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Reply #30 posted 11/05/05 10:53pm

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Terilicious said:

DiscoDiva said:


it's kind of like a occult if you think about it

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I know what you mean. I tried to stay away from Wal-Mart, but they sucked me in with those prices and all the selections. Even though I think it's kinda weird buying your groceries at a store that also sells clothing and guns, I couldn't help myself. I can buy a 21 oz. box of BRAND NAME cereal for $2.44. At other local stores that very same cereal costs $5.69! Damn you Sam Walton!



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Reply #31 posted 11/05/05 11:00pm

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luv4u said:

Terilicious said:




I know what you mean. I tried to stay away from Wal-Mart, but they sucked me in with those prices and all the selections. Even though I think it's kinda weird buying your groceries at a store that also sells clothing and guns, I couldn't help myself. I can buy a 21 oz. box of BRAND NAME cereal for $2.44. At other local stores that very same cereal costs $5.69! Damn you Sam Walton!



Walmart does not sell guns here

Damn good thing too. It's one thing to believe you've got the right to bear arms rolleyes but it's quite another to be able to buy a gun at the same store you buy clothing and children's toys in. That's just fucking scary.
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Reply #32 posted 11/06/05 12:39am

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luv4u said:




Walmart does not sell guns here

Damn good thing too. It's one thing to believe you've got the right to bear arms rolleyes but it's quite another to be able to buy a gun at the same store you buy clothing and children's toys in. That's just fucking scary.


Why is that more scary then buying a gun anywhere else? It's not like you accidentally buy a gun or it accidentally gets put in the wrong shopping bag already loaded and ready to fire.
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Reply #33 posted 11/06/05 12:47am

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Saying that cartboy shouldn't be a career is dismissive? You are just trying to take the morally highroad in this argument by making me looking bad to people who hadn't read my comments.


I am certainly not ashamed of this statement.

"I will say it again. Is cartboy a job that people should be able to make a career out of and collect full benefits for for 35 years at a salary high enough to support a family? Of course not. It's a job for high school kids but thats not what these bleeding heart types want to believe."


"Job for high school kids" ? Maybe so. But low-paying jobs are the ones you have to bust your ass at. The lower the pay, the harder you have to work. I'm talking about physical labour, not sitting on your ass at a computer all day. I worked for minimum wage as a dishwasher -which, btw, in my area does not constitute a living wage -and what did i get for it? I fucked up my already arthritic wrist and hand joints, and my marks in college dropped noticably, and because of the amount of work I was doing -over 40 hours a week -I gained 15 pounds of muscle but my body fat dropped far below a healthy number for a woman my age.

Now I work two jobs, also low-paying and labour-intensive -and may have to go out and get a third one.

Ideally jobs like these are only short term -I certainly don't plan on doing this my entire life -but "cartboys" and everyone else who has to work the shitty jobs most people think they're too good for damn well deserve benefits. There's more health risks in jobs like these than say, a CEO -so why shouldn't we?


Everyone (most people) work multiple low paying jobs to work their way through school and the idea is you are rewarded later on. I certainly had my share of tough jobs as I made my way through school without any government or parental help by the way.

BTW CEO's have extremely high health risks due to the extreme stress. They are like walking heart attacks waiting to happen. Someone posted some statistics and CEO's were the unhealthiest people in the country. Also, people don't just become CEO. It takes years of schooling and years of working your way up the ladder which includes long hours and usually involves relocating a couple of times and other non-family friendly occurances.
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Reply #34 posted 11/06/05 1:46am

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, i believe that your dismissive way of talking about the people who serve you as a Walmart shopper does not reflect well on you. [/b]


Saying that cartboy shouldn't be a career is dismissive? You are just trying to take the moral highroad in this argument by making me looking bad to people who hadn't read my comments.


I am certainly not ashamed of this statement.

