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Reply #30 posted 12/14/05 12:18pm

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madartista said:

The producers are very much after a big hit, and want to appeal to as wide an audience as possible. And the bigger hit it is, the better, I think. So I don't care how they get people into the seats!!!!


Well, if "Gramps" walks into the theather not knowing what he is seeing, people will freak out!

lol Several "gramps" walked out of the theatre when I saw The Crying Game during the, um, reveal.
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Reply #31 posted 12/14/05 12:20pm

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VinnyM27 said:



Well, if "Gramps" walks into the theather not knowing what he is seeing, people will freak out!

lol Several "gramps" walked out of the theatre when I saw The Crying Game during the, um, reveal.


We'll just have to wait and see....
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Reply #32 posted 12/14/05 1:01pm

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I'm not so sure; I've read several reviews by people that had "Gramps" in their theatres, and he was crying at the end.

I think this movie can change people; certainly the book has had a life altering effect on a lot of people. Larry McMurty and Diana Ossana were so moved that they optioned the rights with their own money. Andy Towle, of Towleroad.com, has been using his blog to promote the movie for years. Don't doubt word of mouth; it made My Big Fat Greek Wedding, and I'm hoping for the same effect here. Really, what I'm looking forward to the most is all the Gramps who will be changed.

Vinny: I'm a gay man, and I originally had no interest in seeing the movie. I heard "Jake, Heath, gay cowboy movie", and I thought "And?", but I beg of you not to let the superficial description of the plot keep you from seeing this amazing, amazing film. Read the book first; it's all of 20 pages, will take an hour of your time, and is likewise amazing.

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Reply #33 posted 12/14/05 1:07pm

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I think this movie can change people; certainly the book has had a life altering effect on a lot of people. Larry McMurty and Diana Ossana were so moved that they optioned the rights with their own money. Andy Towle, of Towleroad.com, has been using his blog to promote the movie for years. Don't doubt word of mouth; it made My Big Fat Greek Wedding, and I'm hoping for the same effect here. Really, what I'm looking forward to the most is all the Gramps who will be changed.


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Reply #34 posted 12/14/05 1:15pm

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Well, if "Gramps" walks into the theather not knowing what he is seeing, people will freak out!


The buzz about this movie is so strong and so clearly "the gay cowboy movie" that someone accidently wandering in looking for "Lonesome Dove" gets what they deserve. It's a great contrast to "The Crying Game," and how marketing was handled for that. I worked in a suburban metroplex that ran "The Crying Game" and certainly did see a fair number walk out.
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Reply #35 posted 12/14/05 1:19pm

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Read the book first; it's all of 20 pages, will take an hour of your time, and is likewise amazing.

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they told this whole story in 20 pages???! eek
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Reply #36 posted 12/14/05 1:58pm

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Review: Brilliant 'Brokeback'
Groundbreaking film one of best of the year
By Paul Clinton
For CNN.com


Friday, December 9, 2005; Posted: 1:44 p.m. EST (18:44 GMT)

"Brokeback Mountain" stars Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal as cowboys who embark on an affair.
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Starring: Heath Ledger, Jake Gyllenhaal, Michelle Williams, Anne Hathaway, Randy Quaid

Directed by: Ang Lee

Screenplay by: Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana, based on the short story by E. Annie Proulx

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(CNN) -- The script for "Brokeback Mountain," based on the short story by Annie Proulx, was called the best non-produced screenplay in Hollywood as it floated for seven years through the executive suites of all the major studios. It had also gained the odious nickname of "the gay cowboy movie," which made the film toxic to many.

Both Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal had seen the screenplay, by the writing team of Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana, and had been impressed with the results. But it still took two little words whispered into their ears to make them finally sign on to the project. Those two words were Ang Lee.

Lee is one of the most respected directors working today. His films include "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon," "Sense and Sensibility" and "The Hulk." He had also handled another film that explored gay subject matter, "The Wedding Banquet," to great critical acclaim.

Lee is a sublime storyteller, and after all isn't that what a movie is all about?

