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Reply #210 posted 11/07/05 11:31am

Spats

1. I do have interest in other people's feelings.

2. Who takes zero intiative? I have done my share of making the first move. It's my turn to have some enjoyment. There is not one fun thing about asking someone out or making the first move.

3. What is wrong with wanting a pretty blonde? I presume you are not blonde. Why else would you knock wanting one.

4. How is looking out for other opportunity's stupid? Would you want to commit yourself to one job your entire life? Or would you seek better opportunity's with better pay? Come on. The person you are with is not the be all and end all. There are millions of pretty woman out there. It makes no sense to not look around. You only live once.
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Reply #211 posted 11/07/05 11:39am

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Spats said:

I presume you are not blonde. Why else would you knock wanting one.



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Yeah, that's gotta be it!

I really wish I had more time to discuss these important issues with you, but I'm afraid that since Life IS short, I have better things to do. Maybe tomorrow I'll engage in this futile endeavor.


lol Not blonde? Hee hee.
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Reply #212 posted 11/07/05 2:17pm

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The sex I advocate ...

It's not for the Ms. Celie's

It's not for the stone age

It's not for the people in the 1950s

It's for someone who celebrates the differences between men and women and find those differences hot and intoxicating. Celie didn't even have a relationship with Mr. There was no bond between them. Her submission was demanded, not given in awe and respect as does a women who looks up to her man and celebrates him.

I not going to lie there while anyone does his business. I guess it's easy to condemn somethign if you distort it. wink

I am going to meet that man in bed, our feminine/masculine essences will clash and it will be explosive. He will lead and dominate and I'll respond to his every movement, nurturing him and celebrating the fact that he's an incredible masculine power. That's beautiful. But I'm not talking about some casual sex or one night stand. I'm talking about a beautiful, romantic loving relationship.

I'm not trying to emasculate a man or be like him. I accept my womanhood and revel in it. I'm not oppressed. Men and women are both powerful. But part of my power is in nurturing the man I love. I'm not trying to be the thruster. I like being taken. You know that verse in the Bible where it says Jacob took Rachel to his tent and took her ... I LOVE that. We live in a society where men do not get to be the heroes they were created to be. That's too bad.

The thing is... I consider myself a feminist and believe in female power ... and this does not contradict with that. Female power doesn't have to mirror male power. If I'm going to command the bed, then I might as well buy a strap-on or dildo and fuck him.

But that's not going to happen. The only men I've respected in bed are those who are dominant and know how to command the bed.

What I'm getting out of this is is that you're turned on by "straightforward" (for lack of a better word) sex and I guess people could mistake that for being a boring or lazy lay (but I guess they forgot their own fetishes which could be equally boring from your point of view...)
If that's what you're into and your partner is too then fuck the rest their opinion, you and your partner seem to be content with the sex you have and you both get off and satisfied by it and that seems to me to be a lot more important...

I believe every woman secretly craves to be "taken" and handled ... this is why some women provoke men .. they like getting them riled and seeing their masculine power unleashed.

I have to disagree with this, some women like to be dominant while others like to be dominated...
Some men like to be "taken" and handled by a woman as much as some woman wants to be "taken" and handled by a man...
People seem to forget that in sex anything goes if you're both into it and it turns you on, there are no rules or guidelines to follow... (Unless the point of it is making a baby, off course...)

Look around you and you will see woman who have perverted and misunderstood their secret craving for a strong male hero in their lives ... they'll go afte these muscle head thugs who aren't afraid to die in the street and carry guns. Why is that attractive?

Different strokes for different folks...

Cause those men are hard as hell and they represent power and security ... but they are little boys ... so immature and immoral. They can never be my hero. It a man puts it on a woman hard, he'll immediately notice the respect-awe factor. She wants that.

You can't speak for all women on what they want or don't want in sex...
The fun thing about sex is the sheer diversity of how one can perform it in different ways that could very well be equally stimulating, be it with the same person or someone else...

I want to know I'm with a strong man. I like someone who commands the bed and puts me under his power. At the same time he's intoxicated by me and is emotionally under my power and hungers for me.

He hungers for me as a nurturer and I hunger for him as a protector.