"I will say it again. Is cartboy a job that people should be able to make a career out of and collect full benefits for for 35 years at a salary high enough to support a family? Of course not. It's a job for high school kids but thats not what these bleeding heart types want to believe."
[Edited 11/6/05 0:38am]


proving my point again, i see... lol
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Reply #35 posted 11/06/05 1:47am

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I'm actually in corporate retail myself and my company (Mervyns) isn't doing anything different based on heating, etc - we've definitely ramped up advertising over the last 6 months, but everybody's been doing that. Maybe some retailers are banking on a soft 4th quarter, but we're pretty confident we're going to do some amazing sales. nod


Trying to make money is evil.


no, trying to make money on the backs of people who can least afford it, while exploiting workers and suppliers in the process - THAT is evil.
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Reply #36 posted 11/06/05 7:56am

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Walmart is shady...they tried to bring up their image by
holding a press conference stating that they were in favor
of a higher minimum wage and fair health benefits.
The next day, an internal memo was revealed to state that
they were to "systematically weed out" all handicap and
unhealthy employees, in order to save on health costs.

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Reply #37 posted 11/06/05 8:59am

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wal-mart and stores like them are the devil. working their employees just shy of enough hours to earn benefits. paying ridiculous wages to both, employees in the stores and merchandisers whose products ae on the shelves. because they are such a big and important vendor, they can underbid every mom and pop store thereby shutting them down. wal-mart rapes small town american stores.

one of their biggest factories is in shengzen, China...a communist nation! now, don't get me wrong, i'm not going to spew the terrors of communism here (there is sarcasmin that line, before some of you start flaming me). i'm just going to point out that wal-mart claims to be an all american store with interest in the american way yet here they are setting up shop in a communist nation, supporting that economy and all the while hurting the people in their own nation. now they're fighting to have no responsibility at all when it comes to health care.

they are a disgusting company, plain and simple. put your scruples and integrity before your wallet, people.
[Edited 11/6/05 9:05am]
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Reply #38 posted 11/06/05 9:01am

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Believe it or NOT I Have NEVER BEEN to WALMART. They have a SUPER WALMART BUt I NEVER Went. I like TARGET ALOT. But I basically am going to more BOUTIQUES LATELY..
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Reply #39 posted 11/06/05 10:27am

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meow85 said:

luv4u said:




Walmart does not sell guns here

Damn good thing too. It's one thing to believe you've got the right to bear arms rolleyes but it's quite another to be able to buy a gun at the same store you buy clothing and children's toys in. That's just fucking scary.


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Reply #40 posted 11/06/05 11:12am

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SassyBritches said:

wal-mart and stores like them are the devil. working their employees just shy of enough hours to earn benefits. paying ridiculous wages to both, employees in the stores and merchandisers whose products ae on the shelves. because they are such a big and important vendor, they can underbid every mom and pop store thereby shutting them down. wal-mart rapes small town american stores.

one of their biggest factories is in shengzen, China...a communist nation! now, don't get me wrong, i'm not going to spew the terrors of communism here (there is sarcasmin that line, before some of you start flaming me). i'm just going to point out that wal-mart claims to be an all american store with interest in the american way yet here they are setting up shop in a communist nation, supporting that economy and all the while hurting the people in their own nation. now they're fighting to have no responsibility at all when it comes to health care.

they are a disgusting company, plain and simple. put your scruples and integrity before your wallet, people.[Edited 11/6/05 9:05am]


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Reply #41 posted 11/06/05 12:27pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

SassyBritches said:

wal-mart and stores like them are the devil. working their employees just shy of enough hours to earn benefits. paying ridiculous wages to both, employees in the stores and merchandisers whose products ae on the shelves. because they are such a big and important vendor, they can underbid every mom and pop store thereby shutting them down. wal-mart rapes small town american stores.

one of their biggest factories is in shengzen, China...a communist nation! now, don't get me wrong, i'm not going to spew the terrors of communism here (there is sarcasmin that line, before some of you start flaming me). i'm just going to point out that wal-mart claims to be an all american store with interest in the american way yet here they are setting up shop in a communist nation, supporting that economy and all the while hurting the people in their own nation. now they're fighting to have no responsibility at all when it comes to health care.

they are a disgusting company, plain and simple. put your scruples and integrity before your wallet, people.[Edited 11/6/05 9:05am]


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Agreed. I will support a locally owned small business any day of the week over Wal*Mart. I hate those bastages. It's worth it to me to spend the money for the difference in customer service. The local pool store can test my pool water and tell me what I need. The local nursery can help me with my landscaping needs, or just tell me what to do for a struggling houseplant. The local supermarket has people that will carry my groceries out and load them into my car which was quite a convenience for me when I had a broken ankle. I don't understand how people think Wal*Mart is so convenient when they have crap for customer service. Even if I didn't believe they were raping other businesses and communities, it would still be worth it to give my money to people who provide decent customer service.

