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Reply #120 posted 12/15/05 8:41am

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Dancelot said:

thanx biggrin


No problemo!
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Reply #121 posted 12/15/05 8:42am

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TheSmyrk said:

Jedi, honestly, dude. I thought I was a fan. But I was wrong. You, sir, are a fan.



You're a fan, I'm a friggin' geek! King of the dorks, I am! wink
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Reply #122 posted 12/15/05 8:43am

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You're a fan, I'm a friggin' geek! King of the dorks, I am! wink


Meanwhile, I'm at work fashioning a likeness of Wally West out of pipe cleaners. I get away with murder around here. Bwahahahahah....
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Reply #123 posted 12/15/05 9:26am

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TheSmyrk said:

JediMaster said:

You're a fan, I'm a friggin' geek! King of the dorks, I am! wink


Meanwhile, I'm at work fashioning a likeness of Wally West out of pipe cleaners. I get away with murder around here. Bwahahahahah....


giggle Wow! Okay, if you're doing that, then you definitely belong in my Kingdom of Dorkelvanyia!
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Reply #124 posted 12/15/05 10:47am

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Dancelot said:

Question:

I learned only recently that in one of the new Star Wars flicks the E.T. species makes some cameo appearence. So where's the connection coming from? any gossip about Spielberg & Lucas behind that? and since we can conclude that the Star wars universe is the same as ours (just another galaxy far far away...) in what time schedule does Star Wars take place to the present? 100 years ago? 1000? millions?

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The ET critters are seen in a brief shot in the senate scene in Episode I. Basically, some of the animators decided to stick them in there as a gag, since Lucas and Spielberg are best friends.

Now, officially speaking, they are in there, so that makes them part of the SW universe, and thus ET has a connection, though how so we don't know. How did the ET species wind up in our galaxy? Did they flee the rise of the Empire, or were they just out exploring? These questions are unlikely to ever get answered, although it adds a new wrinkle to things when ET spies the kid in the Yoda costume and says "home".

As for a timeline for the SW films in relation to ours, all that Lucas has ever confirmed is that they take place "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..."

Just a little something extra, but the ET computer model had been created for Progressive Insurance commercials first aired during the 1999 Super Bowl. Since they already had the computer model, it was easy to just plop the ET species into the senate scene. Progressive Insurance had signed a deal with Steven Spielberg's Amblin Entertainment to use his ET character as its safety spokesman. In fact, one of their road signs still stands to the entrance of the town I live in.

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Reply #125 posted 12/15/05 11:20am

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TMPletz said:

JediMaster said:



The ET critters are seen in a brief shot in the senate scene in Episode I. Basically, some of the animators decided to stick them in there as a gag, since Lucas and Spielberg are best friends.

Now, officially speaking, they are in there, so that makes them part of the SW universe, and thus ET has a connection, though how so we don't know. How did the ET species wind up in our galaxy? Did they flee the rise of the Empire, or were they just out exploring? These questions are unlikely to ever get answered, although it adds a new wrinkle to things when ET spies the kid in the Yoda costume and says "home".

As for a timeline for the SW films in relation to ours, all that Lucas has ever confirmed is that they take place "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..."

Just a little something extra, but the ET computer model had been created for Progressive Insurance commercials first aired during the 1999 Super Bowl. Since they already had the computer model, it was easy to just plop the ET species into the senate scene. Progressive Insurance had signed a deal with Steven Spielberg's Amblin Entertainment to use his ET character as its safety spokesman. In fact, one of their road signs still stands to the entrance of the town I live in.




Ah yes, I remember those ads. I never quite grasped what the hell ET had to do with car insurance, but oh well.
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Reply #126 posted 12/15/05 7:55pm

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JediMaster said:

Dancelot said:

Question:

I learned only recently that in one of the new Star Wars flicks the E.T. species makes some cameo appearence. So where's the connection coming from? any gossip about Spielberg & Lucas behind that? and since we can conclude that the Star wars universe is the same as ours (just another galaxy far far away...) in what time schedule does Star Wars take place to the present? 100 years ago? 1000? millions?