In the case of "Brokeback Mountain," all the talent pays off. The combination of the terrific script, Lee's sensitive and precise direction, and the dynamic acting talents of Ledger, as ranch hand Ennis Del Mar, and Gyllenhaal, as rodeo cowboy Jack Twist, has resulted in an exquisitely crafted and ultimately melancholy love story -- epic in scope and intensely intimate at the same time.

Quite simply, this is one of the best films of the year.

To label "Brokeback Mountain" as "the gay cowboy movie" does a great disservice to its haunting love story, stretching over decades, which survived in a time and place in which the two men's feelings for each other were utterly taboo.

Lee promised to not back off from the physical relationship between the two men and to their credit Ledger and Gyllenhaal pull no punches when it comes to the kissing scenes. They also pull no punches when it comes to an actual fight scene between the two of them.

The ties that bind
Neither Ennis nor Jack identify themselves as gay, but after spending a lonely summer on Brokeback Mountain tending sheep for ranch owner Joe Aguirre (Randy Quaid), their slowly emerging emotional bond turns physical when a booze-driven, impromptu primal urge takes over one night. This torrid sexual encounter, tastefully filmed, shames and excites them in equal measure, but is barely acknowledged in the light of day.

Ennis manages to mumble "You know I ain't queer," to which Jack replies, "Me neither."

But their repressed passion for each other continues throughout the summer. When they finally part, both think it's forever.

Ennis remains in Wyoming and marries his long-time sweetheart Alma (Michelle Williams) and produces two daughters. Jack continues to ride the rodeo circuit and marries the winsome rodeo queen Lureen Newsome (Anne Hathaway), a paring which also includes a job with her rich father.

Four years pass and one day Ennis receives a note from Jack saying he's going to be passing through and would like to see him. The moment they see each other it's clear their physical attraction has not diminished, and they find themselves kissing passionately. This act is witnessed by a shocked Alma, who has no context in her somewhat limited life experience to understand the scene. She decides to ignore it.

But both men now know that their love for each other -- while impossible to acknowledge to the outside world -- is a potent combination. They arrange to see each other once a year under the pretense of fishing trips.

Over the years Jack tries unsuccessfully to get Ennis to come with him and build a life on their own, but Ennis rejects him every time. The final result is achingly sad.

Great performances
"Brokeback Mountain" may be a hard sell to the general public, though it's earned plenty of critical acclaim -- including the top award at the Venice Film Festival. It's also probably on Oscar's best picture radar.

The performances are terrific. Ledger is taciturn and brilliantly understated. Ennis is a man who can not access his emotions, and Ledger's most powerful moments come with no dialogue; what isn't said speaks volumes. Just a gesture, a shrug, or momentary glance at Jack conveys what many actors -- and scripts -- would need pages of words to achieve.

Gyllenhaal also delivers his best performance to date, and with another big film opening this year, "Jarhead," his stardom is definitely on the rise.

But the two women in the film, Williams and Hathaway, also deserve a lot of credit for adding to the emotional depth this wonderful film achieves. Their roles were greatly expanded from Proulx's short story and the balance of their relationships with their husbands -- and their husband's deep ties to each other -- greatly enrich this unique and brilliant film.

Human beings have a deep need to love and to be loved in return. "Brokeback Mountain" celebrates that need without making any moral judgments. One line in the film sums it all up: "If you can't fix it, you gotta stand it."
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Reply #37 posted 12/14/05 4:07pm

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Oh my God. I hadn't checked the officual movie site for a while. I've been reading some of those posts from the public on there. Some of the stories are heartbreaking. Don't read them if you've had a bad day. sad
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Reply #38 posted 12/14/05 4:22pm

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Has the porn Bareback mountain come out yet? lol



or better yet "bareback mounting"
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Reply #39 posted 12/14/05 4:22pm

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They should release a after hours directors cut.
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Reply #40 posted 12/14/05 4:31pm

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lilgish said:

Has the porn Bareback mountain come out yet? lol



or better yet "bareback mounting"
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Reply #41 posted 12/14/05 4:45pm

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DynamicSavior said:

lilgish said:

Has the porn Bareback mountain come out yet? lol



or better yet "bareback mounting"
[Edited 12/14/05 16:23pm]


We're filming it as we speak....