I think my husband finally believes me. He bought a big screen tv and surround sound entertainment center from Wal*Mart this week because he thought it was cheap. He actually bought the display model since the manager dropped the price for a scratch. Well, the store lost the factory remote and gave us a universal remote which is useless... it only turns the tv off and on and adjusts the volume, but doesn't let you into the factory settings. We've spent all week listening to excuses about whose responsibility it is to order another remote, when to expect it, wait a minute, you need to talk to someone else, no, we didn't order it yet, but I'll tell the person in charge... ugh! From what we're told, we need this remote to get into the factory settings to enable the surround sound system and dvd player and it's just all one big mess. I'll bet if we'd bought it from an electronics dealer that has experience with this sort of thing, it would have been sorted by now, and we'd have some kind of technical support other than an 18 year old kid shrugging his shoulders and saying, "I dunno." I think my husband has just about decided Wal*Mart just isn't worth it. I would never have bought it there to begin with.

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Reply #42 posted 11/06/05 2:16pm

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I hate WalMart. I had bad experiences with their photo lab being hypersensitive and refusing to develop photos that weren't even obscene and didn't contain any nudity. The place is also packed with trashy obnoxious people. It's not worth dealing with that shit to save a buck or two.

With regards to the $400 laptop, places like Staples, Best Buy, and Dell have been running great deals on laptops all throughout the year. Several times I've seen ads for $499 laptops from Dell. Why put yourself through all that hell on the day after Thanksgiving. Look around online, and you can probabbly find deals just as good, and even have them sent to your house.

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Reply #43 posted 11/06/05 5:48pm

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I had to divorce that bitch hmph! Too shady to its employees...


That's about where I am, too, CSq. But, it's hard. I live right around the corner. I'm well aware of its mistreatment of employees, its use of cheap (occasionally illegal) labor, its status as being China's six-largest trading partner... omfg

But... It... It... It be calling my name....

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Reply #44 posted 11/06/05 6:53pm

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meow85 said:



"Job for high school kids" ? Maybe so. But low-paying jobs are the ones you have to bust your ass at. The lower the pay, the harder you have to work. I'm talking about physical labour, not sitting on your ass at a computer all day. I worked for minimum wage as a dishwasher -which, btw, in my area does not constitute a living wage -and what did i get for it? I fucked up my already arthritic wrist and hand joints, and my marks in college dropped noticably, and because of the amount of work I was doing -over 40 hours a week -I gained 15 pounds of muscle but my body fat dropped far below a healthy number for a woman my age.

Now I work two jobs, also low-paying and labour-intensive -and may have to go out and get a third one.

Ideally jobs like these are only short term -I certainly don't plan on doing this my entire life -but "cartboys" and everyone else who has to work the shitty jobs most people think they're too good for damn well deserve benefits. There's more health risks in jobs like these than say, a CEO -so why shouldn't we?


Everyone (most people) work multiple low paying jobs to work their way through school and the idea is you are rewarded later on. I certainly had my share of tough jobs as I made my way through school without any government or parental help by the way.

BTW CEO's have extremely high health risks due to the extreme stress. They are like walking heart attacks waiting to happen. Someone posted some statistics and CEO's were the unhealthiest people in the country. Also, people don't just become CEO. It takes years of schooling and years of working your way up the ladder which includes long hours and usually involves relocating a couple of times and other non-family friendly occurances.


