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Thread started 01/05/06 10:34am

Reincarnate

This story makes me realise I could commit murder

I always felt I could kill if anyone harmed my family.

I'm so anti-killing anything that it would take a lot though.

But this story made me sick when I first heard it and I really think these guys should be castrated. I don't agree with state killing but if the girl's relatives wanted to go ahead and do it, I'd find them "not guilty" at trial:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...585138.stm

(For those who can't be bothered to read a link, the story is about a 3 year old girl who was this week abducted and raped. Three men have been arrested in connection with the crime and they're aged 47, 34 and 26).
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Reply #1 posted 01/05/06 10:37am

2canplaythis

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They would never find all the pieces of their bodies..... evil
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Reply #2 posted 01/05/06 10:41am

Anxiety

keep in mind that if you want to kill someone because they committed murder, you let their crime define you. as understandable as it is to react to these stories with strong moral resignation, i think it's important to either learn to rise above or else just keep away from reading those stories to start with.
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Reply #3 posted 01/05/06 10:43am

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Anxiety said:

keep in mind that if you want to kill someone because they committed murder, you let their crime define you. as understandable as it is to react to these stories with strong moral resignation, i think it's important to either learn to rise above or else just keep away from reading those stories to start with.

Yes I agree. I'm very much against capital punishment and against killing any living beings.

However, if that happened to a three year old relative of mine, I don't think I could stop myself from thinking those thoughts.
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Reply #4 posted 01/05/06 10:53am

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Anxiety said:

keep in mind that if you want to kill someone because they committed murder, you let their crime define you. as understandable as it is to react to these stories with strong moral resignation, i think it's important to either learn to rise above or else just keep away from reading those stories to start with.



perhaps in prison they'll find out about the downside of rape from the other inmates . ..
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Reply #5 posted 01/05/06 11:07am

Anxiety

XxAxX said:

Anxiety said:

keep in mind that if you want to kill someone because they committed murder, you let their crime define you. as understandable as it is to react to these stories with strong moral resignation, i think it's important to either learn to rise above or else just keep away from reading those stories to start with.



perhaps in prison they'll find out about the downside of rape from the other inmates . ..


karma, on the other hand, is a good ol', natural bitch.
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Reply #6 posted 01/05/06 11:18am

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Anxiety said:

keep in mind that if you want to kill someone because they committed murder, you let their crime define you. as understandable as it is to react to these stories with strong moral resignation, i think it's important to either learn to rise above or else just keep away from reading those stories to start with.


well in this case...I'd want to kill someone because they raped a 3 year old so...how does their crime define me?
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #7 posted 01/05/06 11:26am

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oh my god. my daughter is three . . .




disbelief i don't even want to think about it. but i know i would definitely want to get my hands on them. castration is too kind.
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Reply #8 posted 01/05/06 11:29am

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XxAxX said:

Anxiety said:

keep in mind that if you want to kill someone because they committed murder, you let their crime define you. as understandable as it is to react to these stories with strong moral resignation, i think it's important to either learn to rise above or else just keep away from reading those stories to start with.



perhaps in prison they'll find out about the downside of rape from the other inmates . ..



Is that all true about treatment of child molester inmates by other inmates?
Seen a few movies about that..if so that's pretty damn good punishment in itself
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Reply #9 posted 01/05/06 11:29am

Anxiety

Shorty said:

Anxiety said:

keep in mind that if you want to kill someone because they committed murder, you let their crime define you. as understandable as it is to react to these stories with strong moral resignation, i think it's important to either learn to rise above or else just keep away from reading those stories to start with.


well in this case...I'd want to kill someone because they raped a 3 year old so...how does their crime define me?


why wouldn't you want to have them raped too? eye for an eye, after all.
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Reply #10 posted 01/05/06 11:32am

mdiver

Straight up 20 mins with those fuckers is all it would take.Justice. pray
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Reply #11 posted 01/05/06 11:38am

Shorty

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origmnd said:

XxAxX said:




perhaps in prison they'll find out about the downside of rape from the other inmates . ..



Is that all true about treatment of child molester inmates by other inmates?
Seen a few movies about that..if so that's pretty damn good punishment in itself

My brother is a maxium security prison guard....child molesters are the bottom of the barrel in prison. My bro works at the prison where that child molesting priest..Gagon was killed by an inmate.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #12 posted 01/05/06 11:40am

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Anxiety said:

Shorty said:



well in this case...I'd want to kill someone because they raped a 3 year old so...how does their crime define me?


why wouldn't you want to have them raped too? eye for an eye, after all.



ehh...dead is good enough for me. I wouldn't shed no tears for their sore asses if they were raped but...I'd just kill the muthafucka. shrug
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"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #13 posted 01/05/06 11:57am

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I honestly think I would lose my mind if I ever caught someone assaulting a young child like this. I think I would operate automatically because I could not sit by and do nothing while it happened.
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Reply #14 posted 01/05/06 12:27pm

Anxiety

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I honestly think I would lose my mind if I ever caught someone assaulting a young child like this. I think I would operate automatically because I could not sit by and do nothing while it happened.


in truth, i would probably do the same thing, or at the very least i'm sure instinct would win out over whatever i think my "moral high ground" might be.

though this has been an internal debate ever since i first had the question posed to me from reading the book "dead man walking" by sister helen prejean. even SHE said that if a loved one were murdered, she couldn't swear that she herself wouldn't want to kill the murderer.
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Reply #15 posted 01/05/06 12:56pm

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Leaving them in prison would make them wish they were dead. Once everyone knows that they are a child molester... It would be over for their ass. I really don't think that justice system's efforts can fully rehabilitate or "change" the behaviors of a child molester. Castrating them and sending them back onto the streets can only make the problem worse because with them, it's all in the mind. They get off on control and taking the innocence away. Some even do it because of what was done to them as children (it's still no excuse). If they are not still watching kiddie porn, (perpetuating the child sex industry) then they may try to find different ways to satisfy their urges. What if the frustration makes them more violent toward children because they feel like they are being led on but, never satisfied? It's beyond sickness for sure. I really don't mean to lump people (b/c they are still people) into the same batch. I don't know everything. But, like I said, what can the criminal justice system really do for them if the possibility is there that they cannot change?

