MickG said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: Excellent thread!
Thank you. Thank you. I'll be here all week. One of the best days of my life... http://prince.org/msg/100/291111
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psychodelicide said: 43 and childless by choice. Can't say that I regret not having kids, since being an aunt is fun.
Yes, 31 here and childless very much by choice. I'm too egotistical to want to take care of another person for the rest of my life. I have my pets, that's quite enough. I have been asked "what the hell is wrong with you?" several times though, to which I responded "there are enough unwanted children on this earth, it doesn't need more." If I EVER wanted a child in the future I would adopt an unwanted one cos parenthood ain't in the blood, it's in the actions. | |
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i never wanted children either. but i got pregnant at 23 and even though i considered myself VERY selfish i made a selfless act, i decided to keep the baby instead of abortion or adoption. he changed me (in the most fantastic way possible)...i do believe he is the best thing that has happened to me and the best thing i have ever done. i know i am a great mom but i'm not perfect...i make mistakes all the time...but thats ok. i am CERTAIN i will not be having any more children and i take EVERY precaution to make sure.
i can understand both sides of this coin and as long as people respect your decision then what does it matter? its your life, i think its very responsible to make the decision to not have children. there are to many kids in this world that are neglected or unwanted so those folks that make the conscious decision not to have kids should be prasied for their responsibility. you're only as old as you feel..............so how old do i feel
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childless here!
but then again, I'm 17. | |
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23 and childless. Most of the people i graduated from high school with have kids now....as for me, my biggest worry is saving money for a rainy day, or when i decide to live on my own so that i can pay for furniture in full. I always think about the future wondering if my current boyfriend will end up being my husband, or will i meet somebody else??? i don't know. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Isel said: charlottegelin said: I was never planning anything, but my husband is crazy about babies and kids, and I certainly did not want to deny him his dream. He would most definitely have left me in a hurry if I had told him I didn't want kids. For people who have a partner who doesn't want kids, remember being childless by circumstance (not choice) will be a regret you would live with for the rest of your life. But ultimately, to each their own. Well, sometimes in life we have some disappointments if not regrets. And even though I was shattered when I first found-out that pregnancy might not be an option, a couple of years into that realization, I am more accepting that sometimes life doesn't ALWAYS turn-out the way we planned. I mean, some things AREN'T meant to be as much as we want them or try to make them happen. So unfortunately there is often temporary disappointment in taking a "vision" down a new path rather than giving-up on it completely. I think giving up completely on a dream might lead to regret, but there are OPTIONS and other avenues to make something a reality even though it's not exactly the original plan. Like I said, while I was teaching, I saw ALL TYPES of situations and relationships that parents had with their kids. I'm gonna tell ya the truth: from my observation, RAISING kids is NOT for everyone. Some people simply AREN'T cut-out for it. I think that SOME people have this romantic notion of children (even believing that a child is the ultimate symbol of"love" in a relationship), feel pressured by what society thinks is the norm, need someone to love them unconditionally, and/or other subconscious but selfish reasons, so they are quick to have children. But when things become difficult or don't fit-in to that vision, then they bail sometimes physically but more often emotionally. So like I said, I'm just gonna play the cards that I've been dealt without going through the procedures it might take for me to get pregnant. Frankly, as painful as it might be to give birth, I really think the difficulty is raising children. And if I don't end-up with children of my own, I will be content in trying to help those kids who are already here have better lives and also support their parents in helping their children mature into happy, productive adults. By the way, as far as love is concerned, I have felt deep love for people of all ages. I have felt love for animals as well. I don't think I will be missing-out on that "feeling" or "experience" if it turns-out that I don't have kids. I love and marrried my HUSBAND, and he is open to the idea of having kids for my happiness, but it's NEVER been a true desire for him. However,even it that wasn't the case, I'm not going to abandon my marriage or love him any less if he NEVER wanted to have kids. Like I said, I don't think he is keen on adopting kids, so that might NOT be an option. But whatever his decision, I didn't marry the guy for the sole purposed of having children anyway. Consequently, childess couples have the capacity to love very deeply. As with anything else, I really think that we can’t “judge” each other’s choices or really know another person’s heart. We just have to accept that decisions that we might make might not be the best ones for other people. Consequently, I think that it’s responsible to decide whether or not RAISING children is really a heartfelt dream even though coming to the realization a person lacks this overwhelming” desire” to have kids can be pretty traumatic because in way a person feels like he/she is “less” for making that decision due to societal expectations. If the truth be told, having kids is just a matter of biology, but being a parent is for lifetime, and that effort, despite great intentions, IS NOT always rewarded and NEVER easy. It’s not always this “romantic,” warm-fuzzy ideal. From what I’ve observed and experienced second-hand, the experience can be quite challenging, and believe it or not, as harsh as this sounds some people have many regrets in the way they have either raised their kids or maybe even having them at all. [Edited 12/19/05 6:40am] Yes, yes and yes. There seem to be a lot of women who yearn to have babies like crazy, and maybe some of them have babies without thinking how hard it will be, and what a responsibility and lifelong commitment it will be. All I could think of were all the cons before having a child, I honestly (in my naivety) thought there were no good points to having a kid! What did I know!!! I argued with my husband til I was blue in the face, and it just made me look more and more childish and selfish in his eyes - my reasons for not wanting a child were just immature ones. I love these little people around me so much. | |
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Natisse said: I'm 29 and childless... by choice also but I can't concieve naturally either so that choice has kinda been stripped anyway
my best friend's 2 children are like my own Talk to Sarah, Natisse.. | |
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One parent childless/ one child DEAD
Much Love to all | |
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REDFEATHERS said: One parent childless/ one child DEAD
Much Love to all what?? | |
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Childless and partnerless to boot, life is great. "Waiting to be banned" | |
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charlottegelin said: heartbeatocean said: Really? But are you glad you did? If you don't mind me asking... Yes, that's the thing. I took a giant leap into the unknown, having kids was not an informed choice, it was not a rational decision. But it is like I had never loved, before I loved them. Childless by choice - it is also not an informed choice, you don't really know what it is like to have your own child. Knowing your sisters kids, or babysitting gives no insight to what it is like to have a child. I think loving your step kids might come close. Being childless is not always an uninformed choice, some of us don't want to pro-create if we're not married (which is why I never had kids). Don't get me wrong, I love kids, but I could never afford to raise one on my salary, it just is not doable. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Teacher said: psychodelicide said: 43 and childless by choice. Can't say that I regret not having kids, since being an aunt is fun.
