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Fauxie... What's it all about? No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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Processes. | |
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Fauxie said: Processes.
What's the end result of these processes? No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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littlemissG said: Fauxie said: Processes.
What's the end result of these processes? There is no end result. It's all cyclical. | |
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Fauxie said: littlemissG said: What's the end result of these processes? There is no end result. It's all cyclical. So no matter what we do, we are just going in circles? No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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littlemissG said: Fauxie said: There is no end result. It's all cyclical. So no matter what we do, we are just going in circles? Conventionally speaking, no. And that's how we live. We achieve things. | |
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Fauxie said: littlemissG said: So no matter what we do, we are just going in circles? Conventionally speaking, no. And that's how we live. We achieve things. But what's really achieved in life as view by history? News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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Fauxie said: littlemissG said: So no matter what we do, we are just going in circles? Conventionally speaking, no. And that's how we live. We achieve things. Can we ever achieve enough to break free of the cyclical nature of living? Is there an end to stagnation, strife, and decline? No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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littlemissG said: Fauxie said: Conventionally speaking, no. And that's how we live. We achieve things. Can we ever achieve enough to break free of the cyclical nature of living? Is there an end to stagnation, strife, and decline? That depends. There are certain conventional constructs we seem to need to adhere to in order to live at all, for the supposed sanity of the human mind (although it likely has more to do with social order and the practicalities of social evolution). From this perspective there can be an end to stagnation, strife and decline, or at least the possibility of it, and similarly there is the opportunity for change and accomplishment, but only in a conventional sense. To try to break free of cycles and processes in this way would be a delusional pursuit. I don't think nirvana could be by way of any one thing or sum of parts that would fit neatly under 'trying to break free'. But what do I know? I'd rather you'd have asked me 3 or 4 seemingly unrelated questions as you've done on other threads. ... [Edited 12/10/05 19:37pm] | |
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Fauxie said: littlemissG said: Can we ever achieve enough to break free of the cyclical nature of living? Is there an end to stagnation, strife, and decline? That depends. There are certain conventional constructs we seem to need to adhere to in order to live at all, for the supposed sanity of the human mind (although it likely has more to do with social order and the practicalities of social evolution). From this perspective there can be an end to stagnation, strife and decline, or at least the possibility of it, and similarly there is the opportunity for change and accomplishment, but only in a conventional sense. To try to break free of cycles and processes in this way would be a delusional pursuit. I don't think nirvana could be by way of any one thing or sum of parts that would fit neatly under 'trying to break free'. But what do I know? I'd rather you'd have asked me 3 or 4 seemingly unrelated questions as you've done on other threads. ... [Edited 12/10/05 19:37pm] So you're saying it better to come to some sort of acceptance of these cycles, as advocated by many religions? No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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littlemissG said: Fauxie said: That depends. There are certain conventional constructs we seem to need to adhere to in order to live at all, for the supposed sanity of the human mind (although it likely has more to do with social order and the practicalities of social evolution). From this perspective there can be an end to stagnation, strife and decline, or at least the possibility of it, and similarly there is the opportunity for change and accomplishment, but only in a conventional sense. To try to break free of cycles and processes in this way would be a delusional pursuit. I don't think nirvana could be by way of any one thing or sum of parts that would fit neatly under 'trying to break free'. But what do I know? I'd rather you'd have asked me 3 or 4 seemingly unrelated questions as you've done on other threads. ... [Edited 12/10/05 19:37pm] So you're saying it better to come to some sort of acceptance of these cycles, as advocated by many religions? Yes, although 'acceptance' sounds almost begrudging or at least suggests a little helplessness. I mean, you can swim upstream, across, all kinds of ways, and certainly acknowledging and recognising discord is a good thing, I think. You can swim downstream too, if you're really keen. And then there's floating. It's not apathy, helplessness or begrudging acceptance. It's harmonious and based on an awareness of all of the options. | |
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