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Reply #30 posted 12/19/05 1:47pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

TheCatWoman said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I don't like Xmas. There are very many reasons. One is that I'm usually broke and I feel bad that I can't give everybody what they want.



M



And on a serious note: . This is not what Jesus would want his day of birth do be celebrated as; An "obligation" .. Really! You have no reason to feel bad, don't believe in the hype. The material word! Just aknowledging his life and sharing your beliefs of and for him is a gift in itself. smile



Thanks sweety. That is why I love Thanksgiving more.(I don't like any of the historical stuff). I get together with my family and have a great time just watching movies and eating.

M
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Reply #31 posted 12/19/05 1:50pm

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I don't like Xmas. There are very many reasons. One is that I'm usually broke and I feel bad that I can't give everybody what they want. Another is that recently, a lot of people that were in my life are not anymore.



M


How could someone like YOU say something like THAT?

Your gift to me ranked above the greatest. Your presence was worth gold. Thank you for being what its all about to me.

I mean to say, your literal present was of the highest value as well as was your physical presence!
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Reply #32 posted 12/19/05 1:53pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I don't like Xmas. There are very many reasons. One is that I'm usually broke and I feel bad that I can't give everybody what they want. Another is that recently, a lot of people that were in my life are not anymore.



M


How could someone like YOU say something like THAT?

Your gift to me ranked above the greatest. Your presence was worth gold. Thank you for being what its all about to me.



Yeah, but you see my gift didn't cost too much. It just required love and cooperation from so many lovely people. THAT is what Birthday and Christmas giving is about. On my Birthday or Christmas I honestly love just to be around all the people that mean a lot to me. I always tell everybody, NO PRESENTS, JUST PRESENCE. They don't believe I mean it.

I love ya sweety. Thank you for your kind words.

M
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Reply #33 posted 12/19/05 1:56pm

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There are moments where it bothers me, but I try to be a good sport.

same here. ever since my dad passed away 4 years ago, christmas has been nothing to me but just another day. I don't wake up excited anymore, and the only thing i look forward to is using the gifts that i already know about that are underneath the tree. I even find putting up the christmas decorations exhausting....now i know how my parents use to feel when i use to bug them as a kid "when are we putting the tree up??".....

Most of the time Christmas makes me want to cry.... sad
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Reply #34 posted 12/19/05 1:57pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

missfee said:

dreamfactory313 said:

There are moments where it bothers me, but I try to be a good sport.

same here. ever since my dad passed away 4 years ago, christmas has been nothing to me but just another day. I don't wake up excited anymore, and the only thing i look forward to is using the gifts that i already know about that are underneath the tree. I even find putting up the christmas decorations exhausting....now i know how my parents use to feel when i use to bug them as a kid "when are we putting the tree up??".....

Most of the time Christmas makes me want to cry.... sad



You know what? I think you and I should start some kind of new tradition for ourselves. The sillyer the better.

M
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Reply #35 posted 12/19/05 2:01pm

amorbella

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I cant stand xmas...
Xmas is about family, friends, love, religion....

These days, its about what you plan to buy and how much money your gonna spend....
I cant wait till its over....
Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize
u simply imagined this
So u lean over and give her a kiss
Here on earth, here on earth,
with u it's not so bad
Here on earth, here on earth
eye don't feel so sad
Stay right here
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Reply #36 posted 12/19/05 2:31pm

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

missfee said:


same here. ever since my dad passed away 4 years ago, christmas has been nothing to me but just another day. I don't wake up excited anymore, and the only thing i look forward to is using the gifts that i already know about that are underneath the tree. I even find putting up the christmas decorations exhausting....now i know how my parents use to feel when i use to bug them as a kid "when are we putting the tree up??".....

Most of the time Christmas makes me want to cry.... sad



You know what? I think you and I should start some kind of new tradition for ourselves. The sillyer the better.

M

yeah, like whenever someone asks for eggnog, throw some eggs at them instead. Or, if someone puts on those sad slow christmas songs, switch the song to an Audioslave song where Chris Cornell is screeching to the top of his lungs, and turn it up really loud, then disappear....
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Reply #37 posted 12/19/05 2:43pm

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Damn I can't wait for it to be over.


HELL YES. I really don't know when it all started for me, but December 26th is my favorite day of the year cuz all the shit is over

I knew there was a reason I liked you! razz

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Reply #38 posted 12/19/05 2:47pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

missfee said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:




You know what? I think you and I should start some kind of new tradition for ourselves. The sillyer the better.

M

yeah, like whenever someone asks for eggnog, throw some eggs at them instead. Or, if someone puts on those sad slow christmas songs, switch the song to an Audioslave song where Chris Cornell is screeching to the top of his lungs, and turn it up really loud, then disappear....




