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Thread started 09/21/05 9:23am

TheResistor

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So I need some advice...

Hello, fellow orgers!

I need some clarity on a little situation. This may sound petty but it's bugging the hell out of me.

A few months ago, a friend of mine borrowed $300 bucks from me with the agreement that she would pay me back within one week. She lives in North Carolina and shortly after the check cleared she dissappeared. Never returned my phone calls, emails and text messages. Now, we're very close and we had been talking about all kinds of things before she asked for the money. She moved to North Carolina with some girl she met at the Abbey (after only a few weeks of knowing her Lesbians I don't get them). And she called me the first two months for moral support because she hated, regretted the move...whatever. Eventually I gave up calling her and figured she'd come around. When she did come around about two weeks ago, she did leave me a message apologizing for the silence and that she had been real busy and what not. Nothing about the money. I just figured that was $300 bucks I'd never see again and let it go.

So, now it turns out she and her girl are coming out here this weekend to visit. And we've talked and lodging arrangements have been made and plans to do stuff have been taking care of. But I feel that we're both ignoring the proverbial elephant in the middle of the room.

So what do I do?
Do I chalk it up to a bad investment?
or do I bring it up and ask her for the cash? If I ask her, what would be the best way as to not be so tacky (I know it's not that much money but it's the principal of thing IMO) plus I don't want to ruin her trip out here either. Should I address this before she gets here or do I ask her when she's here?

Or am I just a petty fuck and need to just let it go? It's just that I tend to be a door mat on so many things and I've slowly been starting to take care of myself and this is a perfect opportunity...oh hell I'm confused.

please advice
rainbow

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literal people scare me
out there trying to rid the world of its poetry
while getting it wrong fundamentally
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Reply #1 posted 09/21/05 9:28am

POSTDOMINANT

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If you don't really need the cash at the moment just remind her but say that she can repay you at a later date when she has the cash (fix a date though) just say you wanted to let her know so SHE didn't feel awkward and just try to ignore the situation.
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Reply #2 posted 09/21/05 9:35am

Shorty

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I think you should bring it up. try to be gentle about it but...can't just let it slide.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #3 posted 09/21/05 9:44am

CarrieLee

I think you should bring it up too. You guys had an agreement, don't let it slide.
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Reply #4 posted 09/21/05 9:49am

sociopath

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Women will take advantage of a nice guy every single time. Let this be a lesson to you. Take it from me and 50....

I don't know what you heard about me

But a bitch can't get a dollar out of me

No Cadillac, no perms, you can't see

That I'm a motherfucking P-I-M-P
Run around like a chicken, grand dragon finger lickin
Yo, turn him over wit a spatula
Now we got, Kentucky Fried Cracker
Mess with the Cube, you get punked quick
Pig, cause I'm the wrong nigga to fuck with!
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Reply #5 posted 09/21/05 9:55am

Stymie

Let it go. In the future, never lend money that you ever intend to see again.

She's not staying with you for the visit, is she?
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Reply #6 posted 09/21/05 10:00am

sinisterpentat
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i don't get this shit about making her feel awkward and ruining her trip. wacky
FUCK THAT!! I'd be like "where's my motherfuckin' money?" You better ask her now that you're in contact with her, cuz if you don't who knows when you'll here from her again?
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Reply #7 posted 09/21/05 10:01am

sinisterpentat
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Stymie said:

Let it go. In the future, never lend money that you ever intend to see again.

She's not staying with you for the visit, is she?


Could you loan me $300? batting eyes
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Reply #8 posted 09/21/05 10:06am

Stymie

sinisterpentatonic said:

Stymie said:

Let it go. In the future, never lend money that you ever intend to see again.

She's not staying with you for the visit, is she?


Could you loan me $300? batting eyes
For you, anything. batting eyes
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Reply #9 posted 09/21/05 10:36am

Ace

Doesn't sound like much of a friend to me (more like a user). Ask her point-blank when she will be returning the money. If she doesn't have it all now, work-out a strict payment plan. It's not about the money, it's about respect.
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Reply #10 posted 09/21/05 10:49am

Nothinbutjoy

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Overall, if I lend money I don't expect it back. But whether or not you get it back says something about the "friend" that borrowed it from you.

Because you have issues about people walking all over you, you need to decide how you feel about the situation.

