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Printableminneapolisgenius said: TheFrog said: I dunno - i think their output screams, "we've taken a shit load of drugs" more than it does of being pretentious. But then both of those can lead to the same result. 
I love Pink Floyd incidentally. So i'm biased.  Well said.  I will never understand why they are constantly being labled as "pretentious".  This album is a perfect example of 70's psychedelic rock, that's all. Nothing pretentious about it IMO. If I were a musician/songwriter back then, I would have written something similar as well, with all the pychedelics I've taken. And Gilmour's playing on it is just sublime.  It's somehow become the thing to do nowdays: label Pink Floyd (and also Radiohead, with those constant band comparisons) as pretentious. So cliche. 
And if I HAD to label one of their albums as being some self-indulgent, pseudo-intellectual effort, I'd say The Wall qualifies more than DSOTM. But I love that one too. I just don't listen to it as much.I think the phrase 'self-indulgent' fits them more than 'pretentious'. Tracks like 'Echoes' and 'Shine On...' are definitely long-winded and meandering to say the least. I like them, but it doesn't escape me that they were terribly self-indulgent. Still, it was successful and turns out people liked it, so why not? | |
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Imago777 said: Anxiety said: oh, i don't think yoko's work is pretentious at all. it actually provokes thought about simple things, which i think is very sweet and charming. some of her stuff is pretty funny, even. some of it is very vulnerable. i enjoy her stuff, she has a great imagination. I don't agree with you. I do | |
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JDINTERACTIVE said: AsylumUtopia said: 
Do you really think DSOTM is pretentious bollocks or is the picture just something for us to look at ? 
Anyway, I've seen plenty of pretentious bollocks. Ireland has a tax amnesty for artists, which means artists, writers and musicians pay no tax at all, the bastards. This is supposed to promote culture, and I guess it does, but it also encourages a plethora of pretentious wankers to talk a lot of bollocks and believe they are artists just because they can throw a bundle of sticks together and vomit on them. Well Pink Floyd are pretentious. Lets be honest. You need to re-phrase, Roger Waters is pretentious. [Edited 10/8/05 4:40am] "Art calls for complete mastery of techniques, developed by reflection within the soul."
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Fauxie said: minneapolisgenius said: Well said. I will never understand why they are constantly being labled as "pretentious". This album is a perfect example of 70's psychedelic rock, that's all. Nothing pretentious about it IMO. If I were a musician/songwriter back then, I would have written something similar as well, with all the pychedelics I've taken. And Gilmour's playing on it is just sublime. It's somehow become the thing to do nowdays: label Pink Floyd (and also Radiohead, with those constant band comparisons) as pretentious. So cliche.
And if I HAD to label one of their albums as being some self-indulgent, pseudo-intellectual effort, I'd say The Wall qualifies more than DSOTM. But I love that one too. I just don't listen to it as much.I think the phrase 'self-indulgent' fits them more than 'pretentious'. Tracks like 'Echoes' and 'Shine On...' are definitely long-winded and meandering to say the least. I like them, but it doesn't escape me that they were terribly self-indulgent. Still, it was successful and turns out people liked it, so why not? I agree. And there's nothing wrong with self-indulgent sometimes. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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Imago777 said: I don't agree with you. then you and the mexican food i ate last night have something in common.  | |
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