Now, officially speaking, they are in there, so that makes them part of the SW universe, and thus ET has a connection, though how so we don't know. How did the ET species wind up in our galaxy? Did they flee the rise of the Empire, or were they just out exploring? These questions are unlikely to ever get answered, although it adds a new wrinkle to things when ET spies the kid in the Yoda costume and says "home".

As for a timeline for the SW films in relation to ours, all that Lucas has ever confirmed is that they take place "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..."


I believe that the answer is simple.
The events which Lucas' historical epics depict are from hundreds of thousands of years ago. Since that time, humans perfected intergalactic travel (the Yuuzhan Vong's living worldships did it...albeit at a snail's pace. I'm sure that the Mon Calamari were able to perfect it). So they were able to colonize other galaxies. The Milky Way being one of them.
Ancient settlers landed on our planet and set up a brisk business harvesting the enormous hides from our native dinosaurs. Obviously they over-hunted them and - alas - no more dinos.
Then some catastrophe on the sole port city (Atlantis) caused the city (and all of it's technology) to sink into the ocean, prompting anyone with a space-faring vehicle to flee. Those abandoned had to fend for themselves, and Earth degenerated into a primitive planet (no longer noted on any star charts).
Of course, some Jedi chose to stay behind, and became ingrained in our folklore (Odin, Thor, Zeus, Hercules, Quetzalcoatl, Tezcatlipoca, Osiris, Vishnu, Cheng-Huang, etc., etc.).
Over the years we've had the occasional traveler who chances upon our planet, such as the unfortunate Rodians who crashed in Roswell, or (of course) the "E.T." gang who - even as we speak - are attempting to market Reese's Pieces in the intergalactic black market!
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Reply #127 posted 12/15/05 10:20pm

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Over the years we've had the occasional traveler who chances upon our planet, such as the unfortunate Rodians who crashed in Roswell, or (of course) the "E.T." gang who - even as we speak - are attempting to market Reese's Pieces in the intergalactic black market!

Actually, the Roswell aliens were Ferengi. (See Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode #480, "Little Green Men.") biggrin
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Reply #128 posted 12/16/05 3:30am

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TMPletz said:

PurpleJedi said:

Over the years we've had the occasional traveler who chances upon our planet, such as the unfortunate Rodians who crashed in Roswell, or (of course) the "E.T." gang who - even as we speak - are attempting to market Reese's Pieces in the intergalactic black market!

Actually, the Roswell aliens were Ferengi. (See Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode #480, "Little Green Men.") biggrin

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Reply #129 posted 12/16/05 6:04am

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PurpleJedi said:

JediMaster said:



Now, officially speaking, they are in there, so that makes them part of the SW universe, and thus ET has a connection, though how so we don't know. How did the ET species wind up in our galaxy? Did they flee the rise of the Empire, or were they just out exploring? These questions are unlikely to ever get answered, although it adds a new wrinkle to things when ET spies the kid in the Yoda costume and says "home".

As for a timeline for the SW films in relation to ours, all that Lucas has ever confirmed is that they take place "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..."


I believe that the answer is simple.
The events which Lucas' historical epics depict are from hundreds of thousands of years ago. Since that time, humans perfected intergalactic travel (the Yuuzhan Vong's living worldships did it...albeit at a snail's pace. I'm sure that the Mon Calamari were able to perfect it). So they were able to colonize other galaxies. The Milky Way being one of them.
Ancient settlers landed on our planet and set up a brisk business harvesting the enormous hides from our native dinosaurs. Obviously they over-hunted them and - alas - no more dinos.
Then some catastrophe on the sole port city (Atlantis) caused the city (and all of it's technology) to sink into the ocean, prompting anyone with a space-faring vehicle to flee. Those abandoned had to fend for themselves, and Earth degenerated into a primitive planet (no longer noted on any star charts).
Of course, some Jedi chose to stay behind, and became ingrained in our folklore (Odin, Thor, Zeus, Hercules, Quetzalcoatl, Tezcatlipoca, Osiris, Vishnu, Cheng-Huang, etc., etc.).
Over the years we've had the occasional traveler who chances upon our planet, such as the unfortunate Rodians who crashed in Roswell, or (of course) the "E.T." gang who - even as we speak - are attempting to market Reese's Pieces in the intergalactic black market!



