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Thread started 10/30/05 8:44pm

RipHer2Shreds

You Can't Kill the Boogie Man!

The first movie to ever really scare me remains to this day one of my very favorite movies - Halloween. John Carpenter's second feature film became an instant classic that has since, sadly, been lumped into the same category as the inferior and innumerable imitators that have followed it (including a slew of its own bad sequels).

Cinematographer Dean Cundey would later go on to work with Steven Spielberg and garner an Oscar nomination. His work behind the lens in Halloween is essential to its success; the equal use of both foreground and background imagery was crucial to create suspense as well as making Spring in southern California look as close to Midwest autumn as possible.

I've geeked out enough about this one (and believe me, I could go on). The last three images were filmed exclusively for the 1981 NBC broadcast of Halloween. After editing the film to make it safe for network televsion, the Peacock asked John Carpenter (who was already on hand for the filming of Halloween II) if he would film an extra 12 minutes of scenes to pad the trimmed running time. With the help of the original cast members, he filmed three more scenes to be included in the television cut.






Check out the wrench in his hand - he couldn't break the window barehanded
























Television cut scenes:





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Reply #1 posted 10/30/05 9:36pm

ufoclub

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weren't some of those added scenes filmed after the fact? this is a brilliant movie. started a whole wave of copycat films... started a genre....
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Reply #2 posted 10/30/05 10:52pm

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The SISTER on the door reminds me of th MURDER from The Shining movie. I hate the Boogie man... the only good thing about the boogie man was the song Blame it on the Boogie...i just can't, i just can't, i just can't control my feet...by MJ
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Reply #3 posted 10/31/05 3:37am

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I just love the widescreen format. It even makes a low budget movie look like an epic and our horizontal world fits so nicely into it.

Lately when I've shot stills, I've framed them so that I can crop them into a widescreen look later. I'm very pleased with the results. thumbs up!
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Reply #4 posted 10/31/05 3:55am

RipHer2Shreds

ufoclub said:

weren't some of those added scenes filmed after the fact? this is a brilliant movie. started a whole wave of copycat films... started a genre....

nod Did you even even my nerdy rant? lol
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Reply #5 posted 10/31/05 4:05am

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RipHer2Shreds said:




i dunno why but this scene always scared me the most ...after he was pushed and michael shows up. lurking
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Reply #6 posted 10/31/05 4:54am

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Love it of course. nod They showed Halloween II the other night here in Holland, but I was too tired to stay up for it. sad I did watch the uncut Exorcist though that came on before it. biggrin

Oh and HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!!!

"I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven
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Reply #7 posted 10/31/05 5:52am

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minneapolisgenius said:

Love it of course. nod They showed Halloween II the other night here in Holland, but I was too tired to stay up for it. sad I did watch the uncut Exorcist though that came on before it. biggrin

Oh and HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!!!


Yeah, I even like that crappy slow ass sequel! lol Jamie Lee's wearing a really bad wig in it. It took place the same night as the original, but they had to use a wig because Jamie Lee's hairstyle had changed since then - she'd had it feathered giggle
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Reply #8 posted 10/31/05 6:34am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

minneapolisgenius said:

Love it of course. nod They showed Halloween II the other night here in Holland, but I was too tired to stay up for it. sad I did watch the uncut Exorcist though that came on before it. biggrin

Oh and HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!!!


Yeah, I even like that crappy slow ass sequel! lol Jamie Lee's wearing a really bad wig in it. It took place the same night as the original, but they had to use a wig because Jamie Lee's hairstyle had changed since then - she'd had it feathered giggle

lol lol at the wig. nod I watched the first 10 minutes and then fell asleep. sad I have seen it before of course, but not for a long time. I always think of it as "the hospital one". biggrin
"I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven
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Reply #9 posted 10/31/05 7:13am

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I haven't watched this in probably 12 years.