Yes, 31 here and childless very much by choice. I'm too egotistical to want to take care of another person for the rest of my life. I have my pets, that's quite enough. I have been asked "what the hell is wrong with you?" several times though, to which I responded "there are enough unwanted children on this earth, it doesn't need more." If I EVER wanted a child in the future I would adopt an unwanted one cos parenthood ain't in the blood, it's in the actions. You don't strike me as someone who is egotistical at all. I don't understand why people have to ask what is wrong with you just because you don't have children. There is nothing wrong with waiting to have a child if you're not ready (or adopting one, as you mentioned in your post, which is always a great thing). RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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meow85 said: I'm 20 and child-free so far. Believe me, where I live that IS impressive. I know so many girls from high school who've got one or two short people running around already.
that sounds like the city I grew up in. At one point we had the highest teen pregnancy rate. Domestic violence and teen pregnancy is what South Carolina is all about looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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AsianBomb777 said: 34, childless and single mostly by choice.
It is getting more difficult to have frienships. Most single friends of mine around my age (and there are very few), are desperate for a mate. It's wierd, becuaes in your 20's talking about the pursuit for sex is fun--in your 30's it seems tragic. It's getting more isolation as the years go by. Perhaps you want to mention that to Spats. | |
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AnckSuNamun said: meow85 said: I'm 20 and child-free so far. Believe me, where I live that IS impressive. I know so many girls from high school who've got one or two short people running around already.
that sounds like the city I grew up in. At one point we had the highest teen pregnancy rate. Domestic violence and teen pregnancy is what South Carolina is all about By grade 12, pretty much half the girls in every class I was in (except, oddly enough, Psychology ) were either preggers or new moms. I couldn't do that, have a kid now. I can't even manage to make my bed every day -how could I take care of another human being? If I were to get knocked up now I think I'd probably opt for an open adoption. I'd much rather spend my time travelling and partying and getting falling down drunk while I'm young and can still handle it. I'll think about kids once I cant hold my liquor anymore. [Edited 12/20/05 23:54pm] "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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MarySharon said: I'm 26 and swinger
The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them. -- Mark Twain.
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40 and childless by choice and a "little luck"...ahem
Looking forward to the day I am a Daddy! I absolutely love kids!! I have a host of nieces and nephews and little cousins that have helped in my training and parental aspirations!! I have had a great life on my own, and now the next chapter awaits me!! NO RUSH THOUGH!! Still got some THANGS to do!! The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them. -- Mark Twain.
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DexMSR said: MarySharon said: I'm 26 and swinger
Hiya! Is there any place of refuge one can flee from this insanity | |
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DexMSR said: 40 and childless by choice and a "little luck"...ahem
Looking forward to the day I am a Daddy! I absolutely love kids!! I have a host of nieces and nephews and little cousins that have helped in my training and parental aspirations!! I have had a great life on my own, and now the next chapter awaits me!! NO RUSH THOUGH!! Still got some THANGS to do!! what kind of thangs? looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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meow85 said: AnckSuNamun said: that sounds like the city I grew up in. At one point we had the highest teen pregnancy rate. Domestic violence and teen pregnancy is what South Carolina is all about I couldn't do that, have a kid now. I can't even manage to make my bed every day -how could I take care of another human being? [Edited 12/20/05 23:54pm] that's what I said about myself too, but I think my maternal instincts would naturally kick in if I do happen to get pregnant. I won't though... not anytime soon. looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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MarySharon said: I'm 26 and swinger
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I have no plans to ever get married or have kids. I have no interest in taking care of another person or locking myself into a longterm commitment. If a girlfriend did accidently get knocked up then whe would have serious problem. | |
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Spats said: I have no plans to ever get married or have kids. I have no interest in taking care of another person or locking myself into a longterm commitment. If a girlfriend did accidently get knocked up then whe would have serious problem. | |
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Spats said: I have no plans to ever get married or have kids. I have no interest in taking care of another person or locking myself into a longterm commitment. If a girlfriend did accidently get knocked up then whe would have serious problem.