EXCELLENT ANSWER!!! clapping Bravo!
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Reply #130 posted 12/16/05 6:06am

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TMPletz said:

PurpleJedi said:

Over the years we've had the occasional traveler who chances upon our planet, such as the unfortunate Rodians who crashed in Roswell, or (of course) the "E.T." gang who - even as we speak - are attempting to market Reese's Pieces in the intergalactic black market!

Actually, the Roswell aliens were Ferengi. (See Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode #480, "Little Green Men.") biggrin



nod Ahhh yes! I'm fairly sure they left one of their own behind:

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Reply #131 posted 12/16/05 11:43am

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Okay...I know the next sentai for 2006/7 is gonna be Boukenger. Since Disney bought Toei out, it's gonna suck major dickage and I thought they'd do something better seeing as how it's the 30th anniversary. So any idea on what the one after Boukenger is gonna be? If you can answer this shit, you're a god.
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Reply #132 posted 12/16/05 1:41pm

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TMPletz said:


Actually, the Roswell aliens were Ferengi. (See Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode #480, "Little Green Men.") biggrin



nod Ahhh yes! I'm fairly sure they left one of their own behind:


Or the result of mixed breeding, perhaps? hmmm
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Reply #133 posted 12/26/05 7:04pm

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One more Q 4 U;

Which ship would win in a space battle: Moya (from Farscape) or a Yuuzahn Vong coralskipper?
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Reply #134 posted 12/27/05 9:00am

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DynamicSavior said:

Okay...I know the next sentai for 2006/7 is gonna be Boukenger. Since Disney bought Toei out, it's gonna suck major dickage and I thought they'd do something better seeing as how it's the 30th anniversary. So any idea on what the one after Boukenger is gonna be? If you can answer this shit, you're a god.


I gotta admit, I'm a mere mortal, as I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Reply #135 posted 12/27/05 9:01am

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PurpleJedi said:

One more Q 4 U;

Which ship would win in a space battle: Moya (from Farscape) or a Yuuzahn Vong coralskipper?


Believe it or not, I've never seen Farscape boxed. I've heard really good things about it though. Still, I don't feel qualified to answer this question, since I only know the capablities of a coralskipper.
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Reply #136 posted 12/27/05 10:48am

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HELLO AGAIN JEDIMASTER...

Tell me, is it true that Jabba the Hutt speaks Quechua, a native American language of South America?
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Reply #137 posted 12/27/05 12:39pm

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papaa said:

HELLO AGAIN JEDIMASTER...

Tell me, is it true that Jabba the Hutt speaks Quechua, a native American language of South America?


Huttesse is based on Quechua.
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Reply #138 posted 12/27/05 12:53pm

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JUST SAW MINORITY REPORT AGAIN AND...

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you were one of those who lambasted the film for a number of holes in the storyline. Can you please point them out because yet again I thought it was pretty good stuff. Speilberg at his very best. razz wink

Did he stick closely to the novel?
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Reply #139 posted 12/27/05 1:32pm

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JUST SAW MINORITY REPORT AGAIN AND...

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you were one of those who lambasted the film for a number of holes in the storyline. Can you please point them out because yet again I thought it was pretty good stuff. Speilberg at his very best. razz wink

Did he stick closely to the novel?


No, it didn't stick to the novel.

I'm too lazy to cite all of them, so I've dug up some other folks observations that match mine:

Tom Cruise's wife gains entry into the jailhouse using her husband's eyeball - but he's already locked up inside, so his eye would not still have access to enter as it pleased. Any place anywhere that would have any sort of security system requiring anything from a simple passcode to a card key to a retinal scan, would immediately delete the user in such instances from all rights. And would also certainly report on any attempted use of such (retinal scan, pass code, whatever).



