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Reply #60 posted 01/08/06 7:45pm

unlucky7

Astral Projection is pretty cool, done it a few times.



I have a psychic circle....never worked....oh well.
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Reply #61 posted 01/08/06 9:30pm

Rhondab

Cinnie said:

Rhondab said:

nah...nothing good can come from it.


well that's just no fun razz



exactly!!!
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Reply #62 posted 01/09/06 7:41am

funkii

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i want to try it but im too scared 2 sad
You saw the apple
hanging on the tree,
But missed the orchid
in your gaze
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Reply #63 posted 01/09/06 7:51am

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My friend and I used one....never again

Afterwards,I took a nap and my bed started shaking
I told no one...
A few days later my friend told me she got sleepy so she took a nap and her bed starting shaking!!! eek


For days I prayed heavily before bed. I told my roommate & she was so scared,she slept with her bible.
[Edited 1/9/06 7:53am]
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Reply #64 posted 01/09/06 7:56am

CarrieMpls

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I had one as a kid. I don't 'believe in' them. Someone's alwasy pushing it whether they believe they are or not. shrug
It was fun to freak ourselves out with it when I was little, though.
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Reply #65 posted 01/09/06 8:18am

funkii

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spiritual protection

http://www.boudicca.de/ouipr-e.htm

people actually do this stuff?
You saw the apple
hanging on the tree,
But missed the orchid
in your gaze
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Reply #66 posted 01/09/06 8:22am

1sexymf

ThreadCula said:

My friend and I used one....never again

Afterwards,I took a nap and my bed started shaking
I told no one...
A few days later my friend told me she got sleepy so she took a nap and her bed starting shaking!!! eek


For days I prayed heavily before bed. I told my roommate & she was so scared,she slept with her bible.
[Edited 1/9/06 7:53am]


I played with one once as a teenager - NEVER AGAIN!

A few days later, my sister who played with me, was sitting on the windowsill of our bedroom window. She barely touched the window (her back was to it) and it shattered. If she had been leaning furhter back, she would have fallen with it.
Those things invite evil if you ask me.
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Reply #67 posted 01/09/06 8:41am

AsylumUtopia

I'm amazed so many people believe that these things are actually dangerous. We are after all talking about a piece of wood (or more likely cardboard or plastic) with some numbers and letters on it. The only danger as far as I can see is in letting a crowd of gullible people loose with one - all sorts of rumours of alleged happenings abound.

Penn & Teller very easily debunked the power of ouija boards on their "Bullshit" show, anyone who thinks they are anything more than a game, I suggest you try this at home :

- Invite several people to take part in a ouija session, but don't partake yourself, just observe.

- Marvel in unfettered awe as 'dead people' start to answer simple questions by moving the tumbler to the 'yes' and 'no' positions, be amazed as they start to 'talk' to your friends through the letters and numbers on the board.

- Now blindfold your friends - as it's the dead people moving the tumbler around the board, and not the participants, they don't need to see, right?

- Now turn the board (quietly) 90 degrees and ask the group to resume.

- Marvel in unfettered awe as your friends continually point the tumbler to where the 'yes' and 'no' used to be when they last looked at the board, be amazed as strings of gibberish ensue, and the tumbler falls off the board because they don't know where the edges are anymore (works better if your board is rectangular).

That should make it pretty clear that it actually is the participants moving the tumbler, even if they aren't aware of it.


And if that isn't proof enough - why is it marketed as a game ? Why can you buy it in Toys'R'Us ?


I've tried it a few times myself. It's a good laugh, but only if the participants either believe it works or are skeptical and think it might work. Otherwise it's just a group of people pushing a tumbler around with their fingers. I can think of better things to do. I do however recommend that everybody tries it themselves, if only because it's so much more satisfying to prove for yourself that it's a load of cobblers than to take someone else's word for it.






I see ouija boards, they're everywhere.
[Edited 1/9/06 8:49am]
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Reply #68 posted 01/09/06 9:23am

TheBatman

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AsylumUtopia said:

That should make it pretty clear that it actually is the participants moving the tumbler, even if they aren't aware of it.

no no no! I did this once as a teen and I know for a fact, there was no way either I, or my ex-girlfriend were moving the tumbler. Our observing friends thought we were moving it, yet our fingers were barely, and I mean barely touching the thing.