You're my kinda girl!!!!headbang
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Reply #39 posted 12/19/05 2:51pm

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

missfee said:


same here. ever since my dad passed away 4 years ago, christmas has been nothing to me but just another day. I don't wake up excited anymore, and the only thing i look forward to is using the gifts that i already know about that are underneath the tree. I even find putting up the christmas decorations exhausting....now i know how my parents use to feel when i use to bug them as a kid "when are we putting the tree up??".....

Most of the time Christmas makes me want to cry.... sad



You know what? I think you and I should start some kind of new tradition for ourselves. The sillyer the better.

M


FESTIVUS!
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Reply #40 posted 12/19/05 2:57pm

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Stymie said:

rachel3 said:

Holiday hater here!!!!! They start the shit so early and just keep going with it!!!!! Bitch ass co-workers who act a fool all year long want to be in your face, FUCK THAT SHIT!!!!! I am not playing Secret Santa and I wont be going to Christmas service at church with you either!!!!!


I so didn't want to go to the company Xmas party. Just another damn excuse for people to get drunk and play like they give a fuck about you when they ignore your ass all year long. Get tha fuck away from me. mad


At least you GET alcohol at your company party. We had to have a POTLUCK. What the fuck is that? You're gonna MAKE me bring my own food to a "party"!?! I loathe forced fraternization with co-workers. sigh
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Reply #41 posted 12/19/05 2:57pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

cborgman said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:




You know what? I think you and I should start some kind of new tradition for ourselves. The sillyer the better.

M


FESTIVUS!




falloff I'll get the Festivus Pole.....


M
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Reply #42 posted 12/19/05 3:00pm

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

cborgman said:



FESTIVUS!




falloff I'll get the Festivus Pole.....


M



that sounds dirty... batting eyes

oh... oh.
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Reply #43 posted 12/19/05 3:10pm

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abierman said:

Christmas doesn't work for me since 10 years or so.....My family consists out of extreme opposite & strong characters. When we're together for those days, it always ends up in some clash, most of the times resulting to a fight. And really, being the only one who hasn't settled yet for wife & kids, makes it a bit harder. Sometimes they see me as a freak without a clue, don't understand (or simply aren't interested in my life.....

Therefore, recently I always see that I'm on some trip, with friends.....


I feel ya. All my family (immediate and cousins) still live within 40 miles of the farm where I grew up. I live in NYC. Most of them never went to college, I have an MA. They work at local bars and nursing homes. My background is in contemporary art history. They like country music, WWF and the NRA; I dig Prince, protested the war in Iraq & and the Republican National Convention. They all have at least one kid and most are married. I have no kids or husband.

Being around them is just mostly uncomfortable. When it comes time for the family get together I just sit quietly on the couch by myself until I can leave... I also have to be careful not to talk too much about life in NYC...what is normal for me can easily be perceived as "bragging" where I grew up.
At least you are lucky you can hang with friends. My parents would be furious if I didn't go back for xmas...

sigh I hate the holidays.
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #44 posted 12/19/05 3:52pm

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I don't hate it so much, but I will say people in NYC are acting kinda crazy this week. Lots of weird shoving and irritability in the streets. There's a definite frantic edge in the air, and the potential strike isn't helping.

Then again, I should've known better then trying to wrap up my shopping at Virgin in Times Square today confused

It all gets nicer on the actual day, with friends over, a roast in the oven and wine bottles open!
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Reply #45 posted 12/19/05 3:58pm

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I usually love the holidays...everything about it.. the shopping..holiday music..decorating the house the tree...hot coco and cookies...everything!
But not this year..since I'm not able to do what I want to for my loved ones pout
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Reply #46 posted 12/19/05 4:15pm

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Sounds like you had a bad childhood neutral

I will gladly send you a Christmas present if it will make you happy and pick your spirits up.
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Reply #47 posted 12/19/05 4:17pm

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Stymie said:

rachel3 said:

Holiday hater here!!!!! They start the shit so early and just keep going with it!!!!! Bitch ass co-workers who act a fool all year long want to be in your face, FUCK THAT SHIT!!!!! I am not playing Secret Santa and I wont be going to Christmas service at church with you either!!!!!
I so didn't want to go to the company Xmas party. Just another damn excuse for people to get drunk and play like they give a fuck about you when they ignore your ass all year long. Get tha fuck away from me. mad

oh god, same here. my office just had our holiday party about a week and a half ago. we went to this super-expensive restaurant nearby our office--i didn't wanna go because of that. plus the majority of the people who i work with don't really care too much about me as it is. i sat at that fuckin party, pissed off as fuck.
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Reply #48 posted 12/19/05 4:20pm

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This thread is some sad shit.