When Anderton jumps on the back of the jet packed cop, the thrust can sizzle burgers a foot away, but nothing happens to Anderton's jacket or shoes or anything. Even if he is hanging onto him on the side, he's still close enough. And how come the cops themselves don't get scorched by their own pack? I can believe them using asbestos pants in the uniform, but not Anderton's civvies


During the "greenhouse" scene Dr. Hineman explains to Tom Cruise how the Pre-Cogs came about from the children of drug abusing mothers using these words, "This was 10 years ago when neuroin first hit the streets...All of these kids were born with severe brain damage. Most died before the age of 12." If this only happened "10 years ago" how does she know they died "before the age of 12" and, more importantly for the film, how is it that Agatha and the twins are older than 10?


When Witwer invites Burgess over to discuss the problem of Anne Lively's murder, he gives Burgess Anderton's gun saying "We recovered that from Leo Crowe's hotel room", yet making no mention of why he is showing the gun. It makes no sense why he would bring the gun or give the gun to Burgess seeing as he would have to remove it from the evidence of the murder. There was no important evidence regarding the gun he would need to show Burgess and only seems to serve the plot (as Burgess uses the gun to kill Witwer at the end and the blame goes on Anderton). What complicates the matter further is that Witwer knows someone in the Pre-crime division was behind Anne Lively's murder, so to give a person who could very likely be involved in the murder a LOADED gun seems a little risky and unnecessary.


It's good to know that in the future we will be able to simply walk inside a car factory (without ANYBODY working, neither employees, security people, or an automated protection system), get inside a brand new car and just drive away...


The main problem with the movie is that the conspiracy against Cruise could never possibly work. Cruise uses the precognicient vision in order to track down the man he was supposedly going to kill. How could the precogs have possibly fortold a future that couldn't possibly occur without the existence of the precognition? It sets up an impossible loop. The second big problem occurs after Cruise kidnaps the most talented of the three precogs in order to extract the Minority Report from her brain. The movie was very explicit that the precogs only predicted murders AND require all three yet suddenly she's not only able to predict non murder futures she seems to be able to predict all possible futures. And why would the plot suddenly give her a power that seems to dwarf the ability to see future murders? The answer is plot convenience. In one part she even is given the ability to see visions of futures that couldn't possible occur and just as suddenly as her omniscience arrives it vanishes as needed to push forward the plot. The third problem is that the final precognition is clearly wrong despite the movies insistence that the precogs are never wrong. A `murder' did NOT occur unless suicide is considered murder and the precogs vision was completely different from the events shown. It's a bewildering finale to a movie filled with plot holes.


Spielberg has become a lazy storyteller in recent years. He establishes points, then contradicts them with no explanation (War of the Worlds had just as many plot holes and contradictions). He often will make a point of establishing a rule, then turn around and ignore it later in the film. This, combined with Cruise's characters in these films being extremely unlikeable, has really soured me on the more recent stuff. In fact, if it weren't for the fact that I so enjoyed Catch Me If You Can, I would probably written him off and quit going to see his stuff.
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Reply #140 posted 12/27/05 2:18pm

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WHO'S THE MOST LOUSY STORYTELLER?

Spielberg, Zemeckis, or Lucas?

Also, apologies if you've answered this before but why is Vader such a pussy in RoJ? Such a malevolent force in ESB evolves into a pathetic shell in the final movie. And if he was so keen in joining forces with Luke why didn't he just mow down the Emperor? -- it's not as if Luke woulda stopped him.

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Reply #141 posted 12/27/05 3:06pm

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JediMaster said:

DynamicSavior said:

Okay...I know the next sentai for 2006/7 is gonna be Boukenger. Since Disney bought Toei out, it's gonna suck major dickage and I thought they'd do something better seeing as how it's the 30th anniversary. So any idea on what the one after Boukenger is gonna be? If you can answer this shit, you're a god.