Nothing bad happened, but the things this certain spirit spelled out, were things he shouldn't have known. It would have been one thing if they were my questions, but it was answering questions from other observers in the room. Neither of us could have spelled out answers we didn't know.

She threw the game in the trash the very next day. There is defenitely somthing creepy about them, enough to even make a movie about it. The Bible warns against such instruments... it's nothing fake and your best bet is to stay away from them.


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Reply #69 posted 01/09/06 9:27am

sinisterpentat
onic

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sinisterpentatonic said:

How do you think Hitler made all of his decisions? smile


Please show some facts to back up this statement.It is known,he was deep into the occult and astrology..but the ouija board? Where did you get the information? .reading Hitler was one twisted soul in human form.
pc i will be waiting for ur response...thnx


k.
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Reply #70 posted 01/09/06 9:28am

meltwithu

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we tried to bring back the spirit of joan rivers...until i found she wasn't actually dead; she was just at the door :-evillol:
you look better on your facebook page than you do in person hmph!
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Reply #71 posted 01/09/06 9:39am

funkii

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what about the people that do it by themselves?
a guy i went to school with used to do it
by himself quite regularly


is it really fake?
You saw the apple
hanging on the tree,
But missed the orchid
in your gaze
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Reply #72 posted 01/09/06 9:46am

Reincarnate

funkii said:

spiritual protection

http://www.boudicca.de/ouipr-e.htm

people actually do this stuff?



No, not me biggrin

I put my feet on the ground and visualise myself surrounded by an invisible golden shell. Some people say a prayer, asking for protection and to access only higher realms. After the session you close by asking any spirits to leave and saying thankyou.
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Reply #73 posted 01/09/06 9:50am

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have you done it on your own before?

id like to hear from someone that has done it on their own
what AsylumUtopia said about it being fake has got me very curious
You saw the apple
hanging on the tree,
But missed the orchid
in your gaze
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Reply #74 posted 01/09/06 10:03am

CinisterCee

I don't believe you can summon dead celeb spirits lol
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Reply #75 posted 01/09/06 10:12am

Machaela

funkii said:

spiritual protection

http://www.boudicca.de/ouipr-e.htm

people actually do this stuff?


nod

and not just towards a Ouija board
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Reply #76 posted 01/09/06 10:13am

Machaela

Reincarnate said:

funkii said:

spiritual protection

http://www.boudicca.de/ouipr-e.htm

people actually do this stuff?



No, not me biggrin

I put my feet on the ground and visualise myself surrounded by an invisible golden shell. Some people say a prayer, asking for protection and to access only higher realms. After the session you close by asking any spirits to leave and saying thankyou.


worship
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Reply #77 posted 01/09/06 10:24am

Cinnie

Machaela said:

Reincarnate said:




No, not me biggrin

I put my feet on the ground and visualise myself surrounded by an invisible golden shell. Some people say a prayer, asking for protection and to access only higher realms. After the session you close by asking any spirits to leave and saying thankyou.


worship


I've heard about all that stuff but I'm not sure I would be able to make it through the "woosh" feeling of leaving my body. That weird paralysis makes me feel claustrophobic.
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Reply #78 posted 01/09/06 10:46am

Shorty

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AsylumUtopia said:

I'm amazed so many people believe that these things are actually dangerous. We are after all talking about a piece of wood (or more likely cardboard or plastic) with some numbers and letters on it. The only danger as far as I can see is in letting a crowd of gullible people loose with one - all sorts of rumours of alleged happenings abound.

Penn & Teller very easily debunked the power of ouija boards on their "Bullshit" show, anyone who thinks they are anything more than a game, I suggest you try this at home :

- Invite several people to take part in a ouija session, but don't partake yourself, just observe.

- Marvel in unfettered awe as 'dead people' start to answer simple questions by moving the tumbler to the 'yes' and 'no' positions, be amazed as they start to 'talk' to your friends through the letters and numbers on the board.

- Now blindfold your friends - as it's the dead people moving the tumbler around the board, and not the participants, they don't need to see, right?

- Now turn the board (quietly) 90 degrees and ask the group to resume.