To me, you loaned it to her expecting it back, so much so that you even had a time to expect it back, so the fact she has not returned it, disappeared and now has re-appeared ready to "visit" does suggest that she did not have any intention of paying you back.

If you want to leave the door open to this friendship then by all means do so. I can't help but wonder where the money for this "visit" is coming from. If she gets to you and gives you what she owes you, that is one thing. If she just comes ready to party and does not have your money or even brings up the subject...she is telling you she does not intend to pay you back. At that point, you need to decide if you are going to ask her for it back and even continue your friendship.

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Reply #11 posted 09/21/05 11:04am

Ace

Nothinbutjoy said:

Overall, if I lend money I don't expect it back. But whether or not you get it back says something about the "friend" that borrowed it from you.

Because you have issues about people walking all over you, you need to decide how you feel about the situation.

To me, you loaned it to her expecting it back, so much so that you even had a time to expect it back, so the fact she has not returned it, disappeared and now has re-appeared ready to "visit" does suggest that she did not have any intention of paying you back.

If you want to leave the door open to this friendship then by all means do so. I can't help but wonder where the money for this "visit" is coming from. If she gets to you and gives you what she owes you, that is one thing. If she just comes ready to party and does not have your money or even brings up the subject...she is telling you she does not intend to pay you back. At that point, you need to decide if you are going to ask her for it back and even continue your friendship.

rose

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Reply #12 posted 09/21/05 11:30am

Stymie

Nothinbutjoy said:

Overall, if I lend money I don't expect it back. But whether or not you get it back says something about the "friend" that borrowed it from you.

Because you have issues about people walking all over you, you need to decide how you feel about the situation.

To me, you loaned it to her expecting it back, so much so that you even had a time to expect it back, so the fact she has not returned it, disappeared and now has re-appeared ready to "visit" does suggest that she did not have any intention of paying you back.

If you want to leave the door open to this friendship then by all means do so. I can't help but wonder where the money for this "visit" is coming from. If she gets to you and gives you what she owes you, that is one thing. If she just comes ready to party and does not have your money or even brings up the subject...she is telling you she does not intend to pay you back. At that point, you need to decide if you are going to ask her for it back and even continue your friendship.

rose
I agree.

I hate when folks 'borrow' money and disappear and then act like they forgot about it, too. I also hate when people owe money but go out and shop and buy electronics or some other shit. Bitch, if you had the money to shop, you had the money to pay me back!!! mad

Moral of the story: don't loan money. biggrin
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Reply #13 posted 09/21/05 11:31am

CarrieLee

sociopath said:

Women will take advantage of a nice guy every single time. Let this be a lesson to you. Take it from me and 50....

I don't know what you heard about me

But a bitch can't get a dollar out of me

No Cadillac, no perms, you can't see

That I'm a motherfucking P-I-M-P


Ok then what about the men I've loaned money to and didn't get paid back?

rolleyes
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Reply #14 posted 09/21/05 11:32am

TheResistor

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Wow...thanks for all the replies guys...

I'm definately going to bring it up. And come to think about it. She still owes me for the Madonna Reinvention Tour ticket. I was unable to go and she said she'd pay be back the following week. I completely forgot about that...I'm such an ass sad
rainbow

"...literal people are scary, man
literal people scare me
out there trying to rid the world of its poetry
while getting it wrong fundamentally
down at the church of "look, it says right here, see!" - ani difranco
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Reply #15 posted 09/21/05 11:34am

CarrieLee

TheResistor said:

Wow...thanks for all the replies guys...

I'm definately going to bring it up. And come to think about it. She still owes me for the Madonna Reinvention Tour ticket. I was unable to go and she said she'd pay be back the following week. I completely forgot about that...I'm such an ass sad


I think I would just go with the $300 for now!
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Reply #16 posted 09/21/05 11:38am

Shorty

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TheResistor said:

Wow...thanks for all the replies guys...

I'm definately going to bring it up. And come to think about it. She still owes me for the Madonna Reinvention Tour ticket. I was unable to go and she said she'd pay be back the following week. I completely forgot about that...I'm such an ass sad



You should probably stop beating yourself up! You don't sound like and "ass" at all, you sound like a very nice person, who is so nice they get taken advantage of. Being that nice is nothing to be ashamed of..taking advantage of that kind of person is. biggrin
good luck to you. biggrin
you just reminded me that my sister inlaw never paid me for her ticket to the hit and run show. great!
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #17 posted 09/21/05 11:40am

CarrieLee

Shorty said:


you just reminded me that my sister inlaw never paid me for her ticket to the hit and run show. great!


