JediMaster said:

is that supposed to be a ninja turtle?

JediMaster said:

it's as if he's making knock-offs for the sake of knock-offs! like the real thing is more expensive than this..."no son, we can't afford wonder woman. how about glory, she's the same thing! but cheaper and shittily drawn!"

this slays me.

This character should be called Johnny Bigshoes!

JediMaster said:

it's Super Stubby!!!!

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

EXACTLY!!!

Not sure who this character is, but it looks like Cable: The Hippy Years to me.

JediMaster said:

gundam called...they said they want you to quit stealing the feet off of their mechas.

This is, in no way, a giant rip-off of Jim Lee's Batman: Hush cover!!

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Watch out!!!! Its GIGANTIC FLYING GIRL BUCKY!!!!

JediMaster said:

yeah--that, and is that a crossbow he's holding? he has the arrows drawn back, but where's the friggin line? dude must've forgotten to draw it in...if he were to let go of the arrows they're just gonna fall on the ground. some superhero.

Here's Rob being witty...while shamelessly ripping off DC's Lobo character:

Here's "War Child", a Liefeld creation:



And here is Prophet, another Liefeld "original". I have no idea what makes these two different characters:

JediMaster said:

this pisses me off. why change the falcon's costume? he was one of my favorite superheroes as a kid, mainly because he had such a kick-ass costume. why do these artists have to come in and try to "improve" things that are perfect the way they are? i'm hating this guy more and more.

Anxiety said:

Heh. You're really going to hate GIANT STEROID RIDDLED BATTLE ARMOUR NICK FURY!!!!!

"Hey man, I am NOT just a bad Captain America clone!"



"(sigh) Okay, yeah, I am".

JediMaster said:

he's clenching his fists because he's so angry that he still doesn't look captain american-ish enough.

JediMaster said:

hey, nick fury: david byrne called. he wants his big suit back.

Anxiety said:

Here's a real hoot! What's up with Wolvie's claws?

Here we see Starbuck with the same chest deformity as Captain America!

Please mention how he copies other artists and tries to pawn them off as his own drawings....i'm at work and can't do all the research right now.

jerseykrs said:

if you know your comic book characters, the proof is as plain as the nose on your face.

JediMaster said:

he's kneeling in mid-air, too! and yeah...his chest & back aren't matching up. either that, or some alien's about to come bursting outta his chest.

JediMaster said:

where is the shading ???

not sure whats going on in that picture

Well, they all suck... except these..these are like uber gay hot!

This thread was like a mini lesson.

I don't read comics, but I've enjoyed a few graphic novels, like Watchmen & V for Vendetta.

I would have never noticed that this guy sucked, as he obviously has some skill as an illustrator & is basically competant. But the subtleties show what you are talking about. The muscles that don't exist on human bodies, weird deformities, and the rip offs (which I wouldn't know anything about).

It proves that technical skill is only half of being an artist.

For a total beginner, what's one of the most highly regarded comic series--maybe something you can get in a book form?

jerseykrs said:

Oh, I PLAN on getting to that! In fact, there was a website a while back, which I can't seem to find, that shows all the different pics Rob had ripped off.

Raine said:

I think he's showing how nice and smooth his hands are after soaking in Palmolive!

Yeah, it's pretty wretched!

andyman91 said:

Well, it all depends on your tastes. If you like them there sooper heroes, then there is a whole lot of cool stuff. Dave Gibbons & Alan Moore's Watchmen is fantastic, dark stuff that shows an alternate reality to our own where superpowered heroes altered the course of history. There is also Frank Miller's Batman: Year One, which tells the tale of the Dark Knight's first adventure, and Miller's Dark Knight Returns, which is a possible future for Batman. Oh, and I would remiss if I didn't mention Mark Waid and Alex Ross's grim possible future for the DC heroes, Kingdom Come

I also highly recommend any of the classic Claremont/Byrne X-Men, or the Lee/Romita Sr. Amazing Spider-Man issues. They may seem a tad bit dated now, but they are the basis of so much of the modern stuff. I also really dig Ultimate Spider-Man (which is collected in about a dozen or so volumes of trade paperbacks), a modern retelling of Spidey's origin by Brian Bendis and Mark Bagley.

As far as non capes and tights books, I love Y: The Last Man, by Brian K Vaughn, We3 by Grant Morrison, Creature Tech by Doug TenNapel and Kabuki by David Mack