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Reply #30 posted 12/01/05 10:41pm

Zelaira

It's just Tradition..Pink for Girl's Blue for Boys. I happen to Love wearing Pink. It's a feminine color... I loveit..
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Reply #31 posted 12/02/05 12:07am

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Zelaira said:

It's just Tradition..Pink for Girl's Blue for Boys. I happen to Love wearing Pink. It's a feminine color... I loveit..

Yeah, but why is it tradition is what the thread is about. Why is it feminine? Aqua and sky blue are soft colours like pink is, but it's okay for boys to wear those.
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Reply #32 posted 12/02/05 12:13am

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For the love of God, that's a lot of pink. eek
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Reply #33 posted 12/02/05 12:44am

nilegettolrahc

meow85 said:

Zelaira said:

It's just Tradition..Pink for Girl's Blue for Boys. I happen to Love wearing Pink. It's a feminine color... I loveit..

Yeah, but why is it tradition is what the thread is about. Why is it feminine? Aqua and sky blue are soft colours like pink is, but it's okay for boys to wear those.

nod exactly.
A pig is called a pig because it is a dirty animal. Same thing.
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Reply #34 posted 12/02/05 12:51am

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nilegettolrahc said:

meow85 said:


Yeah, but why is it tradition is what the thread is about. Why is it feminine? Aqua and sky blue are soft colours like pink is, but it's okay for boys to wear those.

nod exactly.
A pig is called a pig because it is a dirty animal. Same thing.

Funny thing is, pigs are pretty clean compared to most other barnyard animals. Why isn't a cow called a pig? A cow will sit in it's own shit but a pig wouldn't.
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Reply #35 posted 12/02/05 1:04am

nilegettolrahc

meow85 said:

nilegettolrahc said:


nod exactly.
A pig is called a pig because it is a dirty animal. Same thing.

Funny thing is, pigs are pretty clean compared to most other barnyard animals. Why isn't a cow called a pig? A cow will sit in it's own shit but a pig wouldn't.

the question really is, why aren't dirty people called filthy cows? lol
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Reply #36 posted 12/02/05 1:07am

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I like pink batting eyes
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Reply #37 posted 12/02/05 1:11am

nilegettolrahc

bkw said:

I like pink batting eyes

well, of course. Do you wear pink shirts to work? Do you encourage your son to wear pink? If he says Yuk! Pink is for girls, do you even try to argue?
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Reply #38 posted 12/02/05 1:12am

meow85

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nilegettolrahc said:

meow85 said:


Funny thing is, pigs are pretty clean compared to most other barnyard animals. Why isn't a cow called a pig? A cow will sit in it's own shit but a pig wouldn't.

the question really is, why aren't dirty people called filthy cows? lol

A question for the ages. razz
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Reply #39 posted 12/02/05 1:14am

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nilegettolrahc said:

bkw said:

I like pink batting eyes

well, of course. Do you wear pink shirts to work? Do you encourage your son to wear pink? If he says Yuk! Pink is for girls, do you even try to argue?

I wore a pink shirt to work today. My son has better cloths than me and i'm jealous! mad
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Reply #40 posted 12/02/05 1:16am

nilegettolrahc

meow85 said:

nilegettolrahc said:


the question really is, why aren't dirty people called filthy cows? lol

A question for the ages. razz

Actually, I have called someone a filthy cow before, but not because they were covered in dirt redface
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Reply #41 posted 12/02/05 1:16am

nilegettolrahc

bkw said:

nilegettolrahc said:


well, of course. Do you wear pink shirts to work? Do you encourage your son to wear pink? If he says Yuk! Pink is for girls, do you even try to argue?

I wore a pink shirt to work today. My son has better cloths than me and i'm jealous! mad

thumbs up!
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Reply #42 posted 12/02/05 1:25am

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nilegettolrahc said:

meow85 said:


A question for the ages. razz

Actually, I have called someone a filthy cow before, but not because they were covered in dirt redface

lol
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Reply #43 posted 12/02/05 2:44am

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hmmm in the 18th - early 20th century it was the other way round blue was seen as feminine and pink (light red ) was seen as masculin
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Reply #44 posted 12/02/05 2:49am

abierman

Zelaira said:

It's just Tradition..Pink for Girl's Blue for Boys. I happen to Love wearing Pink. It's a feminine color... I loveit..



pink & blue.....the chicks dig it!!!

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Reply #45 posted 12/02/05 2:57am

isadora

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Not sure if this is true or not, but this is one explanation I've heard. It does seem to make sense.