Why anyone would make this seem bad is beyond me. It's human nature. Now, we don't have to follow nature. Man can exercise free will. But you know what I like this part of my nature. And I like the pleasure-pain realm of sex that was created for such bonding.

Then that's your fetish and that turns you on which doesn't apply to all women... As you can see in this thread...

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Reply #213 posted 11/07/05 2:22pm

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Zelaira said:

Syn ,just has some Issues. I Swear SYn is a MAN . I don't Know about any Rachel or Jacob . You want to be DOMINATED by A MAN and OVERTAKEN is what it is. I Guess you like all that. To Each'S own. You want the Man to Tell you What to Do and also Direct the Bedroom Adventures. I would be Bored.

And this coming from someone who probably is a man and has no sexlife whatsoever...

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Reply #214 posted 11/07/05 2:25pm

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Zelaira said:

That's True. Just that I Don't know one Guy who wants to do THE CONQUERINg. They want ACTIVE Participation.

Get out more, it might get you laid...

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Reply #215 posted 11/07/05 2:36pm

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Spats said:

Synthiarose's post is a perfect example of one of biggest of my complaints with women. Needy and insecure. And that post alone sent the women's movement back 100 years.lol Although there is a bit of truth there. A lot of Women say they want equality but i think they only want equality when it comes to pay.

You either never had sex or have been raped by a woman or something since you're coming to a societal conclusion based on a single woman's sexual fetish...

"He hungers for me as a nurturer and i hunger for him as a protecter" ??? WTF???? That line alone made me want to PUKE!!!!

And on the other hand it turns her on...
Scatting and goldenshowers make me puke...

I can't believe the women here who ride my ass are not having a field day with this crap. Unless they secretly agree which would be another reason for me to puke and would make them hypocrites.

Ok, so by your logic every woman and man who are into roleplaying during sex are hypocrites...
Keep in mind that it's SEX not a job interview...

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Reply #216 posted 11/07/05 2:43pm

Zelaira

This is STUPID! FIRST OFF I DO NOT WANT TO BE DOMINATEd and all LIKE SYNTHIA DOES..We are DIFFERENT TYPES... Then, Neversin I DO NOT WANT TO GET LAID BY JUST ANYBODY and I WOULD RATHER be ALONE than HANG WITH SOMEONE WHOM I DO NOT HAVE AN INTEREST IN... I Do NOT PLAY GAMES or WASTE MY TIME!!! AND I DO NOT USE MEN like SOME WOMEN DO FOR A MEAL or GIFTS. I WOULD RATHER BE INDEPENDENT and BUY MY OWN MEALS AND BELONGINGS..... THANKs 4 YOUR CONCERN..I AM VERY HAPPY AS IS!!! biggrin
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Reply #217 posted 11/07/05 2:58pm

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Spats said:

1.I want a pretty blonde. Most of the women i have been with and dated have been pretty blondes. Brunette's will do but i prefer blondes.

2.They should be feminine and in good shape.

Just looks, that's not the point here...

3.They should have good table manners and eating manners. Eveyone knows what this means.

She shouldn't have a tail either right?

4.They should be nice and I have to get along with them. This obvious.

Then why mention it?

5. I like good sized breasts. I am not into flat chested women.

Just looks again...

6.No needy and insecure women. Save the drama for your mama.

Needy? So you would never lend a helping hand or listen to her? Nice...

7. No old fashioned women that believe in gender roles. Meaning "The man should do this and the women do this." There is no bigger turn on than when a woman will make the first move.

True...

8. No loud or overbearing women or self obsorbed women.

Annoying indeed...

10. No heavy drinkers.

Again an obvious one...

You should go to Amsterdam, we have this place that's called "The Redlight District" there you will find everything you listed up here... You have to be 18+ though...

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Reply #218 posted 11/07/05 3:08pm

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Zelaira said:

THANKs 4 YOUR CONCERN..I AM VERY HAPPY AS IS!!! biggrin

You're the last person here I would waste my time on being concerned about, I just find your fingerpointing hypocrisy kind of sadly ironic...
It's like you're feeling threatened by a woman who talks about sex and doesn't portray herself as someone who wants to be seen as the resident crackwhore...