Let's just say this.....you may have not had help for college (I didn't either), but you were raised to go after it, right? Forgive me for sounding like a bleeding heart, but every situation is different. Every demographic is different, and every socioeconomic situation is different. And when you get high and mighty about how hard you worked to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, you kind of sound like a real ass....and dare I say a political thing....republican.
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Reply #45 posted 11/06/05 6:56pm

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SassyBritches said:

wal-mart and stores like them are the devil. working their employees just shy of enough hours to earn benefits. paying ridiculous wages to both, employees in the stores and merchandisers whose products ae on the shelves. because they are such a big and important vendor, they can underbid every mom and pop store thereby shutting them down. wal-mart rapes small town american stores.

one of their biggest factories is in shengzen, China...a communist nation! now, don't get me wrong, i'm not going to spew the terrors of communism here (there is sarcasmin that line, before some of you start flaming me). i'm just going to point out that wal-mart claims to be an all american store with interest in the american way yet here they are setting up shop in a communist nation, supporting that economy and all the while hurting the people in their own nation. now they're fighting to have no responsibility at all when it comes to health care.

they are a disgusting company, plain and simple. put your scruples and integrity before your wallet, people.
[Edited 11/6/05 9:05am]


There is also a trend that you will notice with Wal MArt. They are now planting them in small cities and the store literally sucks all biz out of all mom and pops and other small businesses. Of course many other outlets do the same, but I usually think of Wal MArt when it comes to the deterioration of small city economics.
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Reply #46 posted 11/06/05 7:00pm

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I have to say it again... I love Target, dude! The stores are so much cleaner! You can buy shoes that don't look like they cam from Wal MArt!!! YEAH!!!
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Reply #47 posted 11/06/05 7:03pm

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all the discount stores are the same. you don't really think your getting a discount for nothing, do you? if people are truly defining themselves as bleeding heart liberals, its time to put your money where your mouth is. which is more important to you?
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Reply #48 posted 11/06/05 7:09pm

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Reply #49 posted 11/06/05 7:18pm

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I don't hate Wal-Mart but give me Target any day of the week. Cleaner, nicer people and not so crowded.
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Reply #50 posted 11/07/05 1:14am

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ThreadBare said:

CalhounSq said:

I had to divorce that bitch hmph! Too shady to its employees...


That's about where I am, too, CSq. But, it's hard. I live right around the corner. I'm well aware of its mistreatment of employees, its use of cheap (occasionally illegal) labor, its status as being China's six-largest trading partner... omfg

But... It... It... It be calling my name....

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I hear you. The other night I drove from work to the 24hr Walmart as my final time shopping there but when I drove up I just couldn't go in sad So I went back home & hit Target a few days later. I just can't do it anymore. It hurts missing those bargains but it hurts the workers more confused
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Reply #51 posted 11/07/05 6:10am

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lovemachine said:

jerseykrs said:


thumbs up! thumbs up! thumbs up! thumbs up!

and none of that silly bullshit corporate evilness of walmart...I mean, I'm sure it is there to a point, but if people would take the time to read about wal mart, you wouldn't love it so much.


Rembember the sources though. Liberals have targeted walmart and a lot of stuff they are writing isn't fair. I will say it again. Is cartboy a job that people should be able to make a career out of and collect full benefits for for 35 years at a salary high enough to support a family? Of course not. It's a job for high school kids but thats not what these bleeding heart types want to believe. They are out to save the world.

Also, its not any harder to get a job at Target then Walmart but people still line up for jobs at Walmart. Its another case of liberals trying to protect people who don't need or want protecting.


dude, they don't hire many high school kids. they deliberately hire poor folks who can barely make ends meet, and who find it hard to get jobs elsewhere. they have a "keep em hungry" mentality.
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Reply #52 posted 11/07/05 9:00am

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jerseykrs said:

KatSkrizzle said:

I actually prefer Target. Usually no looooong lines at check out. Cleaner. Friendlier staff (perhaps I've been living in the "real" part of the city too long) They also have some pretty wicked shoes that can pass as nine west n stuff.

I love Target

thumbs up! thumbs up! thumbs up! thumbs up!

and none of that silly bullshit corporate evilness of walmart...I mean, I'm sure it is there to a point, but if people would take the time to read about wal mart, you wouldn't love it so much.