That was like 5 years ago wasn't it? lol
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Reply #18 posted 09/21/05 11:45am

Shorty

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CarrieLee said:

Shorty said:


you just reminded me that my sister inlaw never paid me for her ticket to the hit and run show. great!


That was like 5 years ago wasn't it? lol

yeah...rolleyes
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #19 posted 09/21/05 11:48am

sociopath

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CarrieLee said:

sociopath said:

Women will take advantage of a nice guy every single time. Let this be a lesson to you. Take it from me and 50....

I don't know what you heard about me

But a bitch can't get a dollar out of me

No Cadillac, no perms, you can't see

That I'm a motherfucking P-I-M-P


Ok then what about the men I've loaned money to and didn't get paid back?

rolleyes


Works both ways. You were dumb to loan money out, too.
Run around like a chicken, grand dragon finger lickin
Yo, turn him over wit a spatula
Now we got, Kentucky Fried Cracker
Mess with the Cube, you get punked quick
Pig, cause I'm the wrong nigga to fuck with!
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Reply #20 posted 09/21/05 12:22pm

CarrieLee

sociopath said:

CarrieLee said:



Ok then what about the men I've loaned money to and didn't get paid back?

rolleyes


Works both ways. You were dumb to loan money out, too.


I was just trying to help out a friend. And the lesson was learned!
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Reply #21 posted 09/21/05 12:23pm

jerseykrs

CarrieLee said:

sociopath said:



Works both ways. You were dumb to loan money out, too.


I was just trying to help out a friend. And the lesson was learned!



you see? that's why I don't help anyone.
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Reply #22 posted 09/21/05 12:31pm

sinisterpentat
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jerseykrs said:

CarrieLee said:



I was just trying to help out a friend. And the lesson was learned!



you see? that's why I don't help anyone.


i wonder if i'll ever see all that money i loaned to the victims of hurricane Katrina again. sad
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Reply #23 posted 09/21/05 2:44pm

Ace

Shorty said:

Being that nice is nothing to be ashamed of..taking advantage of that kind of person is.

clapping
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Reply #24 posted 09/21/05 2:49pm

Nomadic

CarrieLee said:

sociopath said:



Works both ways. You were dumb to loan money out, too.


I was just trying to help out a friend. And the lesson was learned!


and that was very kind of you to do that hug generosity is something sorely undervalued I think nowadays...

not the same thing, but a couple of weeks ago I was out of money and it was a bad time of year and I really really wanted and needed to contact all my family back home but didn't have the money to... a close friend knew this and put £25 on a phone card so I could call my brother and family mushy now THAT'S special... may not be on a huge scale but to me it meant the world nod
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Reply #25 posted 09/21/05 5:42pm

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Reply #26 posted 09/23/05 12:34am

PEJ

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sociopath said:

Women will take advantage of a nice guy every single time. Let this be a lesson to you. Take it from me and 50....

I don't know what you heard about me

But a bitch can't get a dollar out of me

No Cadillac, no perms, you can't see

That I'm a motherfucking P-I-M-P




rolleyes looks like somebody got played ...
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #27 posted 09/23/05 12:37am

notoriousj

PEJ said:

sociopath said:

Women will take advantage of a nice guy every single time. Let this be a lesson to you. Take it from me and 50....

I don't know what you heard about me

But a bitch can't get a dollar out of me

No Cadillac, no perms, you can't see

That I'm a motherfucking P-I-M-P




rolleyes looks like somebody got played ...




That is why I always say "Don't hate the playa...hate tha game."
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Reply #28 posted 09/23/05 2:39pm

PEJ

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notoriousj said:

PEJ said:





rolleyes looks like somebody got played ...




That is why I always say "Don't hate the playa...hate tha game."







no no no!
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #29 posted 09/23/05 6:09pm

sinisterpentat
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notoriousj said:

PEJ said:





rolleyes looks like somebody got played ...




That is why I always say "Don't hate the playa...hate tha game."


how original. neutral
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