- Marvel in unfettered awe as your friends continually point the tumbler to where the 'yes' and 'no' used to be when they last looked at the board, be amazed as strings of gibberish ensue, and the tumbler falls off the board because they don't know where the edges are anymore (works better if your board is rectangular).

That should make it pretty clear that it actually is the participants moving the tumbler, even if they aren't aware of it.


And if that isn't proof enough - why is it marketed as a game ? Why can you buy it in Toys'R'Us ?


I've tried it a few times myself. It's a good laugh, but only if the participants either believe it works or are skeptical and think it might work. Otherwise it's just a group of people pushing a tumbler around with their fingers. I can think of better things to do. I do however recommend that everybody tries it themselves, if only because it's so much more satisfying to prove for yourself that it's a load of cobblers than to take someone else's word for it.






I see ouija boards, they're everywhere.
[Edited 1/9/06 8:49am]


Ding! it's a bunch of BULLSHIT! We used to use it all the time as kids...we even had a friend who died in a car crash..we went to his grave on halloween at midnight with the thing and nothing happened....sure...we got freaked out but...it didn't have anything to do with the parker brothers ouija board we were using.
I do believe in spirits.....I do believe they are able to contact some people...but I DO NOT believe the Ouija board is the vehicle that they need.
someone is ALWAYS pushing it....ALWAYS.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #79 posted 01/09/06 11:57am

Reincarnate

Cinnie said:

Machaela said:



worship


I've heard about all that stuff but I'm not sure I would be able to make it through the "woosh" feeling of leaving my body. That weird paralysis makes me feel claustrophobic.

No, no ... this isn't astral projection - it's just spiritual protection - keeping grounded and saying a prayer is all it is really.
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Reply #80 posted 01/09/06 12:00pm

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how the hell is parker brothers gonna market a spirit? lol

never worked, not as a kid, not now... I could always tell it was fake.....
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Reply #81 posted 01/09/06 12:55pm

Cinnie

Reincarnate said:

Cinnie said:



I've heard about all that stuff but I'm not sure I would be able to make it through the "woosh" feeling of leaving my body. That weird paralysis makes me feel claustrophobic.

No, no ... this isn't astral projection - it's just spiritual protection - keeping grounded and saying a prayer is all it is really.


Oh... I thought everyone was talking about spiritual protection in preparation for astral projection.
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Reply #82 posted 01/09/06 1:51pm

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ufoclub said:

how the hell is parker brothers gonna market a spirit? lol

never worked, not as a kid, not now... I could always tell it was fake.....



while people have been using boards similar to the ouija for more than a century, Ouija itself came about as kind of a by-product of the whole spiritualist movement that was all the rage in the early 1900's, especially In Europe. The Ouija board, the kind we see in toy stores today, came about in 1889 when William Fuld of Baltimore, Maryland, and his brother Isaac, marketed Ouija boards to the American public after seeing Mediums use similar boards in Europe. At the time, People bought the board not as a game, but as a device with which they would talk to their loved ones killed in battle during the two world wars. Around 1960, Parker Brothers approached the two Fuld brothers since the Fulds were having trouble making enough boards to satisfy the demand for them. PB then took over the rights, but decided to market it more as a game.

Incidentally, I used to be pretty sure the whole thing was fake, until my friends, family and I had a bad experince with it. All I'll say is that my brother ended up driving to a roadside dumpster and hurling it into the trash...So I can't say I'd actually recommend it. Some people use it, and nothing happens at all.....I do know I don't wanna experience it again...

My brother and I actually worked part time in a rectory, so he later asked the local pastor what the deal was, because we read in a old Catechism book (from the 1940's) that the Church actually forbids people from using them...we asked if that was actually true(especially since it's now marketed as a "game"). He answered that it's not so much that it's forbidden so much as that it can be a problem because you can end up potentially getting into an area(Spiritually, Psychologically and however else)that people really don't know much about....not that it always happens... in fact, it probably doesn't most of the time...

...I just know a) My curiosity was satisfied, and
b) I ain't tryin' it no more....



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[Edited 1/9/06 14:08pm]
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Reply #83 posted 01/09/06 2:14pm

Reincarnate

Cinnie said:

Reincarnate said:


No, no ... this isn't astral projection - it's just spiritual protection - keeping grounded and saying a prayer is all it is really.


