at one point does one cross the line.....


M

Everyone is conceited.

Number23 said:

I don't think you are.


M

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

Why is that?

Number23 said:

I don't know, you seem like a nice person. Even after you cut your hair you didn't brag about how good you looked.

M

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

Man, that's funny to me, truly, in so many ways, ugh. Thank you, though. We should meet when i come to SF in February, Miguel. Back to the point, I don't view conceit as a negative aspect of the human condition, more a coat we wear to protect ourselves. I've never met a conceited child, it's something learned, like embarassment. Actors can't do embarassment. And the irony is, to me, that everyone is actor to some degree who plays life like chess. It's unavoidable. Dylan's Disease Of Conceit is a great lyric. So is nick Cave's People Ain't No Good. Hilarious and scary, like all good things.

Number23 said:

Actually, Andie MacDowell was widely praised for her realistic blushing in sex, lies and videotape and the director said she could do it on cue.


I quite like a lot of Dylan's later work but was never crazy about that one.


That one I think is good.

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

Actually, I don't think the two necessarily have to be related. You can be a very assertive person and still be quite a humble one.

Aren't they two completely different things? I'm never assertive but nearly always conceited.

Anybody who blows their own horn about anything is conceited.

I think the better worded question would be:
"When do you cross the line between confident or arrogant?"
Arrogance is a trait that I can NOT FUCKING STAND. If you want to turn me off and turn me away, display some arrogance. And the funny thing with arrogance is that most arrogant bastards are insecure deep down in the depths of their pathetic souls.

Spats said:

I agree, dickhead.

I am probably the LEAST conceited person you will ever meet.

jerseykrs said:

And with the LEAST cause no doubt.

oh yeah, I'm conceited.....


come over here, Spats.....

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

Well wouldn't Assertive cross with Agression and Conceited cross with Confident in this analogy/metaphor?

Spats said:

i'm vain as hell. I can't walk past a reflective surface.

DynamicSavior said:

DexMSR said:

You're right. I got my metaphors and analogies all screwed up. I went to college, I swear!

This thread was started because of someone on the org that toots his/her own horn, hardcore. Some people can say that this person is very sure about themselves and very assertive, others think he/she is downright conceited.

That is all.

M

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

i always thought those were two different things. i guess just speaking up for yourself is fine but doing to the point where your doing it for attention or to constantly show how 'good' you are or whatever then thats when it gets to be concieted-i think for the record i'm neither, i only get assertive when it comes to my kids.

Assertive or Conceited

Assertive is when it is based in truth and fact

Conceited is when it is based on illusion and ego