theAudience said:

Personally I find these avatars are broadcasting personal characteristics in a way that has more in common with hookers than with paglia.
[Edited 1/13/06 12:21pm]

ChitChat said:

That very well may be, however I wasn't referring to avatars.
My point was to combine the characteristics of a "feminist" laid out by XxAxX ("feminists prefer to be appreciated for their intelligence, personality, character...") and Rhondab ("I think sexuality should be INCLUDED...").

Very Paglia.


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CarrieLee said:

CarrieLee said:

I agree!!!!

I went out on a limb with mine. I have a few reasons for my new avie. It is me and not another women. I was sort of dared to do something really out of character for me. I figured- what the hell, I probably will never meet any of you guys. If I do, I am sure they will not remember my ass posted in an avie.
It was sort of liberating to do something new & different for the new year. First time I have ever taken a pic of myself like that.
I think everyone should be free to express themselves through there avie any way they want to unless they offend someone with the pic.
If anyone is offended by my avie- orgnote me and I will remove as soon as possible..

theAudience said:

Sure, sexuality is a part of feminism. But advertising the goods like a hooker isn't very 'feminist'

Does anyone have any pictures of Paglia wearing a bikini?

It means you can catch gonorrea via org noting them, or vice versa

sinisterpentatonic said:

BING-O!

XxAxX said:

I always thought it was a yellow french man, wearing a beret and had a big nose! Seriously!

XxAxX said:

the one i used was me ..

i think the female body is beautiful so i dont mind ones who use any nude form

Interesting points, all, but XxAxX, why ask why?

I'd hate for questions & arguments like yours to cause all the models of the world to decide "you know, I'm not going to let myself be an object of desire anymore, I want to write bitter poetry."

Okay, I'm only half serious, but a healthy expression of male & female sexuality, even if it is based on stereotypical gender roles, is not only okay, but very pleasant. As long as women aren't forced to assume those roles, I think many they can accept them just as men accept masculine roles.

Mach said:

I feel one of the problems in the US is that the human body is a bad thing. We are not told to celebrate it and feel good about it..

REDBABY said:

i always thought it was a bird with a lit match.

I like my pretty girl avvie

JasmineFire said:

How did you explain the easel and painters hat?

This is still Prince.org online fan community isn't it?

ChitChat said:

We'll there's been many who would agrue that "hookers" in many ways are more "feminist" than women who trade sex for love. And every expression of the female form isn't anti feminist nor does it need to be deemed "hookerish".


I just use pics of me in my avvies....maybe its vain....maybe its anti-feminist...but who really cares.

Rhondab said:

CO-SIGN!!!!

ChitChat said:

I don't get the Paglia/bikini connection nor do I see anything wrong with any woman being photographed in a bikini if that's her choice.

Isn't that what part of feminism is about?
A woman having the power to make her own choices.
(without being restricted by men or other women for that matter)


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theAudience said:

I haven't read any of the discussion on this thread but came straight to the bottom and read this.

... I just have to say "I love you"

I WISH I looked like this! Yes it gets me more attention than my robot avvies ever did, AND I even had to make a petition to use it. I like this photo because I wanted my avvie over the summer to say "beach-bum", and this one SO does.

and XxAxX,

you say

since when is anything NORMAL in at the ORG

Someone said to me kudos for using this avvie, as a mum of three it shows another dimension to me other than "mother"?

theAudience said:

yeppers!!!

theAudience said:

i do think women should have the power to make their own decisions about their sexuality. but, what i was getting at is why present yourself like that using someone else's image of sexuality? why use the anime babes? why not do what shanti did and take a pic of yourself and post it?

anyway i want to apologize for being so... critical in posting this thread. i was bored yesterday and just wanted to nit pick and bring shit and stuff.
i don't hate those who use perky-breasted bare bum avatars. i just... felt like brawling

shanti0608 said:

actually it's really tastefully done. now that's feminist porn. and i mean that nicely

Rhondab said:

i like the actual pics of actual ORGers. what i don't get is how, if a woman is expressing her sexuality freely, she accomplishes this end by using the cartoon barbie-style image of female beauty

charlottegelin said:

ok. that lady does have a very nice bum. i'd prefer if it were a male bum personally but to each her own.

XxAxX said:

I totally get you. It's not that you think female nudity is shameful, it's that so many of the images used are so unrealistic--big fake tits, teeny waist, board-flat stomach. It would be nice to see either the real orger or something more representative of a "real" female to symbolize her.

((yet that's probably part of it--we want to think of ourselves as the idealized version of femininity rather than see ourselves as we truly are physically))
[Edited 1/14/06 11:54am]

Because I like my naked fairies

AnotherLoverToo said:

exactly. why buy into the stereotype?

HollowellSA said:

sorry! please don't take it personally. i'm just taking out my mid-winter bluues your avatar is gorgeous

XxAxX said:

No worries