Ages ago in Europe, when a lot of people were uneducated and superstitious and there were a lot of childhood deaths, it was thought that babies and children died because they were stolen by magical little people. (usually faeries) Faeries were believed to have an aversion to forget-me-nots and blue was thought to be a holy colour (the virgin Mary nearly always being portrayed wearing blue, for example) Boys were considered more important than girls, and therefore more worthy of protection, so blue forget-me-nots would be placed around their cribs and beds. Years later someone thought girls should have a bit of protection too -but not as much as the more important boys -so they were given pink forget-me-nots. The idea for blue for boys and pink for girls stuck.


As for why kids seem stuck on the idea: it's because adults reinforce it. Monkey see, monkey do.


Interesting. But I once heard back in history pink was for boys and blue for girls and somewhere along the way it was reversed. Anyway.

I think pink only looks good on little girls, I myself refuse to wear girly pink. hmph!
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Reply #46 posted 12/02/05 3:02am

abierman

isadora said:

I myself refuse to wear girly pink. hmph!




you're right.....it takes a man..... lol
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Reply #47 posted 12/02/05 3:25am

retina

Pink has been the colour of the Stockholm snobs for quite some time now. They wear pink shirts with the collar folded up and keep their hair slicked back. It kind of makes them look like a weird breed of flamingo. confused
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Reply #48 posted 12/02/05 3:29am

abierman

retina said:

Pink has been the colour of the Stockholm snobs for quite some time now. They wear pink shirts with the collar folded up and keep their hair slicked back. It kind of makes them look like a weird breed of flamingo. confused



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Reply #49 posted 12/02/05 3:38am

retina

abierman said:

retina said:

Pink has been the colour of the Stockholm snobs for quite some time now. They wear pink shirts with the collar folded up and keep their hair slicked back. It kind of makes them look like a weird breed of flamingo. confused



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Why am I not surprised? lol
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Reply #50 posted 12/02/05 3:39am

Heiress

my daughter has always been more of a lavendar person.

pale green is also a good "neutral" baby color.

i dressed her in a lot of blue as a baby, because it looked good on her... but in spite of her 1 inch eyelashes and the fact she was wearing blue DRESSES, everyone thought she was a boy! mad

a thought i find a bit irritating is on the issue of hand-me-downs... when you have a daughter first, and a son second, do you put him in all her little pink things? hmmm i'll have to see if and when the time comes.
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Reply #51 posted 12/02/05 3:45am

retina

Heiress said:

i dressed her in a lot of blue as a baby, because it looked good on her... but in spite of her 1 inch eyelashes and the fact she was wearing blue DRESSES, everyone thought she was a boy! mad


One of my friends' little sister used to have short hair when she was a kid. And when she was around seven or eight, people would compliment her parents on their cute son. neutral

To this day - and she's now in her late twenties - she still suffers from those memories and gets paranoid as soon as she sees someone looking at her.

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Reply #52 posted 12/02/05 4:05am

abierman

retina said:

abierman said:




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Why am I not surprised? lol



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Reply #53 posted 12/02/05 8:29am

EskomoKisses

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Some fun junk I found googling smile

According to the website "Gender Specific Colors," it would seem that
assigning color to gender is mostly a 20th century trait. It would
also seem that at one time, the color associations were reversed when
color first came into use as a gender identifier.

In fact, this reversal of what we consider "normal" was considered
conventional, even in the early 20th century.

"At one point pink was considered more of a boy's color, (as a
watered-down red, which is a fierce color) and blue was more for
girls. The associate of pink with bold, dramatic red clearly affected
its use for boys. An American newspaper in 1914 advised mothers, "If
you like the color note on the little one's garments, use pink for the
boy and blue for the girl, if you are a follower of convention." [The
Sunday Sentinal, March 29, 1914.]

"There has been a great diversity of opinion on the subject, but the
generally accepted rule is pink for the boy and blue for the girl. The
reason is that pink being a more decided and stronger color is more
suitable for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty,
is prettier for the girl." [Ladies Home Journal, June, 1918]
http://histclo.hispeed.co...color.html - "Gender Specific
Colors"

According to Jo B. Paoletti and Carol Kregloh, "The Children's
Department," in Claudia Brush Kidwell and Valerie Steele, ed., Men and
Women: Dressing the Part, (Smithsonian Institution Press, 1989). -
In the United States: "The current pink for girls and blue for boys
wasn't uniform until the 1950's.

It would also seem that Nazi Germany had something to do with the
association of pink with femininity:

"Catholic traditions in Germany and neighboring countries reverse the
current color coding, because of the strong association of blue with
the Virgin Mary...the NAZIs in their concentration camps use a pink
triangle to identify homosexuals. (The yellow star of David is the
best known symbol, used of course to identify Jews. The German system
was quite complicated, using various symbols an colors to identify
criminals, political prisinors, an a whole range of other groups). The
NAZI's choice of pink suggests that it by the 1930s was a color that
in Germany had become associate with girls." - "Gender Specific
Colors"

Here is another site backing the same color history.

