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Thread started 10/05/05 10:47am

Ace

PAL to NTSC

Anybody out there able to convert a PAL DVD to NTSC? There's a PJ Harvey live bootleg DVD out there that's tempting me, but I don't know if I can find anyone here to convert it.
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Reply #1 posted 10/05/05 10:48am

applekisses

Ace said:

Anybody out there able to convert a PAL DVD to NTSC? There's a PJ Harvey live bootleg DVD out there that's tempting me, but I don't know if I can find anyone here to convert it.



Buy a region-free player. They're really cheap.
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Reply #2 posted 10/05/05 10:49am

Ace

applekisses said:

Ace said:

Anybody out there able to convert a PAL DVD to NTSC? There's a PJ Harvey live bootleg DVD out there that's tempting me, but I don't know if I can find anyone here to convert it.



Buy a region-free player. They're really cheap.

Isn't the PAL/NTSC thing a separate issue from the regions thing?
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Reply #3 posted 10/05/05 10:49am

retina

applekisses said:

Ace said:

Anybody out there able to convert a PAL DVD to NTSC? There's a PJ Harvey live bootleg DVD out there that's tempting me, but I don't know if I can find anyone here to convert it.



Buy a region-free player. They're really cheap.


nod Exactly. Then you don't have to worry about these issues anymore.
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Reply #4 posted 10/05/05 10:50am

applekisses

Ace said:

applekisses said:




Buy a region-free player. They're really cheap.

Isn't the PAL/NTSC thing a separate issue from the regions thing?



Dude...that IS the region thing lol
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Reply #5 posted 10/05/05 10:50am

retina

Ace said:

applekisses said:




Buy a region-free player. They're really cheap.

Isn't the PAL/NTSC thing a separate issue from the regions thing?


No, region 1 is NTSC and region 2 is PAL. They go hand in hand, so to speak.
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Reply #6 posted 10/05/05 10:51am

Ace

retina said:

applekisses said:




Buy a region-free player. They're really cheap.


nod Exactly. Then you don't have to worry about these issues anymore.

But NTSC and PAL existed long before DVD. Even if the disc is region encoded (which I doubt it would be, as it's a bootleg), wouldn't it still need to be converted to the proper video format to be viewed on American equipment?
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Reply #7 posted 10/05/05 10:51am

superspaceboy

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Ace said:

applekisses said:




Buy a region-free player. They're really cheap.

Isn't the PAL/NTSC thing a separate issue from the regions thing?


SOrt of...but usually a region free DVD also means that you can play PAL or NTSC.

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Reply #8 posted 10/05/05 10:52am

retina

applekisses said:

Ace said:


Isn't the PAL/NTSC thing a separate issue from the regions thing?



Dude...that IS the region thing lol


Not really. NTSC/PAL has to do with technology format (don't ask me about the details) while the regions are just a way of "locking" the DVDs from other zones. But like I said, they do go hand in hand. At least this is what I've been told.
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Reply #9 posted 10/05/05 10:53am

applekisses

retina said:

applekisses said:




Dude...that IS the region thing lol


Not really. NTSC/PAL has to do with technology format (don't ask me about the details) while the regions are just a way of "locking" the DVDs from other zones. But like I said, they do go hand in hand. At least this is what I've been told.



Oh come on...basically it's the same deal...
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Reply #10 posted 10/05/05 10:57am

Ace

applekisses said:

Ace said:


Isn't the PAL/NTSC thing a separate issue from the regions thing?



Dude...that IS the region thing lol

As I understand it, the industry agreed to region-encode discs and players before DVDs hit the market. NTSC and PAL existed long before DVDs, so why would this be the same issue? I believe there are more than 2 "regions" in the DVD system.
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Reply #11 posted 10/05/05 10:58am

Ace

retina said:

Not really. NTSC/PAL has to do with technology format (don't ask me about the details) while the regions are just a way of "locking" the DVDs from other zones.

Exactly.
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Reply #12 posted 10/05/05 10:59am

retina

Ace said:

retina said:



nod Exactly. Then you don't have to worry about these issues anymore.

But NTSC and PAL existed long before DVD. Even if the disc is region encoded (which I doubt it would be, as it's a bootleg), wouldn't it still need to be converted to the proper video format to be viewed on American equipment?


I'm not sure. I've had problems playing uncoded DVDs on Canadian DVD players, so you might be right. Theoretically it shouldn't be a problem though (again from what I've been told).
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Reply #13 posted 10/05/05 10:59am

Ace

retina said:

But like I said, they do go hand in hand. At least this is what I've been told.