I think I'm watching Rocky Horror Picture Show tonight, in the theatre with a bunch crazy people throwing stuff.
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Reply #10 posted 10/31/05 7:34am

ufoclub

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they fucked up the music in Halloween 2
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Reply #11 posted 10/31/05 7:37am

ufoclub

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sorry... actually, that scene of those two looking out the door was scary in my memory... where are these scenes available?

RipHer2Shreds said:

ufoclub said:

weren't some of those added scenes filmed after the fact? this is a brilliant movie. started a whole wave of copycat films... started a genre....

nod Did you even even my nerdy rant? lol
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Reply #12 posted 10/31/05 7:43am

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ufoclub said:

they fucked up the music in Halloween 2



John Carpenter was hot peformin his own soundtracks!
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Reply #13 posted 10/31/05 8:09am

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My absolute favorite horror film of all time! The only one that can still give me the creeps after watching it numerous times over the years.
jedi

Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #14 posted 10/31/05 8:12am

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ufoclub said:

sorry... actually, that scene of those two looking out the door was scary in my memory... where are these scenes available?




Order it here:

http://www.amazon.com/exe...ance&s=dvd
[Edited 10/31/05 8:15am]
jedi

Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #15 posted 10/31/05 8:17am

JediMaster

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CinisterCee said:

ufoclub said:

they fucked up the music in Halloween 2



John Carpenter was hot peformin his own soundtracks!



But Carpenter didn't do the music for II. That flick featured a really stupid electronic version of the theme. Sucked!
jedi

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Reply #16 posted 10/31/05 8:18am

RipHer2Shreds

JediMaster said:

ufoclub said:

sorry... actually, that scene of those two looking out the door was scary in my memory... where are these scenes available?




Order it here:

http://www.amazon.com/exe...ance&s=dvd
[Edited 10/31/05 8:15am]

You just beat me to the punch! lol
If you still can't get a hold of it, let me know smile
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Reply #17 posted 10/31/05 8:21am

JediMaster

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RipHer2Shreds said:

JediMaster said:





Order it here:

http://www.amazon.com/exe...ance&s=dvd
[Edited 10/31/05 8:15am]

You just beat me to the punch! lol
If you still can't get a hold of it, let me know smile


I've taken to watching this version the past few years. I still like the theatrical cut, but this version just gives me more Halloween goodness!
jedi

Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #18 posted 10/31/05 8:30am

RipHer2Shreds

JediMaster said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


You just beat me to the punch! lol
If you still can't get a hold of it, let me know smile


I've taken to watching this version the past few years. I still like the theatrical cut, but this version just gives me more Halloween goodness!

I've had every issue of Halloween - all the VHS, the laserdisc (still my favorite issue) and the various DVDs. The first DVD release with the TV scenes was actually a big deal. They were presumed to have been shot on tape in television aspect ratio, but they just happened across the original widescreen negatives in a vault.
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Reply #19 posted 10/31/05 9:34am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

JediMaster said:



I've taken to watching this version the past few years. I still like the theatrical cut, but this version just gives me more Halloween goodness!

I've had every issue of Halloween - all the VHS, the laserdisc (still my favorite issue) and the various DVDs. The first DVD release with the TV scenes was actually a big deal. They were presumed to have been shot on tape in television aspect ratio, but they just happened across the original widescreen negatives in a vault.


Man, I remember trying to track down that DVD. I was so happy when they released it individually a year or two later, since that pressing went out of print incredibly fast. It was fantastic to see those scenes, and in wide-screen no less!
jedi

Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #20 posted 10/31/05 9:36am

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the music alone freaked me out. I love this film. For the low budget at the time, it was really well done. I don't think most lunp this into all of the other slasher movies as this remains a classic horror flick (and the sequel is good too). I do recall the NBC one coming on...they would play that music during hte commercials and I would have to get out of the dark basement.

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #21 posted 10/31/05 9:39am

RipHer2Shreds

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the music alone freaked me out. I love this film. For the low budget at the time, it was really well done. I don't think most lunp this into all of the other slasher movies as this remains a classic horror flick (and the sequel is good too). I do recall the NBC one coming on...they would play that music during hte commercials and I would have to get out of the dark basement.

