You are promoting gender roles. The male is the pursuer and the aggressor. The woman is pursued and taken or dominated by the man. You are living in a romance novel. Get into the year 2005.

You are promoting gender roles. The male is the pursuer and the aggressor. The woman is pursued and taken or dominated by the man. You are living in a romance novel. Get into the year 2005.

You are promoting gender roles. The male is the pursuer and the aggressor. The woman is pursued and taken or dominated by the man. You are living in a romance novel. Get into the year 2005.

No, women are the wimps. I have done my share of making the first move. And so have all men. I have been successfull and unsuccessful. I got tired of the rejection. If women had the guts to risk rejection they would know what men go through.

These days I would only make the first move if i knew for 100% sure that the women was interested. Most of the time you can't tell because women do not make their intentions clear (or i have just not seen the signs) or just play games. Most of the time now i wait the woman out until she makes the first move. Some times it works and some times it does not but it saves me embarrassment and rejection.

It's funny, there have been times where i have been told that the girl or woman has been interested but i have purposely not done anything. Just to make them wait or wonder what's going on or made them think i was not interested. Just to watch how they reacted to that. I guess it's giving them a taste of their own medicine.Women are so used to sitting back and letting the men do all of the work that they seem to be taken off guard when you don't.

Anybody who wants to be physically dominated has issues.

Yes. That's what i am talking about. I am tired of putting my ass on the line. I am tired of getting the nervous stomach, the pressure, the mixed signals, the embarrassment and the rejection. And on top of that it's a huge turn on when they do it. The first time it happened to me it was like..."Holy Sh#t this is hot."

I think it would be easier for everybody if the women did it. Because if the woman is good looking she is not likely to get rejected. The odds are with her. Most men are not going to turn down a good looking woman. It's a bigger risk of rejection when the guy does it.

Spats said:

Don't take this the wrong way mate but exactly how old are you?

I can't believe this stupidity continues.

Yes, I posted my thoughts and started this thread.

Then, histrionic dimwitted people exaggerate my statements and impose interpretations that are unsupported by my posts.

Then, they make personal attacks.


By the end of the thread, I decide to stop being diplomatic and point out the ignorance.

And now I'm being accused of something.

Complete bullshit.

I've never condemned someone for their personal perferences on this thread. I've condemened stupidity and misinterpretation. You should as well.

Lemmings.

Don't accuse me of not being receptive to opinion. That's far from true. I'm not receptive to personal attacks ...which have been plenty. And those perpetrators don't deserve any passionate defense.
And yes I said I didn't have to defend my intensity and sensuality. (which doesn't mean that I will opt out of defense by the way)...and then some smart ass wants to say i'm doing it.

Umm... the rest of my post was not a defense ..it was an explanation complete with novel excerpt. And even if one thought it were a defense ...it wasn't of intensity and sensuality ...it was of my philosophy.

There are so many illogical statements that continue.

Including someone saying I'm endorsing gender roles. Um, this is a thread about sex. Not about professions or anything else in life. And then the 'insulting captive audience' quip. People posting on an Internet are hardly captive and my comments are directed toward those that have already been insulting to me.

Anyway, I've tried to ignore this thread all day ...because it's really going on longer than necessary.

But damn, I'm not going to have someone point a finger at me for losing my patience with posters here. I said what needed to be said.

Especially to two particular ones who've gone out of their way just to goad.

This thread has clearly descended into a really negative diatribe, despite my opening it with a light, whimisical tone.

I'm done. This is not the type of interaction I like to have on the org.

Yes. That's what i am talking about. I am tired of putting my ass on the line. I am tired of getting the nervous stomach, the pressure, the mixed signals, the embarrassment and the rejection. And on top of that it's a huge turn on when they do it. The first time it happened to me it was like..."Holy Sh#t this is hot."

I think it would be easier for everybody if the women did it. Because if the woman is good looking she is not likely to get rejected. The odds are with her. Most men are not going to turn down a good looking woman. It's a bigger risk of rejection when the guy does it.

Spats said:

Don't take this the wrong way mate but exactly how old are you?

mdiver said:

He says he's in his late twenties.

gemini13 said:

mdiver said:

He says he's in his late twenties.

gemini13 said:

but what he's saying is true.

moreover he's pointing out an outdated, backward stereotype that still exists, which is: 'men must always make the first move'

imo if women wish to be treated as equals they better be willing to hold up their end of 'doing the work'...

They won't. The whole "we want to be treated as equals" is a myth. The fact they won't make the first move proves it. it's all talk.

My attitude does not suck and they have no idea what my attitude is.

And what does my age have to do with it?

XxAxX said:

True?

How so?

"Just to watch how they reacted to that. I guess it's giving them a taste of their own medicine"

This behavior is sick and unhealthy.

From another thread:

"I am not a cuddler. I think it's mostly a woman thing and most guys do it just to keep the woman happy so they will get rewarded. The only time i really do it is if i am hoping for some sack time or just making out. It sounds bad but it's true. I do not need lots of affection. I think it's mainly for women who are needy/insecure and who did not get enough attention from Daddy.

My friend has a girlfriend who cannot seem to get enough of it. When we are out she is always doing something like putting her head on his shoulder. Wanting to hold his hand. Always cuddling up close to him. All of us just roll our eyes. She is one of the most annoying women i have ever come across. She is homely too. Looks like a parrot."

Dude has problems with social connections. What he is saying is his OPINION, not the truth. Maybe the truth as he sees it, but definitely not the absolute truth. I knew someone who had these same exact ideas about women and relationships. He also abused his children, had trouble forming meaningful relationships, and was diagnosed with a mild form of Aspergers.(note: Not saying that Spats is autistic )

Plus, on the buying tampons thread, he wrote that women PURPOSELY EMBARRASS their men by asking them to buy tampons.

WTF?! That is SO immature. I don't know too many immature people who know what the truth of anything is. Do you?

gemini13 said:

so? cuddling IS a woman thing. most guys agree. c'mon, this can't be news to you....

and clingy people who are in constant need of attention/cuddling annoy the crap out of me. the only thing i disagree with is the nasty remark about the parrot.

parrots are lovely creatures.

Gemini 13...I don't have alot of time to talk about GUYS BUT ONE CAN FIND a MAN without FLAB at THE GYM... PERFECT BODIES DO EXIST and NOT Wanting One who DRINKS OR DRUGS is ANOTHER... Spats is Like 50 Cent in my opinion . He's doing the Gangster Stance.