I gotta admit, I'm a mere mortal, as I have no idea what you're talking about.


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Reply #142 posted 12/27/05 4:08pm

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Oh wise-one, what is the latest info on 'Ghost Rider'?
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Reply #143 posted 12/28/05 6:21am

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papaa said:

WHO'S THE MOST LOUSY STORYTELLER?

Spielberg, Zemeckis, or Lucas?

Also, apologies if you've answered this before but why is Vader such a pussy in RoJ? Such a malevolent force in ESB evolves into a pathetic shell in the final movie. And if he was so keen in joining forces with Luke why didn't he just mow down the Emperor? -- it's not as if Luke woulda stopped him.

Muchas gracias.


None of those three are truly "lousy". They've just lost some of their edge over the years. Spielberg, to me, is the one who has fallen the farthest from greatness. He used to be the best of the three you mentioned, but now I feel he's the worst.

As we've seen from the prequels, Vader is a man in conflict with himself. He can be a major badass when he wants to be, but he winds up kissing Darth Sidious's ass much of the time. Sidious is an incredibly powerful Sith Lord, and Vader knows he needs an ace in his deck (like Luke) in order to take him on. He is potentially more powerful than Sidious, but ol' Palpatine has way more knowledge of the Dark Side. If Vader could turn Luke, then he'd have someone powerful enough on his side to risk overthrowing the Emperor.

Why didn't he let Luke kill him when he had the chance? Simple: he knew Luke couldn't do it at that point, and that Sidious would wind up killing him. He wanted to turn Luke, train him, and THEN depose the Emperor. He simply wasn't going to be able to take on Palpatine without losing his own life in the process (which is exactly what winds up happening when he decides to save his son's life).

Ultimately, Vader's conflict with his son on Bespin awakens the compassionate, good person that Anakin had been. The long-buried, benevolent side of Vader begins to re-emerge, thrusting him into an inner-conflict. In the months between ESB and ROTJ, Vader has found himself struggling with emotions he had long-since repressed, thus making him rather unsure of his actions.
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Reply #144 posted 12/28/05 6:21am

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DynamicSavior said:

JediMaster said:



I gotta admit, I'm a mere mortal, as I have no idea what you're talking about.


YES!! OWNED!!!


Does this have something to do with Power Rangers?
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Reply #145 posted 12/28/05 6:28am

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Oh wise-one, what is the latest info on 'Ghost Rider'?


The latest word is that the director, Mark Steven Johnson, went to the studio and basically told them he was completely unhappy with the special effects work. He asked for more time to get the CGI right, and amazingly enough they agreed. Rather than force him to hurry up and release the film (as they did when he was working on Daredevil), they are actually going to give Johnson's team the time to make the special effects decent.

Principal photography has long since wrapped, and Johnson already did a rough cut. Now, it is just a matter of refining the effects. The studio has bumped the flick back to February 2007. Yes, it's a long-ass time to wait, but I'd rather them not rush and do it right. If the CGI isn't right, the whole movie would be a disaster.
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Reply #146 posted 12/28/05 6:33pm

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I've never seen Farscape boxed


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Run out to Blockbuster ASAP and rent all of the seasons!!!

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Reply #147 posted 12/29/05 6:42am

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PurpleJedi said:

JediMaster said:

I've never seen Farscape boxed


omfg

omfg

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Run out to Blockbuster ASAP and rent all of the seasons!!!

omfg


Actually, that's the problem. All the video stores near me either don't have it, or they're missing episodes.
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Reply #148 posted 12/29/05 7:37am

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Who would have been bitchslapped more at school?



Orko



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Snarf?
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Reply #149 posted 12/29/05 7:44am

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JimmyNothing said:

Who would have been bitchslapped more at school?



Orko



or






Snarf?



Well, both certainly deserved it, but Orko deserves to have his ass-whipped a hundred times or so!
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