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Reply #90 posted 01/24/06 9:28pm

heartbeatocean

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My dad quit smoking last year after 46 years of smoking. I think he's almost reached his one year mark. He had health problems which scared him. But I think it all finally added up and he simply, finally and conclusively, realized he WANTED to quit. He got some drug that the doctor prescribed for him -- I think it was called Vicadin (?) or something like that, which worked. He quit the first time a couple of years ago, then started again. But he remembered that he HAD quit for a while and that it was possible and then he quit again. He even keeps a carton of cigarettes in the house, just so they're available if he decides to self-destruct. But after watching him smoke my whole life, I can see he's serious, and that's a good thing.
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Reply #91 posted 01/24/06 11:16pm

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heartbeatocean said:

My dad quit smoking last year after 46 years of smoking. I think he's almost reached his one year mark. He had health problems which scared him. But I think it all finally added up and he simply, finally and conclusively, realized he WANTED to quit. He got some drug that the doctor prescribed for him -- I think it was called Vicadin (?) or something like that, which worked. He quit the first time a couple of years ago, then started again. But he remembered that he HAD quit for a while and that it was possible and then he quit again. He even keeps a carton of cigarettes in the house, just so they're available if he decides to self-destruct. But after watching him smoke my whole life, I can see he's serious, and that's a good thing.



Probably Wellbutrin. You don't want dad on Vicodin. no no no!

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a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on
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Reply #92 posted 01/25/06 9:13am

HamsterHuey

People should do what they like, but smokers, in my eyes, are a bit stoopid. I have seen people die of it, people I loved so much I still ache...

Here;

Healthy lung vs smoker's lung

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Reply #93 posted 01/25/06 9:29am

Natisse

HamsterHuey said:

People should do what they like, but smokers, in my eyes, are a bit stoopid. I have seen people die of it, people I loved so much I still ache...

Here;

Healthy lung vs smoker's lung



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Reply #94 posted 01/25/06 9:51am

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Stax said:

heartbeatocean said:

My dad quit smoking last year after 46 years of smoking. I think he's almost reached his one year mark. He had health problems which scared him. But I think it all finally added up and he simply, finally and conclusively, realized he WANTED to quit. He got some drug that the doctor prescribed for him -- I think it was called Vicadin (?) or something like that, which worked. He quit the first time a couple of years ago, then started again. But he remembered that he HAD quit for a while and that it was possible and then he quit again. He even keeps a carton of cigarettes in the house, just so they're available if he decides to self-destruct. But after watching him smoke my whole life, I can see he's serious, and that's a good thing.



Probably Wellbutrin. You don't want dad on Vicodin. no no no!

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Yes, that's it. Wellbutrin. He also takes Vicodin though, I believe, and Lipatur or whatever that is. Why is it so bad? He thinks medications are saving his life, let's doctors be God, and won't listen to me though. At least he stopped smoking. shrug It would be nice if exercised once in a while. shrug
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Reply #95 posted 01/25/06 9:55am

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HamsterHuey said:

People should do what they like, but smokers, in my eyes, are a bit stoopid. I have seen people die of it, people I loved so much I still ache...

Here;

Healthy lung vs smoker's lung



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My great aunt and great uncle are in their mid-70's. One has had triple bypass heart surgury, the other lives at high altitude and depends on an oxygen machine to breathe. Both continue to smoke rather heavily. duh
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Reply #96 posted 01/25/06 9:55am

MIGUELGOMEZ

That's it. I'm buying the Nicorette gum today.



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MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #97 posted 01/25/06 10:13am

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

That's it. I'm buying the Nicorette gum today.



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woot! You can do it!
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Reply #98 posted 01/25/06 11:40am

MIGUELGOMEZ

heartbeatocean said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

That's it. I'm buying the Nicorette gum today.



M


woot! You can do it!




Thank you, I needed that. Woo hooo!!!!!

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MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #99 posted 01/26/06 10:29am

MIGUELGOMEZ

Oh my God. The Nicorette gum really helped last night. I bought the 4mg and should've bought the 2mg. I chewed half. The taste is kinda spicy and not very good but I didn't have one cigarette after that. I usually have 7 or 8 cigarettes after I get home. Last night I finished my pack, there were only 2 left. After that started getting a craving so I had half of the gum and I was fine. Woo hooo!!!!!

M
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #100 posted 01/26/06 8:23pm

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

Oh my God. The Nicorette gum really helped last night. I bought the 4mg and should've bought the 2mg. I chewed half. The taste is kinda spicy and not very good but I didn't have one cigarette after that. I usually have 7 or 8 cigarettes after I get home. Last night I finished my pack, there were only 2 left. After that started getting a craving so I had half of the gum and I was fine. Woo hooo!!!!!

M


woot!
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Reply #101 posted 01/26/06 11:57pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

heartbeatocean said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

Oh my God. The Nicorette gum really helped last night. I bought the 4mg and should've bought the 2mg. I chewed half. The taste is kinda spicy and not very good but I didn't have one cigarette after that. I usually have 7 or 8 cigarettes after I get home. Last night I finished my pack, there were only 2 left. After that started getting a craving so I had half of the gum and I was fine. Woo hooo!!!!!

M


woot!




I'm going to bed. My first day without one single cigarette.


M
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #102 posted 01/27/06 3:01am

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and this isnt a sticky anymore because.....?
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
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Reply #103 posted 01/27/06 7:34am

Mach

More Smokers Successfully Quit On a Whim By Steven Reinberg
HealthDay Reporter




FRIDAY, Jan. 27 (HealthDay News) -- Putting a lot of thought and planning into quitting smoking may not be the best route to success, a new study finds.



In fact, British researchers found that those smokers who spontaneously quit were much more likely to not resume smoking than those who planned a "quit strategy" long in advance.