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Reply #42 posted 12/14/05 6:24pm

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Well I just saw Brokeback Mountain today and I must say that was such an excellent film. It was exactly what they said, it's a love story and a sad one at that. I left the movie theater feeling so emotional and that's never happened to me before. It's probably because it hit so close to home for me. Please don't dismiss this film because of the content. This film deserves all the praise it's gotten.
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Reply #43 posted 12/14/05 6:41pm

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lol oh god that poster disbelief
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Reply #44 posted 12/14/05 7:39pm

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My city's conservative as hell, but it is opening here. biggrin


Not until the 21st or 22nd, but it'll be here.
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Reply #45 posted 12/15/05 8:06am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Squeakity said:

Read the book first; it's all of 20 pages, will take an hour of your time, and is likewise amazing.

Squeak


they told this whole story in 20 pages???! eek



Yeah; Annie Proulx flies through years in a matter of sentences. The film goes a little more in detail of the space between, although everything in it has Proulx's approval, and many reviews have said that the scenes that were added could easily have been written into the book.

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Reply #46 posted 12/15/05 9:55am

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I am so obsessed with this movie it´s not even funny...

So glad it´s winning all these critics awards, and then the
gg nominations, etc...

I am afraid that all this anticipation turns out to be a
disappoinment when I finally see the film but what the hell...

I haven´t been this excited for a film in my whole life




SAME HERE!!!! I've been waiting for this movie forever. I just can't wait until they make the movie THE DREYFUSS AFFAIR. Hopefully this movie will get TDA a green light.

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Reply #47 posted 12/15/05 10:07am

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

garganta said:

I am so obsessed with this movie it´s not even funny...

So glad it´s winning all these critics awards, and then the
gg nominations, etc...

I am afraid that all this anticipation turns out to be a
disappoinment when I finally see the film but what the hell...

I haven´t been this excited for a film in my whole life




SAME HERE!!!! I've been waiting for this movie forever. I just can't wait until they make the movie THE DREYFUSS AFFAIR. Hopefully this movie will get TDA a green light.

M



you'll love it M
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Reply #48 posted 12/15/05 10:12am

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ehuffnsd said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:





SAME HERE!!!! I've been waiting for this movie forever. I just can't wait until they make the movie THE DREYFUSS AFFAIR. Hopefully this movie will get TDA a green light.

M



you'll love it M



I'm sooooo excited. I was in L.A. yesterday and there was no way I could get away to see it. San Jose is a major city, but we don't get it until tomorrow. Memoirs of a Geisha also come out. I'm going to be in the movie theater all day tomorrow.


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Reply #49 posted 12/15/05 10:43am

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

ehuffnsd said:




you'll love it M



I'm sooooo excited. I was in L.A. yesterday and there was no way I could get away to see it. San Jose is a major city, but we don't get it until tomorrow. Memoirs of a Geisha also come out. I'm going to be in the movie theater all day tomorrow.


M

Geisha is my next movie to see. i have a friend in SF who is upset about it, because she is half Japanense, but i'm going to see it anyway!! it looks great.
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Reply #50 posted 12/15/05 11:04am

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:




I'm sooooo excited. I was in L.A. yesterday and there was no way I could get away to see it. San Jose is a major city, but we don't get it until tomorrow. Memoirs of a Geisha also come out. I'm going to be in the movie theater all day tomorrow.


M

Geisha is my next movie to see. i have a friend in SF who is upset about it, because she is half Japanense, but i'm going to see it anyway!! it looks great.




Yeah I think the lead actors are Chinese.


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Reply #51 posted 12/15/05 11:58am

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garganta said:

I haven´t been this excited for a film in my whole life



Likewise. I haven't sat through a whole movie in over 3 years, but I'm making it a point to see this one, and pay to see this one, just to help prove the people who are predicting low numbers wrong.


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