Spats said:

you should know the answer to this by now. i ain't even gotta tell you.

Spats said:

Your dreams are fucked-up and, even if they weren't, you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who feels you deserve their realization.

You just can't see it, man, but you're a bitter misogynist who won't find anything resembling happiness until you can shake-off your deep cynicism about women and take a chance again. You fancy yourself some kind of playa who's gonna outplay 'em all, but the only one getting played is yourself.
[Edited 12/19/05 9:01am]

My dreams are not f**ked up. I just want a pretty woman who is nice and has her shit together. There is nothing warped about that.

What do you mean take a chance again?

I'm not sure what I'm doing yet. I need to explore my options.

Spats said:

yes they are.


not at all...however, the way you go about wanting a pretty woman IS indeed warped.


this is a no-brainer here.

I am taking a chance everytime i go out to the clubs looking for a babe. What is so warped about wanting the woman to do the approaching?

Spats said:

no, you don't.

the fact that you actually gotta go after whatever it is in life that you want, as opposed to just sitting on yer ass and waiting for it to just fall into your lap.

Spats said:

Nothing at all it is about time that happened

Spats said:

You'll never get a woman who has her shit together until you get your shit together.


Here's another problem right here. Your chances of finding a quality relationship in this environment are slim.

bemine said:

I will likely be at First Ave too, Dansa!



I hope they continue the tradition they've had the last few years of Princey-nite in the VIP room.

i don't have a clue

CarrieMpls said:

woo-hooooo!!!!!


me too, that shit's fun. then again, i dunno...there's a prince party that'll be going on the night before.

So it's alright for the woman to sit an let the man do the approaching but it's warped if i do it?

The clubs are unfortunately the best place to find pretty women. They are not hanging out at libraries, supermarkets and coffee shops.

Speaking of coffee shops. At the coffee shop I go to there is a girl there that goes out of her way to talk to me. Not just the normal nice talk that they have to do. I mean she stops over and talks to me when i am sitting having my hot choclate. One of my buddies says it's obvious she likes me and is interested. But, She is pretty damn plain. That is the luck i am having right right now. If there was a god then the pretty blonde would be all over me like that. Things are just off the mark right now. That's how things have been going for me lately.

Spats said:

it's warped either way.


sure they are, just like you say here:


fuck "plain", man, you better get that woman if she's actually giving you the time of day! i don't wanna hear jackshit about you not having a woman all of next year and all the "shoulda-coulda-woulda" crap if you turn down this chick, either. go for it!

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Yeah, and I'll likely be there too. Miss Paris is awesome! I don't know why I never figured that out before.

But the last few years it's been PopTop in the VIP (I think, I don't remember bout last year, but it was him the last few years I think) and he used to do the Prince nights in the VIP room way back in the day on Tuesdays, back when I could still go out on weeknights and function at work the next day. He's fun, and a really nice guy.

Cold champagne and hot hotties.

Spats said:

Clubs are the worst place to meet someone. And, yes, you're right: these women who hang-out in bars don't go anywhere else. They sleep all day in these establishments until it is time to party again!

CarrieMpls said:

i think poptop played last year, if i remember right... i might have to go to the prince party the night before, too. damn, next weekend's gonna kick ass!

Probably nothing!

sag10 said:

i maybe chillin' with my lil 3 homies since it's christmas break.

So i should try and hook up with her even if she is plain, not what i look for and does not turn me on? I don't get that.

Spats said:

If I came and plucked your eyes out so that you were blind, what would you then use to pick out girlfriends?

My buddies have the same taste in women that i have for the most part. They would point out the babes from the plain janes. They would tell me who to stay away from.

Spats said:

what are these women for? You seem smart enough, do you really need an attactive girl on your arm to bloat your ego?

Spats said:

sometimes great things come in those we do not want or look for. When we finally do get the superficial people (pretty, sexy, skinny, glamourous) they usually have empty souls, and aren't very nice people.

why don't you take a chance on the plain chick, what do you have to lose?

i mean i use to be superficial, i had to have the guy at least 6 ft. tall, nice skin, a great job, deep sexy voice and a nice car. But all i kept finding were all these guys who were below these standards, it was always something wrong or off about them. Then i met my current boyfriend, and i sought of liked him when i met him but i never wanted to actually go out with him because he was short, and he didn't have a deep sexy voice just a regular one. I even pushed him away and we didn't talk for a long time, but somehow we found our way back to each other and were really good friends. I had to look past that other shit that didn't matter and look at how great we connected. And now we are in love and the best friends all in one. If i had never put my superficial feelings to the side, i would still be single now, whining about how they aren't any guys out here that meet my standards.

but you have to figure this out for yourself, when you are ready....
[Edited 12/19/05 10:51am]

I don't know, my point is this.


Every "Beauty" without the glitz, glam, and dollydressup are Plan.

missfee said:

Spats is the farthest thing from "ready" there is. His basic philosophy goes like this:

1. Play games in the desperate hope that a blonde with big boobs who is physically more attractive than you will fall for your hard-to-get routine. This person's intellect and personality are relatively unimportant (except she must have the morals and etiquette of a 1950s nun, which - of course - you find all the time in the nightclub scene ).

2. Involve them in "sacktime" that does not include oral sex in any way, shape or form.

3. Compatibility is unimportant, as it's all about the exterior package and - when that fades - you move on to the next blonde with big boobs who is physically more attractive than you who will fall for your hard-to-get routine.

Sounds like a perfect plan to me.
[Edited 12/19/05 11:12am]

I don't want a pretty woman for my ego. It's what i am physcially attracted to. Everybody has types they are attracted to. I don't see how i could possiby hook up with someone if i didn't find them physically attractive. If any of you can then you are a miracle.

What do i have to lose by hooking up with this plain girl? I don't know, my self respect? The standards i have? My will to live?

What is wrong with playing hard to get? Women do it all the time and nobody seems to have a problem with it. And i have never said their personality and brains don't matter.

The clubs may not be the ideal place but that's the best place if you want a pretty woman. The top ones go there. You should seem some of them. Hot as hell.The babes are not at the coffee shop and library.

And not wanting to go downtown is not a crime. I can't help that i find it disgusting. Can't control these things.

Ace said:

Ace...I mean no disrespect by this comment...but, I find it interesting that you're chastising Spats for his focus on the physical when you are so often doing the same here. All of the threads about models, etc...it's just something I've noticed.
Again, no disrespect meant.