CalhounSq said:

I just dont understand it either. My brother falls into this category. He has some VERY weird issues with black women and yet lovesssss his momma. Even his wife doesn't really like the fact that she's viewed as some prize above black women. When she was pregnant, all he focused on was having a "pretty baby with good hair". Everytime he says "good hair", I always say..."my hair is good, too, what's bad about it." Lori (my sister in law) just laughs but its a little scary.

I don't understand how you can't see beauty in all types though. That's why I said on that other thread that mentioned "mixed women are the prettiest". That's BS. Beauty comes in all colors, my bi-racial sistas, white sistas, latin, asian and yes brown girls too.

CalhounSq said:

The ones I can't understand are these good-looking, well-to-do brothas with the fat, fugly white chicks hanging on their arm. I see this sh!t all the time and I don't get it. White dudes don't want these chicks, but brothas are all over them. Crazy.

uPtoWnNY said:

Let me say it before they do, because I'm sure RhondaB and Calhoun would jump in here and tell you that beauty comes in all sizes and colors.

AsianBomb777 said:

and apparently his thai momma loved the shit out of a black man. exceptions to every rule! they are going to have some cutie kids.

I don't care who dates who or who marries who. I see nothing wrong with interracial relationships, as I have been in several by myself. I also have a bi-racial nephwew and most likely will have bi-racial children of my own one day.
The only issue (for lack of a better word) with black athletes marrying white women is the fact that most of these women who not even have looked at these men if they were not wealthy. Most of the world (or so I thought) can see this. If his ass was broke, she wouldn't even look his way.

Also, some of the athletes, actors, artists, etc, and even rich CEO in general leave good women who were with them when they had nothing and were nobody only to marry an obvious gold-digger.

meltwithu said:

leave Derek Jeter alone

sociopath said:

i wasn't gonna say anything actually.

Fauxie said:

I knew you was fakin'



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[Edited 9/27/05 11:31am]

Rhondab said:

See, that's the bug out for me. When Black men (or anyone really, but since we're rolling w/ the Black man example...) reject Black women do they even realize that they're rejecting their own mothers? Their sisters? Their DAUGHTERS? THEMSELVES in a sense?? It's another way of saying, "Y'all (and women like y'all) ain't good enough for me." It's some crazy shit...



Yea, I know WAY too many Black folks on that "good hair" shit, friends & family alike. The whole hair texture/skin color thing has Black people FUCKED UP for real Sometimes I get the impression I'm the only one in my family that doesn't wish I looked some other way ...other than the fact that I'd trade bodies w/ Tyra/Angela/Halle/Salma in a second

CalhounSq said:[quote]

Rhondab said:

You view the loving of one person as a rejection of an entire race of women?
Why would you want to carry a load that heavy? So I guess that would mean that any Black man who dates any female who isn't Black must have issues surrounding self-hatred? Again, that's a pretty wide net to cast over an entire group. And I bet you hate stereotyping, too?

Soulofmysoul said:

How about you scroll up & read my initial post before you come for me, patna

CalhounSq said:

So because of your original post you're then allowed to spout off any other bullshit you feel necessary?

Soulofmysoul said:

You're so fucking lazy I have to do it for you huh??

Nobody who reads this:

CalhounSq said:

Would accuse me of this:

your bullshit:

But maybe you date exclusively outside your race & have a complex Look inward chile, not @ me

CalhounSq said:[quote]

Soulofmysoul said:

Or maybe I just stay focused on my life and my choices and try to let others do the same? Maybe I don't look to others to ratify that I am worthwhile? And maybe the post you called me too lazy to read only further proves my point? And maybe I don't believe you for a second when you say you went through that phase and are over it?

Everything I have ever seen you post comes across as angry and bitter. I'm saying this to you sincerely....you sound really unhappy but it manifests itself as aggression. Good luck with that.