Oh... I thought everyone was talking about spiritual protection in preparation for astral projection.

hug
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Reply #84 posted 01/09/06 3:37pm

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Reincarnate said:

Cinnie said:



I've heard about all that stuff but I'm not sure I would be able to make it through the "woosh" feeling of leaving my body. That weird paralysis makes me feel claustrophobic.

No, no ... this isn't astral projection - it's just spiritual protection - keeping grounded and saying a prayer is all it is really.


If spirits can influence a board to spell words then can they influence other things in our daily lives?
As equality grows, violence declines.
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Reply #85 posted 01/09/06 3:51pm

Reincarnate

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Reincarnate said:


No, no ... this isn't astral projection - it's just spiritual protection - keeping grounded and saying a prayer is all it is really.


If spirits can influence a board to spell words then can they influence other things in our daily lives?

hmmm That's a difficult question to answer. I don't know how other people will answer it but I can only answer from my own beliefs. I'm not sure I can explain how I feel about it very well but I'll try.

I believe in God and oneness. So when we die, I believe we retain our own experiences and individuality but we also join with God again. Our individuality is contained in our soul but there is also a universal consciousness. To me, although we have free choice, there is also a pattern or degree of predictability about the universe. So, everything in our daily lives is influenced by God.

Spirits, to me, are souls. We have certain souls that we have made "contracts" with before we've incarnated here on earth. Sometimes souls will try to help us here and sometimes souls who have not incarnated will try to help us.
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Reply #86 posted 01/09/06 3:54pm

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I just doubt that a point of contact would be a board, antique or not, that even in it's original american invention was exploiting people crazy with the need to contact loved ones.

I would love to have a scary encounter with something supernatural. When I was little i craved it... but, alas, nothing yet.
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Reply #87 posted 01/09/06 4:04pm

Reincarnate

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I just doubt that a point of contact would be a board, antique or not, that even in it's original american invention was exploiting people crazy with the need to contact loved ones.

I would love to have a scary encounter with something supernatural. When I was little i craved it... but, alas, nothing yet.

The point of contact with our loved ones is rarely the board. It's in everyday things that we often dismiss as being coincidences.

The board can bring forward souls who are not yet aware or who have "issues" of some sort. They haven't yet found the universal love. That's what I believe and I think it's wrong to meddle with those souls unless you can help them.
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Reply #88 posted 01/09/06 4:11pm

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Reincarnate said:

Electrostar said:



If spirits can influence a board to spell words then can they influence other things in our daily lives?

hmmm That's a difficult question to answer. I don't know how other people will answer it but I can only answer from my own beliefs. I'm not sure I can explain how I feel about it very well but I'll try.

I believe in God and oneness. So when we die, I believe we retain our own experiences and individuality but we also join with God again. Our individuality is contained in our soul but there is also a universal consciousness. To me, although we have free choice, there is also a pattern or degree of predictability about the universe. So, everything in our daily lives is influenced by God.

Spirits, to me, are souls. We have certain souls that we have made "contracts" with before we've incarnated here on earth. Sometimes souls will try to help us here and sometimes souls who have not incarnated will try to help us.


Would a contacted spirit be able to confirm God?
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Reply #89 posted 01/09/06 4:14pm

Reincarnate

Electrostar said:

Reincarnate said:


hmmm That's a difficult question to answer. I don't know how other people will answer it but I can only answer from my own beliefs. I'm not sure I can explain how I feel about it very well but I'll try.

I believe in God and oneness. So when we die, I believe we retain our own experiences and individuality but we also join with God again. Our individuality is contained in our soul but there is also a universal consciousness. To me, although we have free choice, there is also a pattern or degree of predictability about the universe. So, everything in our daily lives is influenced by God.

Spirits, to me, are souls. We have certain souls that we have made "contracts" with before we've incarnated here on earth. Sometimes souls will try to help us here and sometimes souls who have not incarnated will try to help us.


Would a contacted spirit be able to confirm God?


To confirm God's existence? I don't know what a contacted spirit will tell you.

But if you believe, as I do, that there is no randomness to the Universe, then you have to come to the conclusion that "something" is creating the pattern. To me, that has to be God.

But as to what a contacted spirit or soul would say, I have no idea. Ask them wink (... but not through a Ouija.)
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