I am glad they found the girl and the guys who did it. Two of my neices are three and I cannot say what I would do.
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Reply #16 posted 01/05/06 1:13pm

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So so sad. After the baby was raped she was in car crash as the men tried to escape the police.

So what was in the mind of three guys? This was not one isolated freak. Three guys of various ages. Does it earn street credibility? Are they making money out of this?
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Reply #17 posted 01/05/06 1:44pm

susannah

I heard about this. It was in the news headlines and then I turned over the channel. I just cant handle that kind of information, theres no point in putting myself through those emotions for no gain. Kind like what Anx said.

But I couldnt agree with you more Reincarnate, theyd certainly never rape anyone else if they get anywhere near me. The good thing is that the whole nation, or world apparently, feels the same, so it seems theyve fucked up their own lives rather royally. I hope that this extreme incident provides some sort of climax to the seemingly endless paedophilia in this country, and forces the powers that be to increase the penalties. Because at the rate its been going at, they wont be in jail very long. Thats no justice for that poor child who may not make it to womanhood.

I feel for her family, I really do. disbelief
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Reply #18 posted 01/05/06 3:07pm

Reincarnate

This story comes on the back of another one in Britain where a child was taken from her bathtub, abducted for a few hours and then left in an alleyway, naked and crying. A neighbour heard her crying and came to her aid. This happened a couple of weeks ago.

Both that child and this one were taken from inside their homes.

disbelief
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Reply #19 posted 01/05/06 3:33pm

susannah

Absolutely fucking awful. How in the hell does this happen?! Their own homes!!!


I hope they get whats coming to them. disbelief
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Reply #20 posted 01/05/06 3:36pm

Reincarnate

susannah said:

Absolutely fucking awful. How in the hell does this happen?! Their own homes!!!


I hope they get whats coming to them. disbelief

nod me too
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Reply #21 posted 01/05/06 3:45pm

VoicesCarry

If it was my daughter, they would be dead right now.
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Reply #22 posted 01/05/06 3:50pm

susannah

VoicesCarry said:

If it was my daughter, they would be dead right now.


Co-sign

That was the way my Daddy brought me up - "anyone touches you, you tell me and Ill kill em". Id be exactly the same about my own kids, but for now its more, "Anyone touches you, you kill em". shrug
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Reply #23 posted 01/06/06 3:53am

mdiver

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Reply #24 posted 01/06/06 4:07am

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Yeah, a friend told me about this the other day.

Truly fucking sick. disbelief

However, I hear stories like this all the time via my Mom as she works for Social Services.

The bastards need their genitals removed. By a crocodile.
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Reply #25 posted 01/06/06 4:53am

JPW

I am starting to think there are certain instances like this where the death penalty could be just.
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Reply #26 posted 01/06/06 5:39am

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mdiver said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4586464.stm

Update


"Due to the serious nature of the offence and for your own protection you will be remanded in custody."


i think they should let him out and see what happens. nod
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Reply #27 posted 01/06/06 5:43am

susannah

fantasyislander said:

mdiver said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4586464.stm

Update


"Due to the serious nature of the offence and for your own protection you will be remanded in custody."


i think they should let him out and see what happens. nod


Haha yeah I agree!!! What protection does he deserve exactly?
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Reply #28 posted 01/06/06 5:44am

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susannah said:

fantasyislander said:



"Due to the serious nature of the offence and for your own protection you will be remanded in custody."


i think they should let him out and see what happens. nod


Haha yeah I agree!!! What protection does he deserve exactly?



thumbs up! i may fly over just to watch . . .
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Reply #29 posted 01/06/06 7:47am

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Reincarnate said:

Anxiety said:

keep in mind that if you want to kill someone because they committed murder, you let their crime define you. as understandable as it is to react to these stories with strong moral resignation, i think it's important to either learn to rise above or else just keep away from reading those stories to start with.

Yes I agree. I'm very much against capital punishment and against killing any living beings.

However, if that happened to a three year old relative of mine, I don't think I could stop myself from thinking those thoughts.

hug i went through a real struggle with this a few months ago.... we had precious doe here in my area.... you may remember she was a little girl who was found beheaded in a wooded area sad that was hard to hear of in and of itself, but then, when they found out it was the step father and the MOTHER who did it, and how they did it, and why they did it, i wanted them dead on the spot !!!! so, then i was angry that someone so trashy could make me doubt what i personally believe in disbelief

i do not agree with capital punishment, i dont think its up to us as people to decide when someone dies, that to me is up to God.... it wasnt right for them to take that baby girl's life, and its not right for me to say someone else should die.


stay strong girl hug they will get whats comming to them, and they will answer for their doing nod
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