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Larry David OpEd on Brokeback Mountain http://www.iht.com/articl...ddavid.php
Did anyone see this? I thought it was pretty funny. I had a discussion with a straight male friend this last weekend about how he respected that this was supposed to be a good movie - but he just is NOT interested in seeing two guys romantically/physically interacting. He explained that he has no prejudices against gay men - but that it's just a visceral repellant response from most straight men and thus they lack interest in the topic of a gay love story. Also, this guy is definitely straight and not homo-phobic - I can personally attest to that. How many straight men out there feel this way also? VOTE....EARLY | |
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hmmm.. there was an article in our paper by a reviewer who said that opening night of this film he saw it with a young fashionable gay crowd and there was laughter during the sex scene and during the reunion kiss... but when he saw it with a straight audience later on, there was dramatic silence during the same scenes.
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Did anyone see this? I thought it was pretty funny. I had a discussion with a straight male friend this last weekend about how he respected that this was supposed to be a good movie - but he just is NOT interested in seeing two guys romantically/physically interacting. He explained that he has no prejudices against gay men - but that it's just a visceral repellant response from most straight men and thus they lack interest in the topic of a gay love story. Also, this guy is definitely straight and not homo-phobic - I can personally attest to that. How many straight men out there feel this way also? My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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 I doubt I will ever see this film, not because of the gay theme, but westerns and love stories bore my brains out  | |
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damn, larry david just made himself sound like the biggest closet case. | |
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JasmineFire said: damn, larry david just made himself sound like the biggest closet case.
whadda schmuck. i've had to watch heterosexuals boinking their brains out for 35 years and i don't give a shit as long as the story's good. i'll watch a movie with two lesbian romantic leads if the story's good. if you wanna watch a movie because of who's screwing who, go get some porn. shit. 
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Anxiety said: whadda schmuck. i've had to watch heterosexuals boinking their brains out for 35 years and i don't give a shit as long as the story's good. i'll watch a movie with two lesbian romantic leads if the story's good. if you wanna watch a movie because of who's screwing who, go get some porn. shit. I think Larry was half-kidding in that Seinfeld way, like he's making fun of his own insecurities more than anything. But, yeah, I'm with you here, and it pisses me off royally. This dovetails with that Maxwell conversation going on in the Music forum, where suddenly anything gay is reduced to gay sex and any other layers are ignored. People who won't see it beacause of a few (timid) gay sex scenes are just threatened, plain and simple -- or they don't like Westerns, fair enough.  [Edited 1/10/06 6:34am] | |
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JasmineFire said: damn, larry david just made himself sound like the biggest closet case.
I think that was the point. Larry David's stuff is always poking fun an neurosis in himself. Men who aren't secure in their sexuality probably think like this. I mean, c'mon, he's talking about how his "inner voice" will tell him "you like those cowboys, don't you?". Sorry, I think that's some funny shit. Hell, he ends the whole thing with the "not that there's anything wrong with that" bit from the "gay" episode of Seinfeld, so I think it's pretty obvious that the dude isn't being serious. It's satire folks, and it's poking fun at heterosexual insecurity. 
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JediMaster said: JasmineFire said: damn, larry david just made himself sound like the biggest closet case.
I think that was the point. Larry David's stuff is always poking fun an neurosis in himself. Men who aren't secure in their sexuality probably think like this. I mean, c'mon, he's talking about how his "inner voice" will tell him "you like those cowboys, don't you?". Sorry, I think that's some funny shit. Hell, he ends the whole thing with the "not that there's anything wrong with that" bit from the "gay" episode of Seinfeld, so I think it's pretty obvious that the dude isn't being serious. It's satire folks, and it's poking fun at heterosexual insecurity. well, okay. if anyone is good at extracting the sacred cow juice from any given topic, it's larry david. i'll buy it for a quarter. | |
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Larry David is funnier than this.
I don't think it's offensive, but it's not particularly clever or well thought out either. What is funny about that particular Seinfeld episode (and all episodes really) is that the humor is partially directed inwards, showing the subjects to be caught up in their own neuroses, but also part of the larger neuroses of society in general. This "op ed" just seems oddly defensive (not of closeted homosexuality or homophobia necessarily, but certainly of his own poorly thought out reaction to the movie.) No soup for Larry! | |
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JediMaster said: JasmineFire said: damn, larry david just made himself sound like the biggest closet case.
I think that was the point. Larry David's stuff is always poking fun an neurosis in himself. Men who aren't secure in their sexuality probably think like this. I mean, c'mon, he's talking about how his "inner voice" will tell him "you like those cowboys, don't you?". Sorry, I think that's some funny shit. Hell, he ends the whole thing with the "not that there's anything wrong with that" bit from the "gay" episode of Seinfeld, so I think it's pretty obvious that the dude isn't being serious. It's satire folks, and it's poking fun at heterosexual insecurity. That's how I saw it too - but I also agree that Larry has - can can be - funnier - but he does strike a chord with this topic and particular movie. This piece seems to fit right along side the whole Seinfeld episode where Geroge is afraid of being thought of as gay "not that there's anything wrong with that." Brokeback is being lauded for its cinematic achievement - but the topic is still bothersome for a large majority of straight men to swallow (no pun intended  ). What else could it be but insecurity about stepping out of the atypical straight male role our society has painted?