The findings run contrary to the conventional wisdom on quitting.


"A very large proportion, probably about half, of attempts to stop smoking are made without any pre-planning at all," said lead researcher Robert West, a professor of health psychology at University College London. "People just suddenly decide to quit and do it."


Not only do about 50 percent of quitters decide to quit suddenly, but they are more successful at quitting, West added.


"Perhaps more surprisingly, we found that these spur-of-the-moment quit attempts more likely to be successful," he said. "This goes very much against received wisdom which says that people usually plan their quit attempts and that planning is important for success."


The report appears in the Jan. 26 online edition of the British Medical Journal.


In their research, West and colleague Taj Sohal collected data on 918 smokers who reported having made at least one attempt to quit, and compared that data to the experiences of 996 successful ex-smokers.


West and Sohal found that 48.6 percent of smokers said that their most recent attempt to quit happened immediately after they made the decision to quit. Moreover, these unplanned quit attempts were more likely to succeed for at least six months. In fact, the odds of successfully quitting were 2.6 times higher in unplanned attempts than in planned attempts, the researchers found.


"This does not mean, of course, that people should not plan quit attempts," West said. "We think it means that there is something different about the state of mind of someone who says 'That's it -- I've had enough, and I'm stopping smoking right now' and someone who says 'I've decided to stop smoking and it will be after I finish the packet tomorrow/next week/or whatever,'" he said.


Stopping smoking suddenly may reflect a more complete intellectual switch -- the kind of shift that can turn a smoker into a nonsmoker, West said. "The triggers that cause this kind of shift can be very small -- having a cold, something someone says, or even a storm outside when one's run out of cigarettes."


This kind of switch can also be thought of in what scientists call "catastrophe theory," West said.


"Hidden tensions build up in the system and then a trigger, which might be quite small, unpredictably generates a catastrophic shift -- rather like what happens with earthquakes," he said.


If their theory is right, the researchers added, then public health programs to promote smoking cessation might want to adopt what the researchers are calling "The Three Ts" model.


"Create motivational tension in smokers -- making them feel dissatisfied with being smokers, rather than just believing that smoking is bad for them; populate the world of the smoker with triggers to action -- get those people who are on the cusp to take action. And be ready with immediate treatment for smokers who have just stopped, as well as those that planned their quit attempt in advance," West said.


One expert thinks differences among smokers are very personal and may reflect levels of addiction.


"I think the authors' insight is correct," said Saul Shiffman, a professor of psychology at the University of Pittsburgh. "Often people are thinking about quitting and something, apparently sudden, can push them over the edge into quitting."


Shiffman believes that when a singular event occurs, you have an instant motivator, which can have a positive role in success. "At the same time, it may be that the people who quit spontaneously are the ones who are less dependent to begin with and have an easier time quitting, and that's why they are more successful," he said.

Those who has had multiple attempts to quit are the ones who have had a lot of difficulty, Shiffman said. "Those may be the ones, with very good reason, who are more likely to plan," he said.

Shiffman was careful to say that while quitting spontaneously might work for some, planning has its place, too.

"Certain kinds of planning are not only good, but necessary. We know the use of treatment like nicotine replacement is helpful; we know that getting behavioral help is useful. So clearly, one should not take this as 'don't bother planning anything, don't bother arranging help, just quit on a whim.' One really should get that help," he said.

The study coincides with an article in the Jan. 28 British Medical Journal that claims tobacco giant British American Tobacco (BAT) promoted the use of air filtration devices to restaurants and bars -- even though it knew they are only 34 percent effective in reducing levels of secondhand smoke.

In the article, former BAT scientist Nigel Warren said the company's primary interest in promoting the devices was "to negate the need for smoking bans around the world."

More information

Get more tips on quitting smoking at the American Cancer Society.
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Reply #104 posted 01/27/06 7:23pm

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

heartbeatocean said:



woot!




I'm going to bed. My first day without one single cigarette.


M


yay!
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Reply #105 posted 01/27/06 11:17pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

heartbeatocean said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:





I'm going to bed. My first day without one single cigarette.


M


yay!



Second day no cigarettes. Wooohooo!!!!


M
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #106 posted 01/28/06 2:57am

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

heartbeatocean said:



yay!



Second day no cigarettes. Wooohooo!!!!


M



woot!
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Reply #107 posted 01/28/06 5:33am

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REDFEATHERS said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:




Second day no cigarettes. Wooohooo!!!!


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woot!



bananadance
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Reply #108 posted 01/28/06 11:24am

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AndGodCreatedMe said:

REDFEATHERS said:




woot!



bananadance



Thanks baby!!!! That bannana emoticon makes me laugh uncontrolably.


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Reply #109 posted 01/28/06 3:01pm

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REDFEATHERS said:

But at college I was so anti smoking.. you wouldnt believe the excuse I made when I started!!!


Now I'm curious. I don't smoke (and I wish you luck in your quest to quit), but most of the people I know that smoke started in high school. They wanted to appear cool and more mature. Twisted logic, but it's understandable; they were only teens.

It sounds as though you had not yet started smoking when you were in college. What prompted you to pick up the habit at that point? It would seem to me that by that point, the 'coolness' aspect of it would be less of a draw; after all, you were already an adult.

Not a flame or put-down, just an innocent question...in fact, perhaps I should pose this question to all the smokers in this thread who have not already answered it. What motivated you to start smoking, and at what age did you start?

To all of you who have quit or are in the process of quitting, much respect -- YOU CAN DO IT! My parents quit smoking too, so I know how difficult it can be. It's been over 25 years, and they're still going strong. It's a good thing they quit too -- my father has since contracted emphysema, and my mother is now an asthmatic. If they had continued to smoke, it's very likely that neither of them would be alive today.
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