Stymie, here's a real one hug

This is for the rest of you sad people. grouphug

The holidays suck when your single and I can relate to everything here but it becomes about perspective when things seem to be aligned against you.

My perspective is no, I don't have anything in common with family and work holiday parties but I'm going and making it my own by laughing and talking about topics that don't matter. No deep political crap or members of the family gossip, just tv, movies, stuff that don't matter. Get some games going (cards, usually) and just try to make the most of the situation. Calling people I haven't talked to in forever, playing with little kids (relatives), eating too much and cooking fattening things, see where I'm going with this? It's what YOU make it and if you make it a drag it definitely will be but chose the other, you won't see most of these people until next year lol
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Reply #49 posted 12/19/05 4:25pm

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seems like a lot of bad things happen around this time, etc. find out somebody has cancer or any other terminal illness, something unexpected happens, car accident, homicide, suicide.... just a scary time of the year for me.
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Reply #50 posted 12/19/05 5:21pm

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rachel3 said:

Holiday hater here!!!!! They start the shit so early and just keep going with it!!!!! Bitch ass co-workers who act a fool all year long want to be in your face, FUCK THAT SHIT!!!!! I am not playing Secret Santa and I wont be going to Christmas service at church with you either!!!!!


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Reply #51 posted 12/19/05 5:25pm

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missfee said:

dreamfactory313 said:

There are moments where it bothers me, but I try to be a good sport.

same here. ever since my dad passed away 4 years ago, christmas has been nothing to me but just another day. I don't wake up excited anymore, and the only thing i look forward to is using the gifts that i already know about that are underneath the tree. I even find putting up the christmas decorations exhausting....now i know how my parents use to feel when i use to bug them as a kid "when are we putting the tree up??".....

Most of the time Christmas makes me want to cry.... sad


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Reply #52 posted 12/19/05 5:28pm

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No what i remember about Christmas day?...being taken by ambulance to hospital and having a tube shoved down my throat as i had a bowel obstruction. While i sat in bed watching other patients eating christmas day food and patient's families giving prezzies.
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Reply #53 posted 12/19/05 5:30pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Stymie said:

I so didn't want to go to the company Xmas party. Just another damn excuse for people to get drunk and play like they give a fuck about you when they ignore your ass all year long. Get tha fuck away from me. mad

oh god, same here. my office just had our holiday party about a week and a half ago. we went to this super-expensive restaurant nearby our office--i didn't wanna go because of that. plus the majority of the people who i work with don't really care too much about me as it is. i sat at that fuckin party, pissed off as fuck.


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Reply #54 posted 12/20/05 12:48am

abierman

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abierman said:

Christmas doesn't work for me since 10 years or so.....My family consists out of extreme opposite & strong characters. When we're together for those days, it always ends up in some clash, most of the times resulting to a fight. And really, being the only one who hasn't settled yet for wife & kids, makes it a bit harder. Sometimes they see me as a freak without a clue, don't understand (or simply aren't interested in my life.....

Therefore, recently I always see that I'm on some trip, with friends.....


I feel ya. All my family (immediate and cousins) still live within 40 miles of the farm where I grew up. I live in NYC. Most of them never went to college, I have an MA. They work at local bars and nursing homes. My background is in contemporary art history. They like country music, WWF and the NRA; I dig Prince, protested the war in Iraq & and the Republican National Convention. They all have at least one kid and most are married. I have no kids or husband.

Being around them is just mostly uncomfortable. When it comes time for the family get together I just sit quietly on the couch by myself until I can leave... I also have to be careful not to talk too much about life in NYC...what is normal for me can easily be perceived as "bragging" where I grew up.
At least you are lucky you can hang with friends. My parents would be furious if I didn't go back for xmas...

sigh I hate the holidays.



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keep your head up!!!
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Reply #55 posted 12/20/05 2:17am

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Big hugs to all the Scrooges here. hug

Sorry, just kidding. smile I know where you're coming from. For years, I hated Christmas. I don't speak to my family and - whilst everyone I know was bonding with their folks - I was stuck in my parents' house, in my room, waiting for my Christmas dinner like someone on parole. confused So it wasn't as if I was spending quality time with them. And where I grew up is a small town, with small-town attitudes, and bugger all to do at any time, let alone when everything shuts down at Christmas. Yippee.

So I made the decision not to go anymore. It was becoming ludicrous. In the end, I was just going home because (a) I thought it was expected and (b) I love Christmas dinner. lol Just less hassle all round if I didn't go.

