Besides, who friggin' cares? It's wrasslin'! It's not exactly highbrow entertainment. It's basically soap-operas for redneck men.

i think you're missing my point. i personally don't think that being gay equals being esmaculated. however, there's more than one person who thinks that it is and believes that any man who is gay is not really a man. This belief is popular in many cultures, including american culture. this belief is changing and more people are becoming openminded about sexuality and making it less of an issue. but it seems to me that the emasculated black screaming queen is a stereotype that the media loves and is hestitant to give up. The flagrant stereotype that exists in the media isn't nearly as prevailant in the real world. However, because of the constant stereotype that is projected by the media, people do automatically equate gay men with not being masculine, don't you see that? It's not like these people hate gay people, they're just responding to what they know and what they know happens to be on TV.

Look at the success of brokeback mountain. That movie is about two men who don't fit the media's gay stereotype and people loved it. I bet there are many people who went into that movie with less than clear thoughts about homosexuality and came out of it with a completely different mindset. The media can change people's minds if it wants to but it rarely ever does and I think that this wrestling storyline is an example of that.

One of the reasons that i enjoyed the show six feet under as much as i did is because they had a black character who was gay and it wasn't really much of an issue. he wasn't feminine in the least, he was just a man who was trying to work out his relationship with another man. For me, it was refreshing to see a black gay man treated with such respect. If this character was feminine, that would have been fine, too just as long as he was presented as a whole person and not defined solely by his sexuality.

All I'm saying is that this wrestling crap fits with the emasculating of the black male in the media. I know that there have been some academic writing on this subject and entire courses about it at certain colleges and universities. It usually seems to fall under a race issue instead of a sexuality issue even though it's both, but whatever.

also, homosexualiy in the black community is a huge, ugly issue. I'm not saying that it's all hunky dory in other culture's either, but i'm not speaking of them right now. saying a black man is gay actually can be one of the worst things you can say about him, depending on who you say it to. it could cost him his life. You may want to read up on sexuality in the black community, i think you would find it very interesting and may even spark some of your intellectual threads, which i tend to enjoy reading.

You can't take sexuality out of its cultural context, you just can't. and i get the feeling that you don't really understand the culture that clearly. Please don't take it as an insult, it's just the impression that i'm getting.

oh, and i think, although i'm not sure, that the obsession with being emasculated comes from the idea that women aren't as good as men and you don't want to be "like them".

i don't beleive that, either but hey...whatever.

Believe me, I'm not trying to say that's what you think.

I guess because my whole life I've been around gay and gay-friendly people I've had very little exposure to true homophobia or even really the way it's handled by the general public and the media. I admit that I've sort of lived in a bubble in this regard, so I have a hard time wrapping my mind around why being falsely accused of being gay is such a big deal to some people.


I've got to go offline now, so I'll have to reply to your other post later.

Had an wrestler fall 30 feet to his death by accident at a pay per view and STILL continued the show.....