went to the doctor and got help and medication, luckily.
She may not have had PND with any of her previous children, and would probably not have recognised the symptoms in herself until it was too late.
I do not know any of the details of this case. Psychosis makes you think in a way that is abnormal. To stop feeling the way she did, she must've thought killing the kids was the only option left to her - now that is a terrifying place to be.
Somebody probably stopped her from killing herself.

PurpleJedi said:

I believe she said she had to chase to oldest one down. The bitch knew what she was doing.

demore said:

just like obsessive compulsives know exactly what they are doing and can't help it

PurpleJedi said:

PJ, i understand your anger - what Andrea Yates did was horrific beyond belief.

but Charlotte is making some very good points about postpartum depression and psychosis. there is still a huge stigma attached, and sadly, many people don't seek treatment.

Andrea Yates is in a state mental hospital - i've never seen one that was "swanky" - until the trial and will go back to jail once the trial begins. this could have been done to adjust her medication, or for other reasons.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

agreed. Its real but I think she still needs to be in the state mental hospital for the rest of her life.

Rhondab said:

true, that would probably be the best for her and her family.

The most important thing is that she will not be free, out on the street to harm anyone else if her mental illness becomes out of control again. She will never truly have a life--a home, a family, the ability to go somewhere just because she feels like it. That seems like hell to me. I think she's already there.

disease or not, i can't believe how the husband reacted after the murders, it was like he had already forgiven her. if those were my kids there would've been a sixth murder that day.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Amen!
I love my wife...but my kids are my life.
Neither one of these people could have possibly loved their kids.

demore said:

Without a doubt.
She's a cold-hearted killer, hiding behind the ambigous veil of mental illness.

charlottegelin said:

If you were OCD and couldn't help spanking your kids every day, then they called the police...you'd be in jail for a better part of your life.
This crazy bitch systematically hunted down her children, drowned them ,and CALMLY called the cops, saying "I just need the police". And she doesn't get to stay in jail? Why? She's a murderer. Crazy or not. Pop her full of pills and keep her in that same 8x10 cell that someone would get for robbing a liquor store.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

STIGMA?!?!?!
Are you KIDDING me?
If you are ashamed of seeking help, then you are retarded on top of crazy.
That's your fault, not your kids'. They're dead as a result. Pay the piper and rot in jail for your stupidity.

Andrea Yates is in a state mental hospital - i've never seen one that was "swanky"

Check out the pictures for yourself then HERE

- until the trial and will go back to jail once the trial begins. this could have been done to adjust her medication, or for other reasons.

They were medicating her in jail. Forgive us if you're inconvenieneced, Mrs. Yates, but your children deserved the petting zoo and lakeside vistas...not you.

PurpleJedi said:

Do you think she is pleading insanity to avoid jail? It could be a possibilty, but wouldnt she undergo tests to determine this? has she?

this is a horrible situation all the way around... the poor children paid the ulitimate price for the mother's issues. i dont understand how noone saw this comming.... and i dont think that the woman was perfectly normal one day and flipped out the next, killing all of her children. in human's we are programmed to protect our children at any cost.. obviously, something was not wired correctly in this woman.

understand that im not saying the woman had any right to THINK about doing something that horrible, let alone DO something like that.


however, i am saying that if the woman is truely ill, sad as that may be that it cost the babies their lives..... locking her up in prison is not the answer either, at least thats my opinion.

i dont think that anyone would choose to live in a mental health facility for the rest of their life, nor would they enjoy it. but prison isnt always the answer. its a tough call as to whether the woman was within her right mind at the time.... but, based on how every other human has reacted to this, im gonna say she was not. noone of normal, sound, mind and body could kill all their kids and walk away without feeling.

i am not a doctor, i am not a judge... infact, im damn glad i am not involved in determining this womans fate, because the whole thing just makes me want to cry for so many reasons....

i think her ex-husband Russell Yates needs to be jailed as well as her.

suzysue said:

Absolutely.

nakedpianoplayer said:

Valid opinion.

However...in MY humble opinion...mental institutions should have the implied goal of rehabilitation and eventual release to society.

Andrea Yates does NOT deserve that. I don't care if aliens zapped her with a mind-numbing psychosis beam that temporarily robbed her of that deeply-ingrained love for one's child that would prevent this horrific act from being carried out.

She needs to be locked up for the rest of her life. A lethal injection would've suited me just fine, but nevertheless she needs to be locked up for life.

WHY she should be in a "mental facility" and not JAIL escapes me. She was in the mental ward of the prison, receiving medication.
WHAT?!?! She wasn't "comfortable"? She needs to be exposed to "art" and "dancing" ? WHY? Is there any justice when she is afforded the commodities of LIFE that she brutally robbed from her children?

Someone needs to explain this to me.

We all agree that she killed her kids.
Why is she still fighting the conviction?

Doesn't sound like she's all that far gone, now does it?

PurpleJedi said:

a mental facility is not a jail, people aren't usually in there are not there for crimes, they are not being punished (although that is debatable) they are being rehabilitated.