the longer i'm at the org and the more posts of urs i read... ur just an absolute keeper aren't u gezus krist | |
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...but this thread has been so thought-provoking. It would be nice not to turn it into another spats thread. | |
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married for 3 years and childless. we want little ones but it just hasn't happened. My kitty wants to play... | |
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37 here and childless. i can't have kids and discovered that at age 27 and before that i hadn't ever been in a situation where having children would've been the right thing to do (not married, not financially stable, etc)
part of me feels that i wouldn't ever have made a very good mother anyway and so my not having kids probably is for the best anyway. another part of me feels so sad sometimes that i will never have that experience...and then i begin overanalyzing the situation and wonder if i feel that way merely because the option of having kids was taken away from me, and wasnt a decision i made for myself (you know, that old 'want what you can't have' thing) i know there's always adoption but if i face reality i know that i will probably never have kids of my own. the practical part of me feels that's probably good because, for various reasons, i just don't think i'd make a good parent for a child and i wouldnt' ever want to screw up a child by not being the kind of mother a child deserves to have. it gets hard sometimes to be this age and not have kids. i feel rather alienated sometimes because, where i live, most women my age have AT LEAST one child. my class reunion is next summer and my classmates are filling out profiles and almost everybody has 2-3 kids. when i've had jobs where i've worked with other women who all have kids, they always talk about their kids and pregnancy and motherhood and all that stuff that i will never experience and it kind of sets me apart and i feel like i don't fit in with them. they share this common bond that i don't have. thankfully i have nephews though whom i couldn't love more if they were my own, and i am grateful for having been around to watch them grow up. | |
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MrsJimmyFallon said: 37 here and childless. i can't have kids and discovered that at age 27 and before that i hadn't ever been in a situation where having children would've been the right thing to do (not married, not financially stable, etc)
part of me feels that i wouldn't ever have made a very good mother anyway and so my not having kids probably is for the best anyway. another part of me feels so sad sometimes that i will never have that experience...and then i begin overanalyzing the situation and wonder if i feel that way merely because the option of having kids was taken away from me, and wasnt a decision i made for myself (you know, that old 'want what you can't have' thing) i know there's always adoption but if i face reality i know that i will probably never have kids of my own. the practical part of me feels that's probably good because, for various reasons, i just don't think i'd make a good parent for a child and i wouldnt' ever want to screw up a child by not being the kind of mother a child deserves to have. it gets hard sometimes to be this age and not have kids. i feel rather alienated sometimes because, where i live, most women my age have AT LEAST one child. my class reunion is next summer and my classmates are filling out profiles and almost everybody has 2-3 kids. when i've had jobs where i've worked with other women who all have kids, they always talk about their kids and pregnancy and motherhood and all that stuff that i will never experience and it kind of sets me apart and i feel like i don't fit in with them. they share this common bond that i don't have. thankfully i have nephews though whom i couldn't love more if they were my own, and i am grateful for having been around to watch them grow up. When I was in my early 20's, I worked in a corporate office surrounded by women my age who spent every waking minute of their lives planning weddings, having their first babies, etc. I just didn't fit in. As time has gone by, however...I work in the arts, live in a progressive city (most people aren't even heterosexual ), most of my close friends are childless and unmarried, and I can devote a lot of energy to my career and hob nob with really interesting professionals. | |
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psychodelicide said: charlottegelin said: Yes, that's the thing. I took a giant leap into the unknown, having kids was not an informed choice, it was not a rational decision. But it is like I had never loved, before I loved them. Childless by choice - it is also not an informed choice, you don't really know what it is like to have your own child. Knowing your sisters kids, or babysitting gives no insight to what it is like to have a child. I think loving your step kids might come close. Being childless is not always an uninformed choice, some of us don't want to pro-create if we're not married (which is why I never had kids). Don't get me wrong, I love kids, but I could never afford to raise one on my salary, it just is not doable. But if you had married, would you have wanted kids? | |
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This is sort of off-topic, but I've thought about "sponsoring" a child. I just heard an interview where this woman met an Indian child whom she had sponsored for years. The child had EVERY letter and card that the woman had sent her displayed on bedroom wall.
Anyway this woman and a friend have started a group for these children because there are many more who need sponsors. They can't be adopted because apparently their mothers haven't relinquished their rights. A number of local artists her in Austin, including Bob Schnieder, have recorded a Christmas cd to benefit this organization. That would be one option for people who don't have children, but want to "help" a child/ be a part of child's life in some capacity. Here's the link to the Xmas cd. There also included is a link to the donation/sponsorship page: http://www.miraclefoundat...rg/cd.html [Edited 12/22/05 8:17am] | |
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