You'd be surprised. A lot of people can't distinguish this film from Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th. I know a good number of people that assume that since the others are bad, this one is too.
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Reply #22 posted 10/31/05 9:49am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

superspaceboy said:

the music alone freaked me out. I love this film. For the low budget at the time, it was really well done. I don't think most lunp this into all of the other slasher movies as this remains a classic horror flick (and the sequel is good too). I do recall the NBC one coming on...they would play that music during hte commercials and I would have to get out of the dark basement.

You'd be surprised. A lot of people can't distinguish this film from Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th. I know a good number of people that assume that since the others are bad, this one is too.


But the two you just mention aren't that bad at all. Different filming styles and certainly less "serious" that Halloween (nor had the acting behind it), but to put these 3 together, isn't necessa a bad thing IMHO. All 3 are considered classics in thier own right(as well as being scary). Now if you had said sleepaway Camp or something like that I could see having issues.

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #23 posted 10/31/05 9:56am

RipHer2Shreds

superspaceboy said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


You'd be surprised. A lot of people can't distinguish this film from Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th. I know a good number of people that assume that since the others are bad, this one is too.


But the two you just mention aren't that bad at all. Different filming styles and certainly less "serious" that Halloween (nor had the acting behind it), but to put these 3 together, isn't necessa a bad thing IMHO. All 3 are considered classics in thier own right(as well as being scary). Now if you had said sleepaway Camp or something like that I could see having issues.

Well, I like them all but I don't think Friday the 13th is a good film. lol
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Reply #24 posted 10/31/05 12:30pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

superspaceboy said:



But the two you just mention aren't that bad at all. Different filming styles and certainly less "serious" that Halloween (nor had the acting behind it), but to put these 3 together, isn't necessa a bad thing IMHO. All 3 are considered classics in thier own right(as well as being scary). Now if you had said sleepaway Camp or something like that I could see having issues.

Well, I like them all but I don't think Friday the 13th is a good film. lol


No, Ft13th was, essentially, just Halloween set in the woods. The sequels are even moreso, as Jason is just a clone of Michael Myers.

NoES is a classic, even though the sequels degenerated into parodies of the original.

Still, none hold a candle to the original Halloween. So many slasher films since have ripped it off, it isn't even funny.
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Reply #25 posted 10/31/05 12:34pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

superspaceboy said:

the music alone freaked me out. I love this film. For the low budget at the time, it was really well done. I don't think most lunp this into all of the other slasher movies as this remains a classic horror flick (and the sequel is good too). I do recall the NBC one coming on...they would play that music during hte commercials and I would have to get out of the dark basement.

You'd be surprised. A lot of people can't distinguish this film from Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th. I know a good number of people that assume that since the others are bad, this one is too.


Unfortunately, too many people judge this flick by the lame sequels. To me, its a sin to compare this one to The Curse of Michael Myers.

Actually, the second film is decent (not great), the fourth is creepy, and H2O ain't bad. All the rest are craptacular. It pisses me off that 5 and 6 had to be so bad, as 4 really set up a good storyarc that could have really been something.
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Reply #26 posted 10/31/05 7:30pm

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JediMaster said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


You'd be surprised. A lot of people can't distinguish this film from Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th. I know a good number of people that assume that since the others are bad, this one is too.


Unfortunately, too many people judge this flick by the lame sequels. To me, its a sin to compare this one to The Curse of Michael Myers.

Actually, the second film is decent (not great), the fourth is creepy, and H2O ain't bad. All the rest are craptacular. It pisses me off that 5 and 6 had to be so bad, as 4 really set up a good storyarc that could have really been something.

That's what I'm sayin'! And The Curse of Michael Myers is the worst of the worst! Even the so-called producer's cut that - by some fan standards - is supposedly better than the theatrical cut is hokey at best.
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Reply #27 posted 10/31/05 8:20pm

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Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #28 posted 10/31/05 8:35pm

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The first "Halloween" is definately the scariest movie of all time.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Andy is a four letter word.
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