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DiminutiveRocker said: JediMaster said: I think that was the point. Larry David's stuff is always poking fun an neurosis in himself. Men who aren't secure in their sexuality probably think like this. I mean, c'mon, he's talking about how his "inner voice" will tell him "you like those cowboys, don't you?". Sorry, I think that's some funny shit. Hell, he ends the whole thing with the "not that there's anything wrong with that" bit from the "gay" episode of Seinfeld, so I think it's pretty obvious that the dude isn't being serious. It's satire folks, and it's poking fun at heterosexual insecurity. That's how I saw it too - but I also agree that Larry has - can can be - funnier - but he does strike a chord with this topic and particular movie. This piece seems to fit right along side the whole Seinfeld episode where Geroge is afraid of being thought of as gay "not that there's anything wrong with that." Brokeback is being lauded for its cinematic achievement - but the topic is still bothersome for a large majority of straight men to swallow (no pun intended ). What else could it be but insecurity about stepping out of the atypical straight male role our society has painted?
mini [Edited 1/10/06 12:55pm] i realized that it was satire but goodness, larry david can't be more creative than that? straight men being insecure about their sexuality is so old and tired already. | |
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I think not going to see a movie like Brokeback Mountain because of a few relatively tame scenes of boy/boy contact is a pretty lame excuse. Queer folks have spent their entire lives sitting through movies, tv shows, commercials and damn near everything else with straight sex in it, and you don't hear them crying about it. Straight boys: suck it up and quit whining about the icky boy love.
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The article wouldn't let me copy what Larry David said, but who read the part where he talked about how gay men are always singing at Christmas parties?   looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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DiminutiveRocker said: JThat's how I saw it too - but I also agree that Larry has - can can be - funnier - but he does strike a chord with this topic and particular movie.
This piece seems to fit right along side the whole Seinfeld episode where Geroge is afraid of being thought of as gay "not that there's anything wrong with that." Brokeback is being lauded for its cinematic achievement - but the topic is still bothersome for a large majority of straight men to swallow (no pun intended ). What else could it be but insecurity about stepping out of the atypical straight male role our society has painted? http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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huh? You won't see an emotionally poignant movie because of what?
meow85 said: I think not going to see a movie like Brokeback Mountain because of a few relatively tame scenes of boy/boy contact is a pretty lame excuse. Queer folks have spent their entire lives sitting through movies, tv shows, commercials and damn near everything else with straight sex in it, and you don't hear them crying about it. Straight boys: suck it up and quit whining about the icky boy love.
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ufoclub said: huh? You won't see an emotionally poignant movie because of what?
believe or not, lots of straight men won't.  VOTE....EARLY | |
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but thats a girl...
DiminutiveRocker said: ufoclub said: huh? You won't see an emotionally poignant movie because of what?
believe or not, lots of straight men won't. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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I can understand your friends views. | |
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ufoclub said: huh? You won't see an emotionally poignant movie because of what?
meow85 said: I think not going to see a movie like Brokeback Mountain because of a few relatively tame scenes of boy/boy contact is a pretty lame excuse. Queer folks have spent their entire lives sitting through movies, tv shows, commercials and damn near everything else with straight sex in it, and you don't hear them crying about it. Straight boys: suck it up and quit whining about the icky boy love.
No pun, of course. I think you mis-read her comments. She is saying it is ridiculous to not see an emotionally compelling film just because it has a couple dudes kissing.
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I did misread that... whew! I thought she said "I think I am not going to see..." lol.... sorry for the misreading.
JediMaster said: ufoclub said: huh? You won't see an emotionally poignant movie because of what?
I think you mis-read her comments. She is saying it is ridiculous to not see an emotionally compelling film just because it has a couple dudes kissing. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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JediMaster said: ufoclub said: huh? You won't see an emotionally poignant movie because of what?
I think you mis-read her comments. She is saying it is ridiculous to not see an emotionally compelling film just because it has a couple dudes kissing. 
The only reason I haven't seen it is because the closest theatre it's playing at is 5 hours away.  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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ufoclub said: I did misread that... whew! I thought she said "I think I am not going to see..." lol.... sorry for the misreading.
JediMaster said: I think you mis-read her comments. She is saying it is ridiculous to not see an emotionally compelling film just because it has a couple dudes kissing. Don't worry about it.  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: I think not going to see a movie like Brokeback Mountain because of a few relatively tame scenes of boy/boy contact is a pretty lame excuse. Queer folks have spent their entire lives sitting through movies, tv shows, commercials and damn near everything else with straight sex in it, and you don't hear them crying about it. Straight boys: suck it up and quit whining about the icky boy love.
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I'm worried that if I see this film it will turn me gay!  When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. | |
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bkw said: I'm worried that if I see this film it will turn me gay!
If the org hasn't then I think ur safe lol | |
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Oceans said: bkw said: I'm worried that if I see this film it will turn me gay!
If the org hasn't then I think ur safe lol
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