Soulofmysoul said:

This thread is asking about opinions on the subject & I commented, so now I'm bitter & focused on interracial relationships?? LAWD...

You're saying a lot more about yourself than you are about me but push on w/ that, I guess it does you well And if you think everything I post is bitter, you ain't been here long enough trick. I'm a fuckin' angel

Now kiss my ass gently... I SAID GENTLY!!




Why a newb gotta come for me every couple of months??

CalhounSq said:

I've been around long enough to form an opinion...since Feb of 2004. You used to fight with me as Fleshofmyflesh, don't you remember? And how is what I'm saying about you a reflection on me? You should "hear" how you come across. It's like your has teeth.

Soulofmysoul said:

OHHH, THAT'S you Yea, you got problems You're so wrapped up in your own obsessions & denials you can't even read my statement clearly without putting your own shit into it. But whatever, like I said push on Bi-racial crusades for everyone

And by the way, it does

CalhounSq said:

Wrapped up in my own denials and obsessions? Like my children? Yeah, that is indicative of someone with real issues.
It is hilarious that you are saying I "put my own shit into it" when you wrote that Black men are rejecting their mothers, sisters and daughters by dating outside. WHO is the one with issues here? How about minding your business for a change? Why do you let other people's choices define who you are and what you're worth? You are the crusader. You're the angry chick. I'm just trying to make the best of this life I have.

And btw...I'm sure it does. I bet you've taken fingers off with it.

Soulofmysoul said:

Your issues are your obsession w/ the whole interracial thing (I don't know what your husband/boyfriend/father of your children looks like but I wonder if they'd come out looking more Black than mixed would that have been an issue for you? Since mixed looking children/people are SO awesome to you? Should a straight up White child or a straight up Black child be loved/pampered/complimented any less than a child of mixed race?) & probably some "evil Black woman" shit, like you display below w/ your "you're the angry chick" comment.



You continue to ignore the fact that I said EXCLUSIVELY dating outside. And it goes for anyone of any race, not just Black men - I'm not personally attacking YOUR husband/boyfriend so free to come out of attack mode. That is MY opinion of people who descriminate against their own race. Deal with it & put your "Black women hate me for being with a Black man" shit ASIDE - comprehend, if you will...



Like I said, I'm addressing the topic @ hand. If you don't like these types of discussions why in the fuck are you on this thread??

I've come @ you on ONE specific issue - the "mixed people are MOST attractive" notion you rave about, which may indeed be true for YOU but not a fact that the world must accept (as you presented it)

Like I said, I have no issue with interracial couples. I know there are plenty of Black women on that "he's with a White girl!" shit - I've admitted to feeling that way in the past, but that's not me anymore believe it or not (& it sounds like you won't) :shrugh: I wouldn't even notice you & your man if you walked past me. YOU'D probably be the muthafucka to tense up b/c you think I'M trippin' off y'all

Damn, a Black woman can't even make a comment on the topic @ hand w/o being labelled "the angry chick" But it's cool, you probably still don't understand a word I'm saying b/c you're SO focused on my supposed anger We gets nowhere

I guess I better hurry up & get angry @ my White friends who are dating Black men

CalhounSq said:[quote]

Soulofmysoul said:

Okay, the thread you refer to (and I'm flattered you remember it) was strictly about my philosophy that inter-racial relationships clearly have God's seal of approval or else the bi-product of those relationships (the children) would not be so beautiful. That was my entire point. And I will always believe this. Does it mean I think God intends for everyone to pro-create with someone outside their race? Of course not. It was just my way of saying to anyone who thinks that race mixing is wrong. I was illustrating the fact, or trying to, that the bi-products of relationships that ARE wrong (ie, incest) are usually afflicted with problems, and that affirms that nature did not intend for that union to take place.

Now...getting back to present day....in no way do I feel attacked by you. I don't take personal what you said, as if you are insulting me or my family. What I take issue with is that YOU feel bad when you see a Black man with a white woman. You yourself said it's like the man is saying, "Ya'll aren't good enough for me." Do you recall saying that?