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Reply #219 posted 11/07/05 3:18pm

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Spats said:

Anybody who wants to be physically dominated has issues.

So you would never tie a girl up or blindfold her if she asked you?
Talk about a boring lay...

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Reply #220 posted 11/07/05 3:32pm

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XxAxX said:

moreover he's pointing out an outdated, backward stereotype that still exists, which is: 'men must always make the first move' imo if women wish to be treated as equals they better be willing to hold up their end of 'doing the work'...

True, glad this is a non-issue in most of Holland... But then again the whole taboo thing around sex is also a non-issue here...

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Reply #221 posted 11/07/05 3:36pm

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Spats said:

The fact they won't make the first move proves it. it's all talk.

Or you're too stupid to notice their first move...

And what does my age have to do with it?

Because you come off as a 12 year old who really wants to have sex with your average pornstar...

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Reply #222 posted 11/07/05 3:41pm

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gemini13 said:

Plus, on the buying tampons thread, he wrote that women PURPOSELY EMBARRASS their men by asking them to buy tampons.

Just curious, I never understood why it is so embarrassing to buy a box of tampons...
Is it also embarrassing to buy toiletpaper?

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Reply #223 posted 11/07/05 5:40pm

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GREAT FRICKING THREAD PEOPLE! Lots of emotion and anger and the occassional calm person trying to calm everyone else down. Good read...Got one things to say to SPATS:

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Spats said:
A lot of Women say they want equality but i think they only want equality when it comes to pay.
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It is more important for a man to understand, realize and accept that if need be, a woman can do ANYTHING a man can do, with the small exception of shooting sperm. And come on...how great of a task is that??? lol! (One the same token, a man can do anything a woman can do, with the exception of concieving, shooting a melon out and breast feeding)
Women don't have to do all the fun (or not fun) things men do...but the point of the women's movement is that we can if we want to. If I want to pee standing up...jump out of airplanes into battlezones...be president...tie your ass up in bed...or lie there and let you thrust away...it is my damn priviledge to choose to do so. I as a woman, choose...not you as the man.
That is the point. "traditional roles" are only traditional to those who want to use them.
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Reply #224 posted 11/07/05 5:48pm

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Miskryie said:[quote]GREAT FRICKING THREAD PEOPLE! Lots of emotion and anger and the occassional calm person trying to calm everyone else down. Good read...Got one things to say to SPATS:

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Spats said:
A lot of Women say they want equality but i think they only want equality when it comes to pay.


It is more important for a man to understand, realize and accept that if need be, a woman can do ANYTHING a man can do, with the small exception of shooting sperm. And come on...how great of a task is that??? lol! (One the same token, a man can do anything a woman can do, with the exception of concieving, shooting a melon out and breast feeding)
Women don't have to do all the fun (or not fun) things men do...but the point of the women's movement is that we can if we want to. If I want to pee standing up...jump out of airplanes into battlezones...be president...tie your ass up in bed...or lie there and let you thrust away...it is my damn priviledge to choose to do so. I as a woman, choose...not you as the man.
That is the point. "traditional roles" are only traditional to those who want to use them.

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Reply #225 posted 11/07/05 6:30pm

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Ocean said:

I like to pretend I'm a dead fish and just lie there. big grin

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Reply #226 posted 11/07/05 6:41pm

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Neversin..You are Sad... And If You are Talking Bout CrackWhores and shit ..I Don't EVEN Take DRUGS So Maybe You are Talking Bout YOURSELF. And Syn Wants Men to DOMINATE HER That Sounds WEIRD.... She was even talking like ANTIQUATEd AYN RYN and Stuff .. How Old are you 2?. SOUND OLD...Sounds Boring and Old... I Don't Know one Young Guy who wants a Woman who Lays There . LOl. That is Really Rich... LOl...P.S. Drugs are For LOSERS WHO CAN"T COPE!!!
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Reply #227 posted 11/07/05 6:50pm

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althom said:

Ocean said:

I like to pretend I'm a dead fish and just lie there. big grin

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Poor Ocean comfort

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Reply #228 posted 11/07/05 7:32pm

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Neversin said:

gemini13 said:

Plus, on the buying tampons thread, he wrote that women PURPOSELY EMBARRASS their men by asking them to buy tampons.