How could they if there are more than 2 DVD "regions"?
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Reply #14 posted 10/05/05 11:01am

applekisses

All I know is if you buy a region-free player it will play all regions and getting them transferred will be a non-issue.
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Reply #15 posted 10/05/05 11:04am

Ace

From dvddemystified.com (boldface added by me):
The MPEG video on a DVD is stored in digital format, but it's formatted for one of two mutually incompatible television systems: 525/60 (NTSC) or 625/50 (PAL/SECAM). Therefore, there are two kinds of DVDs: "NTSC DVDs" and "PAL DVDs." Some players only play NTSC discs, others play PAL and NTSC discs. Discs are also coded for different regions of the world
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Reply #16 posted 10/05/05 11:05am

applekisses

Ace said:

From dvddemystified.com (boldface added by me):
The MPEG video on a DVD is stored in digital format, but it's formatted for one of two mutually incompatible television systems: 525/60 (NTSC) or 625/50 (PAL/SECAM). Therefore, there are two kinds of DVDs: "NTSC DVDs" and "PAL DVDs." Some players only play NTSC discs, others play PAL and NTSC discs. Discs are also coded for different regions of the world



DUDE... REGION FREE PLAYER!
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Reply #17 posted 10/05/05 11:08am

Ace

applekisses said:

Ace said:

From dvddemystified.com (boldface added by me):



DUDE... REGION FREE PLAYER!

lol Can someone else confirm that a "region-free" player will automatically convert PAL to NTSC ('cause, Ms. applekisses, PAL format video will not play back properly on an NTSC television and all North American sets are NTSC)?
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Reply #18 posted 10/05/05 11:09am

BinaryJustin

It's two separate issues.

Most DVD players will convert either an PAL or NTSC signal to S-Video output. The worst that'll happen is that you may see a black and white image, but the sound will be fine.

If it's a bootleg, it'll probably be region-free anyway.
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Reply #19 posted 10/05/05 11:11am

BinaryJustin

p.s. Search for your player here: http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks to make it region-free.
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Reply #20 posted 10/05/05 11:15am

Ace

BinaryJustin said:

The worst that'll happen is that you may see a black and white image, but the sound will be fine.


But I want to see PJ in full-colour. sad
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Reply #21 posted 10/05/05 11:29am

applekisses

Ace said:

applekisses said:




DUDE... REGION FREE PLAYER!

lol Can someone else confirm that a "region-free" player will automatically convert PAL to NTSC ('cause, Ms. applekisses, PAL format video will not play back properly on an NTSC television and all North American sets are NTSC)?



WHAT? You don't trust me?! hmph!
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Reply #22 posted 10/05/05 11:30am

Ace

applekisses said:

Ace said:


lol Can someone else confirm that a "region-free" player will automatically convert PAL to NTSC ('cause, Ms. applekisses, PAL format video will not play back properly on an NTSC television and all North American sets are NTSC)?



WHAT? You don't trust me?! hmph!

Even those you trust can be misinformed. batting eyes
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Reply #23 posted 10/05/05 11:32am

applekisses

Ace said:

applekisses said:




WHAT? You don't trust me?! hmph!

Even those you trust can be misinformed. batting eyes



Good lord...I think you just like to argue with me. sigh
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Reply #24 posted 10/05/05 11:39am

Ace

applekisses said:

Ace said:


Even those you trust can be misinformed. batting eyes



Good lord...I think you just like to argue with me. sigh

No, it just doesn't make sense. There are two video formats, yet there are seven DVD regions. So a player that is "region-free" does not necessarily convert from one format to the other (some of them might, but I am still waiting on confirmation that all of them do).
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Reply #25 posted 10/05/05 11:41am

RipHer2Shreds

lol DVD regions and NTSC/PAL are separate things entirely, but yes, you have to make sure you have a player that is capable of both playing DVDs from other regions AND doing the PAL to NTSC conversion.
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Reply #26 posted 10/05/05 11:41am

applekisses

Ace said:

applekisses said:




Good lord...I think you just like to argue with me. sigh

No, it just doesn't make sense. There are two video formats, yet there are seven DVD regions. So a player that is "region-free" does not necessarily convert from one format to the other (some of them might, but I am still waiting on confirmation that all of them do).
[Edited 10/5/05 11:39am]


Well...as long as it can play both NTSC and PAL then isn't that all you want?
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Reply #27 posted 10/05/05 11:43am

BinaryJustin

Ace said:

No, it just doesn't make sense. There are two video formats, yet there are seven DVD regions. So a player that is "region-free" does not necessarily convert from one format to the other (some of them might, but I am still waiting on confirmation that all of them do).


It's two different things.

You could manufacture Region 1 PAL DVDs if you wanted or you could manufacture Region 2 NTSC DVDs if you wanted to...

Go to http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers and see if your player will convert a PAL signal to NTSC via an in-built RF Modulator. If it will, go to the hacks page and find the hack to make your player region-free.
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Reply #28 posted 10/05/05 11:45am

Ace

Thanks for the input, guys! smile
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Reply #29 posted 10/05/05 11:47am

applekisses

Ace said:

Thanks for the input, guys! smile



Shut up...you hate my input...even though I gave you the most simple resolution!
hmph!
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