"The preferred color to dress young boys in was pink! Blue was
reserved for girls as it was considered the paler, more dainty of the
two colors, and pink was thought to be the stronger (akin to red). It
was not until WWII that the colors were reversed and pink was used for
girls and blue for boys..." - Quote from Dress Maker Magazine
http://www.dressmaker.com...0200.shtml

"Jo B. Paoletti concludes that the effect of color-coded gender
differences (pink for girls, blue for boys) existed oppositely
initially..." - Quote from book review "The Material Culture of
Gender, the Gender of Material Culture" - Winterthur, Del.: Henry
Francis du Pont Winterthur Museum, 1997 - From the Journal of American
History - Please note that this is a cached page as the current page
is different:
http://tinyurl.com/iy31

While there are also myths and legends supporting both or either color
for gender identification, those resources dealing with straight
history date the identification of pink with femininity to the period
of World War II or later.
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Reply #54 posted 12/02/05 8:32am

EskomoKisses

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That being said...I am *not* a pink person. My baby blanket was blue shrug

Looking @ baby clothes I am more drawn to the designs of girl clothes, but when things come in both blue and pink I tend to like the blue better. I wish more things came in cream/ivory.

I'm decorating the baby's room in sage green, denim blue and cream. If it's a girl I can alway add lavender accents, if it's a boy I can add more blues.

I just don't like pink.
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Reply #55 posted 12/02/05 8:47am

Heiress

EskomoKisses said:

That being said...I am *not* a pink person. My baby blanket was blue shrug

Looking @ baby clothes I am more drawn to the designs of girl clothes, but when things come in both blue and pink I tend to like the blue better. I wish more things came in cream/ivory.

I'm decorating the baby's room in sage green, denim blue and cream. If it's a girl I can alway add lavender accents, if it's a boy I can add more blues.

I just don't like pink.


Some people don't look good in pink, including some babies.
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Reply #56 posted 12/02/05 8:56am

TheRealFiness

because its what "society" says man fuck society and its bullshit rules.
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Reply #57 posted 12/02/05 8:57am

isadora

EskomoKisses said:

Some fun junk I found googling smile

According to the website "Gender Specific Colors," it would seem that
assigning color to gender is mostly a 20th century trait. It would
also seem that at one time, the color associations were reversed when
color first came into use as a gender identifier.

In fact, this reversal of what we consider "normal" was considered
conventional, even in the early 20th century.

"At one point pink was considered more of a boy's color, (as a
watered-down red, which is a fierce color) and blue was more for
girls. The associate of pink with bold, dramatic red clearly affected
its use for boys. An American newspaper in 1914 advised mothers, "If
you like the color note on the little one's garments, use pink for the
boy and blue for the girl, if you are a follower of convention." [The
Sunday Sentinal, March 29, 1914.]

"There has been a great diversity of opinion on the subject, but the
generally accepted rule is pink for the boy and blue for the girl. The
reason is that pink being a more decided and stronger color is more
suitable for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty,
is prettier for the girl." [Ladies Home Journal, June, 1918]
http://histclo.hispeed.co...color.html - "Gender Specific
Colors"

According to Jo B. Paoletti and Carol Kregloh, "The Children's
Department," in Claudia Brush Kidwell and Valerie Steele, ed., Men and
Women: Dressing the Part, (Smithsonian Institution Press, 1989). -
In the United States: "The current pink for girls and blue for boys
wasn't uniform until the 1950's.

Here is another site backing the same color history.

"The preferred color to dress young boys in was pink! Blue was
reserved for girls as it was considered the paler, more dainty of the
two colors, and pink was thought to be the stronger (akin to red). It
was not until WWII that the colors were reversed and pink was used for
girls and blue for boys..." - Quote from Dress Maker Magazine
http://www.dressmaker.com...0200.shtml

"Jo B. Paoletti concludes that the effect of color-coded gender
differences (pink for girls, blue for boys) existed oppositely
initially..." - Quote from book review "The Material Culture of
Gender, the Gender of Material Culture" - Winterthur, Del.: Henry
Francis du Pont Winterthur Museum, 1997 - From the Journal of American
History - Please note that this is a cached page as the current page
is different:
http://tinyurl.com/iy31



I was right. Thanks wink
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Reply #58 posted 12/02/05 9:49am

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My mom always put my sister in purple or blue and me in either pink or turquoise. I only buy purple and blue for my neice now b/c those colors work best with her complexion.(like with my sister's)
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Reply #59 posted 12/02/05 1:18pm

Ahnold

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purpleizpassion said:

My mom always put my sister in purple or blue and me in either pink or turquoise. I only buy purple and blue for my neice now b/c those colors work best with her complexion.(like with my sister's)



Ah like yoor signahture!!!!


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