Just curious, I never understood why it is so embarrassing to buy a box of tampons...
Is it also embarrassing to buy toiletpaper?

Neversin.



lol I myself have considered the same thing more than once. Just the other day, in fact. It was one of those Charmin Ultra commercials with the big bear teaching the little bear that wiping your ass is good that got me thinking.
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Reply #229 posted 11/07/05 7:34pm

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gemini13 said:

Neversin said:


Just curious, I never understood why it is so embarrassing to buy a box of tampons...
Is it also embarrassing to buy toiletpaper?

Neversin.



lol I myself have considered the same thing more than once. Just the other day, in fact. It was one of those Charmin Ultra commercials with the big bear teaching the little bear that wiping your ass is good that got me thinking.



If you think that's bad, try buying Depends! It's tough! disbelief
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Reply #230 posted 11/07/05 7:35pm

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gemini13 said:




lol I myself have considered the same thing more than once. Just the other day, in fact. It was one of those Charmin Ultra commercials with the big bear teaching the little bear that wiping your ass is good that got me thinking.



If you think that's bad, try buying Depends! It's tough! disbelief



Come on, you're not THAT old.....yet. biggrin
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Reply #231 posted 11/07/05 8:00pm

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althom said:

Ocean said:

I like to pretend I'm a dead fish and just lie there. big grin

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Reply #232 posted 11/08/05 7:09am

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Zelaira said:

Neversin..You are Sad... And If You are Talking Bout CrackWhores and shit ..I Don't EVEN Take DRUGS So Maybe You are Talking Bout YOURSELF. And Syn Wants Men to DOMINATE HER That Sounds WEIRD.... She was even talking like ANTIQUATEd AYN RYN and Stuff .. How Old are you 2?. SOUND OLD...Sounds Boring and Old... I Don't Know one Young Guy who wants a Woman who Lays There . LOl. That is Really Rich... LOl...P.S. Drugs are For LOSERS WHO CAN"T COPE!!!

I'm sad?
You're typing like a kindergarten gnome on acid, so gimme a fucking break with your retarded posts...
And if you think I sound old, well, that's how people with a brain obviously sound like to pubes like yourself...

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Reply #233 posted 11/08/05 7:29am

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gemini13 said:

XxAxX said:



so? cuddling IS a woman thing. most guys agree. c'mon, this can't be news to you....

and clingy people who are in constant need of attention/cuddling annoy the crap out of me. the only thing i disagree with is the nasty remark about the parrot.

parrots are lovely creatures.



Cuddling is not a woman thing.....I know tons of men who enjoy this. His level of "clinginess or neediness" on the part of the woman is talking about herself at all. There is a marked difference between your beliefs and his, based on the entirety of your posts as opposed to his. Are you focused on the ideal of a perfect body in a man, who fits your criteria perfectly, or are you mature enough to understand that no one is perfect? Spats' filter is dirty and clogged.



i disagree that spats' 'filter is dirty and clogged'

you're imposing a double standard here, do you see that?

let me spell it out for you.

first you defend synthia's preference for gender roles (man=aggressor, pursuer, active one in bed; woman = submissive, pursued, less active in bed).

and even though synthia's sexual preference makes her sound like she's kind of into bondage which equates to a possibly questionable psychological background you support her there as well.

(personally i am SO glad women are not requires to behave as synthia describes because that's the role we have been expected to play for centuries. i find it a total turn off to be 'the pursued' fuck that shit, imo).

anyway back to the point:

and THEN, after allowing Synthia the right to choose her admittedly 'different' sexual proferences THEN you have the nerve to refuse to allow spats the same freedom to choose his preferences?

excuse me but that has double standard written all over it.
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Reply #234 posted 11/08/05 7:34am

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Neversin said:

Spats said:

1.I want a pretty blonde. Most of the women i have been with and dated have been pretty blondes. Brunette's will do but i prefer blondes.