So, for the last couple of years, I've spent it with housemates and they've been the best two Christmasses I've had in years. Being around people you actually care about, sharing it with those you love - that's what it's all about. It was nice to have the reminder.

As Miguel says perfectly - it's about presence, not presents.

This year, I'm likely to be spending Christmas Day by myself. A mate will be staying over from the night before - we'll have breakfast, open some presents - then she'll go to her parents. I'll cook myself a lovely roast dinner, I'll have some wine in the fridge, loads of chocolate to hand and I'll be glued to the television. People may pop in, people may not. I may end up going out in the night, I may not. But it's just one day in an entire year - nothing to get worked up about. And, for me, the big one will be on Boxing Day when, traditionally, we all go out for a friend's birthday. Plus, he's 30 this year so that should be a blast. wink

So to those who are alone this Christmas, or face it with dread, you're not alone. Someone will be thinking of you on Christmas Day. hug

And to those who celebrate or are looking forward to Christmas - I wish you and yours a very happy holiday. hug

Much love and a Happy Christmas to everyone. xxxx
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Reply #56 posted 12/20/05 2:23am

Natisse

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Big hugs to all the Scrooges here. hug

Sorry, just kidding. smile I know where you're coming from. For years, I hated Christmas. I don't speak to my family and - whilst everyone I know was bonding with their folks - I was stuck in my parents' house, in my room, waiting for my Christmas dinner like someone on parole. confused So it wasn't as if I was spending quality time with them. And where I grew up is a small town, with small-town attitudes, and bugger all to do at any time, let alone when everything shuts down at Christmas. Yippee.

So I made the decision not to go anymore. It was becoming ludicrous. In the end, I was just going home because (a) I thought it was expected and (b) I love Christmas dinner. lol Just less hassle all round if I didn't go.

So, for the last couple of years, I've spent it with housemates and they've been the best two Christmasses I've had in years. Being around people you actually care about, sharing it with those you love - that's what it's all about. It was nice to have the reminder.

As Miguel says perfectly - it's about presence, not presents.

This year, I'm likely to be spending Christmas Day by myself. A mate will be staying over from the night before - we'll have breakfast, open some presents - then she'll go to her parents. I'll cook myself a lovely roast dinner, I'll have some wine in the fridge, loads of chocolate to hand and I'll be glued to the television. People may pop in, people may not. I may end up going out in the night, I may not. But it's just one day in an entire year - nothing to get worked up about. And, for me, the big one will be on Boxing Day when, traditionally, we all go out for a friend's birthday. Plus, he's 30 this year so that should be a blast. wink

So to those who are alone this Christmas, or face it with dread, you're not alone. Someone will be thinking of you on Christmas Day. hug

And to those who celebrate or are looking forward to Christmas - I wish you and yours a very happy holiday. hug

Much love and a Happy Christmas to everyone. xxxx


I don't want you to spend Christmas alone cry

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Reply #57 posted 12/20/05 2:37am

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I don't hate Christmas,but I'll be glad when it's all over.I get sick of hearing Christmas songs everywhere I go...I am sick of crowded shopping malls and long lines at the Post Office...I can't wait until January!

Actually,this Christmas will be special for me.I'll be in Atlanta,which will be a nice change of scenery for me.
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Reply #58 posted 12/20/05 2:37am

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Natisse said:

I don't want you to spend Christmas alone cry

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Awwwww! hug Thank you, hun. touched But, seriously, I'll be okay. People are very kind and offer invites every year but I'd rather not impose. I'm a tough cookie, anyway. smile

And, besides - if you're free to speak on the day - you'll definitely get a Christmas kiss from me. kiss2 So I won't be 'alone', will I? wink

I owe you a phone call, by the way! (Sorry, been meaning to call). Got lots to tell you! I'll try and call this evening.

Thank you sweetheart. hug
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Reply #59 posted 12/20/05 3:07am

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MickG said:

Why?



Mainly the commercialism. Folks seem to get hypnotized into believing that they must buy, buy, buy.


My kids are ingrates that have never bought me a Xmas present.

The fact that you can't say Merry Xmas on a television commercial or on the news without someone getting offended by it.

I never get what I want for Xmas. Ever. neutral

Shall I go on? lol


Then don't raise any expectations about Xmas yourself. DOn't ask for anything.

Don't play the radio, play your OWN music.

Don't watch television, rent dvd's

So many easy ways to get around the so-called Xmas spirit.

I just enjoy the lights, try to ignore Xmas music in stores and avoid them on obvious shopping days, when the hordes ride out to shop.

That aint what the feast of light is all about.
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