2the9s said:

it's my milk man.



here's a bigger picture.

LleeLlee said:

2the9s said:

I'll bet my milk man is hotter than yours..you dont even have one do you? You have to go out and get your own curdled milk.


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[Edited 12/8/05 11:34am]

i think that i go up and down

like the guy trying to hit the bell at a carnival

up and down

up and down

like a pony would

shausler said:

A very good post you have started here.

Those shackles that hold you back are within your own mind. The battle ground isn't an objective, it is an inturnalized idealisim.

shausler said:

The hierarchy of needs! I'm hit and miss all the way up.

Electrostar said:

hey you!!! haven't seen you around for a while

Natisse said:

Distractions in life..... hope your well sweetheart and all ready for xmas! - 2 weeks and counting....

Electrostar said:

I am hon, hope you are too

I like what that Maslow geezer said. I agree with him. Unfortunately I'm not at all actualised yet

Natisse said:

Oh yeah. Going to be the best xmas in years...

Electrostar said:

EEEEEXCELLENT

I'm going to attempt some sleep now but I'll catch up with you real soon ok? take care

Natisse said:

Have a good one and see you soon!

i wish i could "actualize" what i'm actually to suppose to be doing with my life....can the dr. answer that for me?

Or is Barney, the Cute Purple Dinosaur, Satan?

I can philosophize for hourz about this and how i relatez to me and how it may relate to everybody else.

I believe i am not just one but many thingz. They all link to eachother and probably correspond with one particular side of my brain.

I believe i will alwayz be a variation of all these many thingz that I am. You know, in my case im a writer, singer, song-writer, poet, etc. All of these will be part of me and as life progresses i will discover more thingz that "i am" to add to that list.

But most importantly- i think- is that you really are truly aware of all those things you are- and be happy with it, and take pride in it and be willing to improve always in it. Accept all your good pointz, and take heed to your weaknesses- and try and improve on those always too. No actually- not just try. REALLY improve on them- wheter it takes 10 minutes or 10 years or longer- you DO IT and no pissing about!! BE aware of yourself. But also be aware fo others. The world around you. Everything.

Self-actualisation is a constant feel for how you contribute to your own world and the world around you.

Yes,BEHAVIORAL PSYCHOLOGY..SELF ACTUALIZATION..ACHEIVING your GOAL. Where are you on the LADDER? WHERE DO YOU WANT TO BE....STEPS TO FULFILLMENT.... I Studied and Know ALL ABOUT it...Not There yet..SEE YOU AT THE TOP NORMAN PEELE,DALE CARNAGIE all that SHIT...The ROAD TO SUCCESSS....

chunky said:

(sigh)
No.
For the last time,
whether they are named Barney, Dino or Prince,
purple dinosaurs are not evil.

I want to be a good teacher, a good friend, a good poet, a good lover, a good sister, a good cook, a good orger,...and in the future even a good mother...

I find it very hard to realize all these things at the same time. There has been a period I've been winning prizes with my poetry, but at that time I wasn't the best friend for those who deserved it.

Today I'm trying to be a good teacher. I have calmed down and showed my best friends how much I love them. But not one great poem has poured from my pen the last months...

So, self-realization very important, that's right, but you can't make it a burden... for me it's something I try to keep in mind. I try to respect the diversity of the concept and give it the freedom to evolve. I would been too fixed, I would be a very unhappy person.

We do not have structures in our sphere of consciousness that would lead us to lead a life according to some externally defined profession or title. Therefore a "poet" cannot "actualize" himself anymore than, say, a nurse can by just performing the act of writing poems. Professions are just arbitrary names for means to get some food on the table, our other activities do not need such performative behaviour to actualize themselves. Anyone can express themselves in any means they wish to, they don't have to confine to just being simply a "poet" if they want to do what poets are generally considered to do.

Novabreaker said:

Of course it's not as black and white as that. I think Maslow was just trying to convey his point with a rhethorical catchphrase. You do agree with his real point though, that we have a personal potential in us that we can "actualize"?

retina said:

Why sure. I have right now the potential to open this pack of cookies and eat them. And I think I'm going to be able to self-actualize myself on this new challenge.
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Novabreaker said:

So your personal potential is to open a pack of cookies? That seems more like a general potential to me.

retina said:

Well the original proposition was that we all have personal potential, and how do we view it ourselves. If we all have some talent (or at least the most of us) why make such distinctions between general and personal? Am I so special because I plan out to become a performer of some activity, or am I special because I actually perform that activity? The motif behind this scenario seems to be that we have to be first something in order to do something creative, and paradoxically we can only "actualize" ourselves by doing it. But I am not a poet before I have written a poem, and if I am not a poet how could I know how to write a proper poem? Therefore I think there is no need for "self-actualization" as such, what's more important is the actualization of the act. Not the actualization of yourself, that's the wrong route.

...I'm just talkin'.

Novabreaker said:

I think a lot of people share your opinion. I don't agree though; I do think we have certain personal (although not necessarily completely unique) seeds that we can sow. You could argue that this makes us less free in the sense that we have a "destiny" of sorts, but I don't think that's the case either. We are free to choose our own path in life and whether or not that is in accordance with our personal gifts is entirely up to us. To run with the more general potential that exists for us is no less valid.

I, for one, find it both satisfying and rewarding to strive to 1) identify my personal potential and 2) actualize it though.

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retina said:

Mind you, my personal potential really actualized itself in regards with these cookies. These are indeed quite tasty.

I think I'm gonna have to go get a pizza next. Then my self-actualization process towards getting fat will be closer to its fulfillment.

Novabreaker said:

I would have laughed along with this attempt to finish the discussion on a light-hearted note if it hadn't been for the back-handed jab at my reasoning that is to be found in the subtext.

retina said:

I'm so evil.

Novabreaker said:

You said it.

retina said:

The difference between what I wanted to do... and what I needed to do.

And the importance of timing - that things happen at the right time. Often I thought something wasn't working out, but it simply wasn't time yet.

I am learning patience as I grow older. Slowly!