Regarding anger...it's not because you're Black that I say this. It's because you're angry. And it's fine, I mean you're allowed to be angry. But at least own it.

And regarding your very last comment....you know if I had've said some weak shit like "some of my best friends are Black" you would've gone OFF and yet that is almost exactly what you said there.
[Edited 9/27/05 13:17pm]

Soulofmysoul said:

Not to jump into this little fight...cuz its really good BUT you are twisting Calhoun's statement into something else. For example, my brother makes these generalizations that black women are mean, opinionated and nagging and yet when you ask him about his mother, sister, neice and aunts he'll be the first to say..."Oh, I'm not talking about family" My mother use to tell him all the time that he has issues. NOT that she didn't approve of her daughter in law because she really liked Lori but that my brother had some twisted way of viewing interracial relationships. Every situation, no matter what, does have a negative side and this is what Calhoun was referring to...one part of the issue.

She's actually talking about a specific type of person who puts down their own race to justify their dating habits and I don't want my nephew to put a higher value on anyone based on the color of his/her skin, so I'm concerned.


and I'll pass your reasons why interracial relationships are ok is because they make beautiful children comment. That was a little...uh...well out there for me. Two asian ppl make beautiful children, Two white ppl make beautiful children and yes interracial couples make beautiful children.


lastly, Calhoun is actually one of the funniest ppl on the Org. I think you read some of your own issues into her posts because she really didn't even imply most of what you said. Hell it happens to me as well and I'm not as "angry" as Calhoun (i'm really laughin' as I type that)


Its very obivious that this issue is close to your heart.


ok...i'm stepping out of the ring....


start fighting again.

Soulofmysoul said:

Okay I remember more of a slant than that but whatever...



OMG!! When did I EVER say "I feel bad" when I see a Black man with a White woman?? PLEASE quote me Here's what I said, which is all part of the exclusivity thing which you STILL insist on ignoring!!!

What does disappoint me though is people of ANY race who won't date within' their own race - that's a major flaw & a channel for some serious self-hate issues IMO. Black men seem particularly prone to this. While I can see why this has come about it hurts my heart when people fall for it. Love you who love, just love them for the right reasons & love your damn self

Incase you don't understand that, it means I don't like the notion of people discriminating against their own race, hence, against themselves. If I see an interracial couple walking down the street I don't feel anything about them b/c I don't know their reasons for being together other than mutual affection/love so it makes no sense for me to feel anything about them than I would any other couple. When I say it "hurts my heart" it's b/c I've actually HEARD Black men say this, that they don't date Black women b/c we're this & that, and knowing that some people feel this way is awful to me - i.e. it hurts my heart. It does NOT mean that my heart is bleeding @ the sight of interracial couples, it's the notion of exclusivity that doesn't gel w/ me. Maybe you misunderstood that w/ the way you're going on



WHERE did I get angry on this thread before you started up w/ me?? Really, I'd like to know I got smileys & shit all over my post You're making shit up now, continuing w/ your "angry Black chick" theme...



I'm following your line of reasoning, that I'm harboring some anger toward interracial relationships. Predict what you want about me going OFF - I'm the angry chick so it fits I guess

Rhondab said:

Dude, I'm tryin' to ring the bell already!

Ladies...you've worn me out (as you probably do your men).

THAT WAS ONLY A JOKE!

How about we find something to agree on?

Who loves ice cream?

Soulofmysoul said:

chocolate or vanilla?

Rhondab said:

Oreo, of course

CalhounSq said:

Ah, your tough love.

Where the white women at?

Fauxie, I LOVE LOVE LOVE your kittie avatar...but, anyways...

Muse, WHO are you rolling your eyes at, Muse???...Are you and I going to have it out regarding what it's like to be a black woman???

Muse2NOPharaoh said: