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Reply #30 posted 10/30/05 11:01am

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show of hands: how many people here think hitchcock was abducted by aliens at least once, maybe twice? wave
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Reply #31 posted 10/30/05 5:10pm

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Dewrede said:

It's just a movie
Why overanalyze it ? smile[/b]


rolleyes oh, here we go again. lol
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Reply #32 posted 10/30/05 5:15pm

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Ace said:

Natsume said:


yes!

If the meaning is open for the viewer's interpretation, then why intend a meaning at all? Why not just make something totally abstract?

If I am a songwriter and I write a song that opposes racism (for example), but someone interprets it as being pro-racism, is that interpretation equally valid? hmmm


Sure, it's valid. But there are variations in artists' control of meaning. Some make really abstract art, some make really concrete art and require varying degrees of work from the viewer/reader/listener. I tend to prefer art toward the abstract end because I like bringing my own interpretations to it and playing with meaning myself. But there can also be very clear themes, more obvious messages, that bring out a lot of complexity too.
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Reply #33 posted 10/30/05 7:39pm

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It's on tcm now. what about the caged birds he brings to the island, is that of any significance wonder? hmmm
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Reply #34 posted 10/30/05 7:48pm

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It's a foresight into the future about how the bird flu is going to come and kill us all. razz
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Reply #35 posted 10/30/05 8:27pm

charlottegelin

TMPletz said:

It's a foresight into the future about how the bird flu is going to come and kill us all. razz

omfg
and parrots can fly up your skirt if you are not careful, just ask my auntie nod
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Reply #36 posted 10/30/05 8:28pm

TMPletz

charlottegelin said:

TMPletz said:

It's a foresight into the future about how the bird flu is going to come and kill us all. razz

omfg
and parrots can fly up your skirt if you are not careful, just ask my auntie nod

HA! I don't wear skirts! razz
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Reply #37 posted 10/30/05 8:30pm

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TMPletz said:

charlottegelin said:


omfg
and parrots can fly up your skirt if you are not careful, just ask my auntie nod

HA! I don't wear skirts! razz

dressing gown then, same thing rolleyes
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Reply #38 posted 10/30/05 8:34pm

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charlottegelin said:

TMPletz said:


HA! I don't wear skirts! razz

dressing gown then, same thing rolleyes

razz

Now maybe if you had said "Jedi robes".... lol
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Reply #39 posted 10/30/05 8:40pm

charlottegelin

TMPletz said:

charlottegelin said:


dressing gown then, same thing rolleyes

razz

Now maybe if you had said "Jedi robes".... lol

no, I said dressing gown geek
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Reply #40 posted 10/30/05 9:34pm

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hmmm... we have tippi hendren's character, a woman who is so bold, crafty, and independent, as well as passionate about following her urges,go through this story... a lady tells her that she has brought the birds after her... that she is evil... and by the end of the movie she is a mumbling, traumatized, dependent, invalid....

hmmmmm
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Reply #41 posted 10/31/05 4:56am

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Watching it last night there is also an over protective mother who has turned many women away. Notice how the Rod Taylor character is so much older than his sister and there's no father to be seen hmmm
[Edited 10/31/05 5:13am]
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Reply #42 posted 10/31/05 7:03am

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Ace said:

Natsume said:


yes!

If the meaning is open for the viewer's interpretation, then why intend a meaning at all? Why not just make something totally abstract?

If I am a songwriter and I write a song that opposes racism (for example), but someone interprets it as being pro-racism, is that interpretation equally valid? hmmm


It is my opinion that all good art is subjective.
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Reply #43 posted 10/31/05 7:04am

applekisses

lilgish said:

Watching it last night there is also an over protective mother who has turned many women away. Notice how the Rod Taylor character is so much older than his sister and there's no father to be seen hmmm
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I watched it last night and thought the same thing!
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Reply #44 posted 10/31/05 7:05am

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heartbeatocean said:

Ace said:


If the meaning is open for the viewer's interpretation, then why intend a meaning at all? Why not just make something totally abstract?

If I am a songwriter and I write a song that opposes racism (for example), but someone interprets it as being pro-racism, is that interpretation equally valid? hmmm


Sure, it's valid.

Your argument means that interpreting Roots as pro-slavery is valid. Sorry, I disagree.
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Reply #45 posted 10/31/05 7:20am

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heartbeatocean said:

Dewrede said:

It's just a movie
Why overanalyze it ? smile[/b]


rolleyes oh, here we go again. lol


confused smile
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Reply #46 posted 10/31/05 7:41am

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MISOGYNISTIC! did I spell that right? Great film though, just the opening scene surprises with little character twists.

ufoclub said:

hmmm... we have tippi hendren's character, a woman who is so bold, crafty, and independent, as well as passionate about following her urges,go through this story... a lady tells her that she has brought the birds after her... that she is evil... and by the end of the movie she is a mumbling, traumatized, dependent, invalid....

hmmmmm
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Reply #47 posted 10/31/05 8:58am

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Ace said:

heartbeatocean said:



Sure, it's valid.

Your argument means that interpreting Roots as pro-slavery is valid. Sorry, I disagree.


Oh, whatever. There's misinterpretation and there's aberrant readings -- actually taking something against the grain of what it was originally intended to mean. The idea of camp is to take something and adopt it for an entirely different purpose than it was meant for to begin with. No, that probably would not work for Roots. lol Although, at some point in history, people may get tired of watching black people be whipped on television. Oops, now I've really opened a can of worms. boxed
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Reply #48 posted 10/31/05 3:45pm

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DorothyParkerWasCool said:

One of my favorite films! My take is that Birds generally don't harm anyone but they are typically overlooked and or harmed by human beings. Hitchcock showed how a creature that seems so docile, so insignificant and minute could rule the world if they wanted to. The irony in all of this is that the humans didn't consider their actions towards the birds as terrorizing or harming them. i.e. putting them in cages, eat them, keeping them in pet store etc. The typical respone, because the one who initiates terror generally overlook their own actions and then label retaliation terrorizing.

sidenote, I love the tall crane shot where the camera looks down on Bodega Bay as the birds are terrorizing the citizens for a change. Hitchcock called it his God angle/POV, where the all-mighty just sits back and watches the birds retaliate and does not intervene. Great film and thought provoking.

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clapping Well said. smile
In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.
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