I was dragged to one of those art thing places once.It was all bollocks until I saw one particular piece that grabbed my attention.It didn't have a title so I named it, 'Confused-looking northern bloke with kebab remnants on shirt'.

Oh, how we laughed when I found out it was just a mirror.

Anyway, what's the most pretentious rubbish you've ever been to see in the name of art?

cough~orgbookclub~cough

IstenSzek said:

OMG, I hope you weren't discussing the inequities of a JK Rowling.

JDINTERACTIVE said:

Do you really think DSOTM is pretentious bollocks or is the picture just something for us to look at ?

Anyway, I've seen plenty of pretentious bollocks. Ireland has a tax amnesty for artists, which means artists, writers and musicians pay no tax at all, the bastards. This is supposed to promote culture, and I guess it does, but it also encourages a plethora of pretentious wankers to talk a lot of bollocks and believe they are artists just because they can throw a bundle of sticks together and vomit on them.

AsylumUtopia said:

Well Pink Floyd are pretentious. Lets be honest.

JDINTERACTIVE said:

I've never really considered them (their music that is) to be pretentious. I guess making concept albums about very personal subjects could be considered self indulgent and pretentious, but they'd hardly be the only people guilty of that.

If anything, I'd say their music sounds more cliched now, but that's because it's been played to death, particularly songs like Another Brick in the Wall, or Money and The Great Gig in the Sky, which seem to have been used in about half the ads ever made.

AsylumUtopia said:

omg, i'm SO moving there!

right now, i'm paying about 50% in self-employment tax!

JDINTERACTIVE said:

I dunno - i think their output screams, "we've taken a shit load of drugs" more than it does of being pretentious. But then both of those can lead to the same result.

I love Pink Floyd incidentally. So i'm biased.

TheFrog said:

Well said. I will never understand why they are constantly being labled as "pretentious". This album is a perfect example of 70's psychedelic rock, that's all. Nothing pretentious about it IMO. If I were a musician/songwriter back then, I would have written something similar as well, with all the pychedelics I've taken. And Gilmour's playing on it is just sublime. It's somehow become the thing to do nowdays: label Pink Floyd (and also Radiohead, with those constant band comparisons) as pretentious. So cliche.

And if I HAD to label one of their albums as being some self-indulgent, pseudo-intellectual effort, I'd say The Wall qualifies more than DSOTM. But I love that one too. I just don't listen to it as much.

JDINTERACTIVE said:

well I don't think you can get rubbisher then shit

so this must be it:

http://www.cloaca.be/



the machine produces shit:






this is the result:


for only 3000 euro you are the proud owner of a peace of shit

now if this isn't art than what is?

/edd

EDD said:

i'll send my poo for a mere 1500, and i'll even throw in a box of tic tacs.

EDD said:

It says "Cloaca" in Coca-Cola letters.

GangstaFam said:

yes, and in the ford logo




and search this one:



or it even gets better:



now that gives "fuck warner bros" a whole new meaning

/edd

That is so fucked!

I knew a guy who used to style his pubic hair. I'm not sure if his bollocks were into jazz or anything, but they sure looked pretty pretentious.

sinaplenty said:

Well, if he's into styling his pubes then they're probably into jazz!

this artist i forget his name shit in a yellow can and photographed it.

found it. my teacher discussed him when talking about art made from unsual materials

http://www.poopreport.com...t/art.html

Here's an internet art installation...

http://www.snarg.net

Not only is it pretentious but it's fucking annoying!

Dewrede said:

no

brownsugar said:

pretentious? yes.

worthy of a firing squad? not quite.

Anxiety said:

he can be annoying but still i love all. kind of unconditional-i think i'm married to u2

brownsugar said:

I think he succeeds because of his pretensions.

Anxiety said:

i agree
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I've seen an exhibition of Yoko Ono's work, I guess she could be called pretentious as she does a lot of conceptual art, but I liked it.

LleeLlee said:

oh, i don't think yoko's work is pretentious at all. it actually provokes thought about simple things, which i think is very sweet and charming. some of her stuff is pretty funny, even. some of it is very vulnerable. i enjoy her stuff, she has a great imagination.

Anxiety said:

I don't agree with you.

Anxiety said:

I did enjoy the exhibition and some of it was interactive too which always makes it more interesting. I agree that she does have a great imagination and I think she also likes to provoke/stimulate discussion by being controversial. A lot of people dont like her as she is still viewed as the woman that caused friction amongst John Lennon and the rest of the Beatles and this tends to colour their view of her. But as an artist in her own right and away from the Beatles association I think she's interesting.