2.They should be feminine and in good shape.

Just looks, that's not the point here...


Annoying indeed...

10. No heavy drinkers.

Again an obvious one...

You should go to Amsterdam, we have this place that's called "The Redlight District" there you will find everything you listed up here... You have to be 18+ though...

Neversin.



ok. you're doing it too.


you SUPPORT synthiarose's submissive/passive/'let me lie still while you do the work in bed honey' approach

BUT you will not allow spats to choose what pleases him?

what did i miss?

WHY is there an all-out war against spats up in here?
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Reply #235 posted 11/08/05 7:36am

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Thanks. It is a doube standard.

No, i would not tie a woman up, and blind fold her and dominate her even if she wanted me to because i am not into that. I would not ask her to do anything she didn't want to do so i would expect her to not ask me.
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Reply #236 posted 11/08/05 7:46am

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XxAxX said:

you SUPPORT synthiarose's submissive/passive/'let me lie still while you do the work in bed honey' approach

BUT you will not allow spats to choose what pleases him?

what did i miss?

What did you miss?
I don't give a flying fuck what Spats chooses that pleases him, if he likes it he should just do it, who gives a shit? It's just sex... But since he's not talking about sex but just superficial things he likes about women he wants to have I don't see what your point is...
He's making a rather retarded point about women in society based on a single woman's sexual preference, while he himself doesn't even have one and just started to list useless info of what he likes in his women... I don't see the relevance, oh wait, there isn't any...

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Reply #237 posted 11/08/05 7:49am

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It was not useless info. I was asked what i look for in women. And i listed the things.
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Reply #238 posted 11/08/05 7:52am

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Neversin said:

XxAxX said:

you SUPPORT synthiarose's submissive/passive/'let me lie still while you do the work in bed honey' approach

BUT you will not allow spats to choose what pleases him?

what did i miss?

What did you miss?
I don't give a flying fuck what Spats chooses that pleases him, if he likes it he should just do it, who gives a shit? It's just sex... But since he's not talking about sex but just superficial things he likes about women he wants to have I don't see what your point is...
He's making a rather retarded point about women in society based on a single woman's sexual preference, while he himself doesn't even have one and just started to list useless info of what he likes in his women... I don't see the relevance, oh wait, there isn't any...

Neversin.



sweetie, go back and re-read the difference between your response to synthiarose and spats.

you are understanding and kind to synthia (even though in my opinion and in the opinion of many other women who've weighed in here - synthia's preference represents a backward, repressive social role)

BUT you are harsh to spats, who lists his turn-ons.

then again, you're pretty insultive to just about everyone on this thread. maybe you're just having a bad day neutral
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Reply #239 posted 11/08/05 8:07am

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XxAxX said:

gemini13 said:




Cuddling is not a woman thing.....I know tons of men who enjoy this. His level of "clinginess or neediness" on the part of the woman is talking about herself at all. There is a marked difference between your beliefs and his, based on the entirety of your posts as opposed to his. Are you focused on the ideal of a perfect body in a man, who fits your criteria perfectly, or are you mature enough to understand that no one is perfect? Spats' filter is dirty and clogged.



i disagree that spats' 'filter is dirty and clogged'

you're imposing a double standard here, do you see that?

let me spell it out for you.

first you defend synthia's preference for gender roles (man=aggressor, pursuer, active one in bed; woman = submissive, pursued, less active in bed).

and even though synthia's sexual preference makes her sound like she's kind of into bondage which equates to a possibly questionable psychological background you support her there as well.

(personally i am SO glad women are not requires to behave as synthia describes because that's the role we have been expected to play for centuries. i find it a total turn off to be 'the pursued' fuck that shit, imo).

anyway back to the point:

and THEN, after allowing Synthia the right to choose her admittedly 'different' sexual proferences THEN you have the nerve to refuse to allow spats the same freedom to choose his preferences?

excuse me but that has double standard written all over it.
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Nope, I don't agree with your opinion. Spats is a pig, and I don't agree with his superficiality. I don't care what he does sexually, his standards for dating are clearly only based on looks, even though he himself is average looking. THAT is what I am arguing, and nothing else.
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