I can't say I hate Christmas. Infact i adore it cause everyone i know is in some sort of festive mood- despite any crap goin on around em!

HOWEVER- there are some thingz around Christmas time that get me down! Like hearing carols at work. I feel sad. And also- because (since i was a kid) place alotta importance on this time of year and what it MEANS to me...i tend to be a perfectionist in how it should be and how i should feel on the day- and it doesnt allllways work out that way and that inturn suckz

Commercialism is just rubbish. And because i work in retail- and have for some yearz now- Im well and truly over it!!

onenitealone said:

definately talk to you on the day if not before

rachel3 said:

:claps:

fuck people

It's true... people are so fake this time of year.Cause its tis the motherfucking season or something they start feeding homeless people... doing good deeds whacking off in the closet instead of the open. It dont mean a thing motherfucker I still know you're a wasteless peice of crap every other day of the year so you aint impressing me.

StaticDeth said:

That'z so true If they gonna be all hospitable- why not take it up as a lifestyle instead of just choosing Christmas to display it. Displaying it in oppose to humbly doin their business without recieving any recognition ofcourse

I have hated Xmas ever since my grandmother died which was about 10 years ago now. It was one of my favorite holidays to spend with her, and I guess I just miss her more during this time of year.
Last year, though, it wasn't quite so bad. And this year, I'm actually kinda looking forward to it. I may have finally gotten over my hatred of the holiday. Which is a good thing, I suppose. Nobody likes a grinch. :tease2:

my best christmas in recent memory was when i lived in new york and decided to stay in the city instead of going to my mom's in indiana for the holiday.

i just walked around in the village and enjoyed the streets being relatively deserted...i remember there was even a wrecka stow open, so i went CD shopping on christmas day! i went to my favorite vegetarian restaurant for lunch, then i went out for a drink later on that night.

i don't know if i'd want to spend christmas that way EVERY year, but i can tell you now i didn't have one awkward, uncomfortable or sad moment that christmas.

Yes i hate Christmas, means a new year is coming which means a year closer to death

saintsation said:

"Joy To The World..."

I figure, who knows what my christmases are gonna be like when I'm old, and my parents and other family members, and our dogs, have passed on. Might as well try to enjoy it as much now while we're all still together. I don't wanna look back and kick myself for not appreciating it when I could.

I do love giving gifts to people, even if I spend too much. I don't really care if someone gets me gifts or not, but I do get pissed when people give me gift certificates. It just makes me feel like they know nothing about me, or didn't want to put much time or thought into it, but just felt obligated to give me something.

It's kinda wierd nowdays, because my parents are getting too old to go to the malls and all that fuss so they usually just give us money. It's my sister and brother and I that go out and do almost all of the shopping to put a bunch of gifts around the tree, while they just relax lol.

Wha wha wha. Cry me a fkn river! The holidays aren't going away so why not just try to enjoy them?

CarrieLee said:

come spend a christmas with my family.

abierman said:

Ahh, thanks. I leave tomorrow--if I can make it to the airport (Transit strike in NYC.)

Anxiety said:

If my family were that miserable on Christmas I would spend it with my friends instead.

I've always tolerated the holidays the same way I tolerate disobedient children in the grocery store. I just shrug my shoulders and roll on....

eleven said:

And I like you too.

CarrieLee said:

come call my family and tell em i won't be going home.


i guess my point is, it's easy to spout that "don't worry be happy" stuff based on your own circumstances...but you shouldn't assume everyone has the same life as you.

please stop, you guys are draining my christmas spirit

Anxiety said:

I wasn't assuming anything. Sorry for trying to look on the brighter side of things.

jthad1129 said:

That's sweet, jt.

I guess I should expound a little more.

Xmas is supposed to be about the birth of Christ and giving and peace and love and all that other good stuff. Now, if you say Merry Xmas, some people think you are excluding them or insulting their religion. Enough of the PC crap, IT"S JESUS" FREAKIN' BIRTHDAY! It's so stupid to not acknowledge HIM. I also hate it because most people treat each other like shit the other 364 days a year and now you want to be nice to people? Let's get the day over with so you all can go back to hating each other'freakin' guts. It's all so fake.

I usually get depressed this time of year: I miss my mom. She was the holiday person from decorating the tree to getting a house full of people over. Now, you'll never find more than three or four people at a time at my grnadmother's for the holidays. Most everyone is not speaking to each other over what one of our family members did and it all breaks my heart.

More than anything, I miss my nephew. I lost part of my soul when he passed away. It was a joy shopping for him. He was such an unselfish, wonderful person.

brownsugar said:

I don't mean to. I am so jealous of people who love the holiday season.

CarrieLee said:

well, looking on the brighter side of things is one thing, but denying or invalidating the reality of those who may not have a lot to look forward to is quite another. ok, sure, see the stocking as half full instead of half empty. great. but to a lot of us, christmas is a time of obligation, it's a time where we have to be around people we don't want to be around, it's a time that reminds us of people who aren't around anymore that we'd LOVE to be with. i'll be "making the best of it" this year, but it doesn't mean i'm going to have a great holiday. sometimes it's best just to make peace with that fact instead of trying to delude myself into thinking it won't be that bad or "oh, maybe i can make it like the good ol' days". ain't gonna happen. sometimes, it's good just to know other people aren't exactly living in a winter wonderland either. if you find that distasteful, perhaps you could instead post on any number of "happy happy joy joy - it's christmas!" threads here on the org...or start one of your own!

Anxiety said:

I swear we are twins separated at birth.

Stymie said:

humbugs separated at birth

i guess since we've had so many fun days this year that we enjoyed our way, it's only fair that we suffer through a few days guaranteed to make us miserable for the sake of others. karmic balance and all that.

Anxiety said:

I had a really great Xmas last year. I got to see Charlie Brown Christmas and exchange gifts with someone who means a whole lot to me. Thank you, Chris.

Stymie said:

THAT was awesome...that was close to what i wish christmas would be like. i wish we coulda done something like that this year.

Anxiety said:

If you FAKE-HATERS were for real, you'd be posting on the OFFICIAL thread which is already at Chapter Two...



... http://www.prince.org/msg/100/171423


tAC (aka theAntiClaus)

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431
[Edited 12/20/05 11:31am]

Anxiety said:

I respect where you're coming from but my point wasn't "don't worry be happy" nor was it "I know what you are going through in your life and you should do it my way".

My point was things are what you make them and I hope everyone fights the obvious way and that's bitterness and sadness, it's hard but that's why I think it must be done. I'm not talking about being fake (I don't have a fake bone in my body) but just making an effort to take the abomination that this holiday has become and focus on ANYTHING that makes you a little less sad.

Slave2daGroove said:

Thank you.

don't make me get ugly