Target isn't so innocent either. They allow their pharmacists to refuse to dispense birth control and emergency contraception to female customers if the pharmacist objects on religious grounds. They also claim that its employees have a right to discriminate against its customers provided the discrimination is motivated by an employee's religious beliefs. Read it here:
http://americablog.blogsp...their.html
http://www.plannedparenth...tinvolved/
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sextonseven said:

jerseykrs said:


thumbs up! thumbs up! thumbs up! thumbs up!

and none of that silly bullshit corporate evilness of walmart...I mean, I'm sure it is there to a point, but if people would take the time to read about wal mart, you wouldn't love it so much.


Target isn't so innocent either. They allow their pharmacists to refuse to dispense birth control and emergency contraception to female customers if the pharmacist objects on religious grounds. They also claim that its employees have a right to discriminate against its customers provided the discrimination is motivated by an employee's religious beliefs. Read it here:
http://americablog.blogsp...their.html
http://www.plannedparenth...tinvolved/


I'll give my reply over here too. giggle

Actually, this is somewhat inaccurate. Target is pretty pissed at Planned Parenthood right now for spreading misinformation. Target's official policy is they will allow a pharmacist to not fill a perscription if it is against their religious beliefs, however, that pharmacist is obligated to have another pharmacist working there fill it, or in an extreme example, arrange for it to be filled at another nearby pharmacy, all quickly and efficiently for the guest. Unfortunately, when Planned Parenthood sent someone into the store to test it this didn't happen at one store. Target has disciplined that particular store.

As far as I'm concerned, I can continue to shop there in good conscience. And I'm pretty adament about abortion/birth control rights.
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Reply #54 posted 11/07/05 9:28am

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Carrie, you're the shit. Just thought I'd tell you that smile
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Carrie, you're the shit. Just thought I'd tell you that smile


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Reply #56 posted 11/07/05 10:01am

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Ashtheking said:

lovemachine said:



Rembember the sources though. Liberals have targeted walmart and a lot of stuff they are writing isn't fair. I will say it again. Is cartboy a job that people should be able to make a career out of and collect full benefits for for 35 years at a salary high enough to support a family? Of course not. It's a job for high school kids but thats not what these bleeding heart types want to believe. They are out to save the world.

Also, its not any harder to get a job at Target then Walmart but people still line up for jobs at Walmart. Its another case of liberals trying to protect people who don't need or want protecting.


dude, they don't hire many high school kids. they deliberately hire poor folks who can barely make ends meet, and who find it hard to get jobs elsewhere. they have a "keep em hungry" mentality.
[Edited 11/7/05 6:12am]


They hired this guy....

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Reply #57 posted 11/07/05 10:35am

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knock yourself out - if you love Wal-Mart so much, then Wal-Mart you deserve!

btw, i heard on the news today that Wal-Mart and other retailers are starting their holiday sales early because they believe that once people get their heating bills, they will curb their holiday spending. doesn't get much more opportunistic than that.


In the paper today it said that Second Harvest charity has already started Holiday drives two weeks ealier then planned because they wanted to hit people up before their heating bills arrived and before the other charities got to them? Is Second Harvest food drive opportunistic as well?
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Reply #58 posted 11/07/05 10:38am

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lovemachine said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:

knock yourself out - if you love Wal-Mart so much, then Wal-Mart you deserve!

btw, i heard on the news today that Wal-Mart and other retailers are starting their holiday sales early because they believe that once people get their heating bills, they will curb their holiday spending. doesn't get much more opportunistic than that.


In the paper today it said that Second Harvest charity has already started Holiday drives two weeks ealier then planned because they wanted to hit people up before their heating bills arrived and before the other charities got to them? Is Second Harvest food drive opportunistic as well?


you are not seriously comparing Second Harvest with Wal-Mart, are you?
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IrresistibleB1tch said:

lovemachine said:



In the paper today it said that Second Harvest charity has already started Holiday drives two weeks ealier then planned because they wanted to hit people up before their heating bills arrived and before the other charities got to them? Is Second Harvest food drive opportunistic as well?


you are not seriously comparing Second Harvest with Wal-Mart, are you?


Well in this case they seem to have something in common. I just want to know if you think they are being opportunistic by hitting people up before heating bills come or other charities contact them?




On a side note why do you type everything in bold? Do you think you are really important?
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