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Thread started 09/15/05 11:38am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Isn't waiting until marriage to have sex

just a fancy term for mind games?
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #1 posted 09/15/05 11:42am

StaticDeth

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That's a good statement to live by thumbs up!
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Reply #2 posted 09/15/05 11:58am

Ace

I would liken it to going for Curtain #3 on Let's Make a Deal.
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Reply #3 posted 09/15/05 12:05pm

Mach

hmm

perhaps

to distract one from playin booty games
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Reply #4 posted 09/15/05 12:06pm

ella731

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if I waited to have sex until marriage, I wouldnt have my lovely daughter
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Reply #5 posted 09/15/05 12:07pm

Ace

From Bill Maher's New Rules:

New Rule: Abstinence pledges make you horny.

In a setback for the morals/values crowd, a new eight-year study just released reveals that American teenagers who take virginity pledges wind up with just as many STD's as the other kids. But that's not all. "Taking the pledge" also makes a teenage girl six times more likely to perform oral sex, and four times more likely to allow anal. Which leads me to an important question: Where were these pledges when I was in high school?

Seriously, when I was a teenager, the only kids having anal intercourse, were the ones who missed. My idea of lubrication was oiling my bike chain. If I had known I could have been getting porn-star sex the same year I took Algebra 2 simply by joining up with the Christian right, I'd have been so down with Jesus, they would have had to pry me out of the pew.

And, let me tell you, there is a lot worse things than teenagers having sex. Namely, teenagers not having sex. Here is something you'll never hear: "That suicide bomber blew himself up because he was having too much sex. Sex, sex, sex! Nonstop! All that crazy Arab ever had was sex, and look what happened!" But among the puritans here of the 21st century, the less said to kids about sex, the better. Because people who talk about peepees are "potty-mouths."

And so, armed with limited knowledge and believing regular, vaginal intercourse to be either immaculate or filthy dirty - these kids did with their pledge what everybody does with contracts: they found loopholes. Two of them, to be exact.

Is there any greater irony than the fact that the Christian right actually got their precious little adolescent daughters to say to their freshly-scrubbed boyfriends, "Please, I want to remain pure for my wedding night, so only in the ass. And then I'll blow you." Well, at least these kids are really thinking outside the box.


falloff
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Reply #6 posted 09/15/05 12:45pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

Ace said:

From Bill Maher's New Rules:

New Rule: Abstinence pledges make you horny.

In a setback for the morals/values crowd, a new eight-year study just released reveals that American teenagers who take virginity pledges wind up with just as many STD's as the other kids. But that's not all. "Taking the pledge" also makes a teenage girl six times more likely to perform oral sex, and four times more likely to allow anal. Which leads me to an important question: Where were these pledges when I was in high school?

Seriously, when I was a teenager, the only kids having anal intercourse, were the ones who missed. My idea of lubrication was oiling my bike chain. If I had known I could have been getting porn-star sex the same year I took Algebra 2 simply by joining up with the Christian right, I'd have been so down with Jesus, they would have had to pry me out of the pew.

And, let me tell you, there is a lot worse things than teenagers having sex. Namely, teenagers not having sex. Here is something you'll never hear: "That suicide bomber blew himself up because he was having too much sex. Sex, sex, sex! Nonstop! All that crazy Arab ever had was sex, and look what happened!" But among the puritans here of the 21st century, the less said to kids about sex, the better. Because people who talk about peepees are "potty-mouths."

And so, armed with limited knowledge and believing regular, vaginal intercourse to be either immaculate or filthy dirty - these kids did with their pledge what everybody does with contracts: they found loopholes. Two of them, to be exact.

Is there any greater irony than the fact that the Christian right actually got their precious little adolescent daughters to say to their freshly-scrubbed boyfriends, "Please, I want to remain pure for my wedding night, so only in the ass. And then I'll blow you." Well, at least these kids are really thinking outside the box.


falloff




I love this. I saw it on his show.

falloff


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MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #7 posted 09/15/05 12:47pm

GoldenGlove

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I AINT WAITING! lol
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Reply #8 posted 09/15/05 12:55pm

SammiJ

falloff

i used 2 think that that was the ideal thing 2 do
but practically... shake


why wait?
if you're with someone that you love deeply, why not share it when you're both ready


marriage is nothing but a ring and a peice of paper (eventho i'm always daydreaming about having a nice wedding giggle hyprocrisy sucks)
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Reply #9 posted 09/15/05 1:07pm

Mach

SammiJ said:

falloff

i used 2 think that that was the ideal thing 2 do
but practically... shake


why wait?
if you're with someone that you love deeply, why not share it when you're both ready


marriage is nothing but a ring and a peice of paper (eventho i'm always daydreaming about having a nice wedding giggle hyprocrisy sucks)


smile marriage can be far more then that ...it is exactly what you make it...

hug
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Reply #10 posted 09/15/05 1:15pm

SammiJ

Mach said:

SammiJ said:

falloff

i used 2 think that that was the ideal thing 2 do
but practically... shake


why wait?
if you're with someone that you love deeply, why not share it when you're both ready


marriage is nothing but a ring and a peice of paper (eventho i'm always daydreaming about having a nice wedding giggle hyprocrisy sucks)


smile marriage can be far more then that ...it is exactly what you make it...

hug

hug you're right
it is more of a committment
but all the marriages i've witnessed in my life haven't all gone too well neutral

but i'm hopeful one day...one day...
i'll be some man's wife giggle
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Reply #11 posted 09/15/05 1:16pm

unlucky7

I'll just wait...not until marriage
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Reply #12 posted 09/15/05 1:22pm

REDBABY

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Yeah, cos first time I had sex, he was getting married.. but not to me.. wink
if sexy was a colour it would be red batting eyes
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Reply #13 posted 09/15/05 1:47pm

MadameS

SammiJ said:

Mach said:



smile marriage can be far more then that ...it is exactly what you make it...

hug

hug you're right
it is more of a committment
but all the marriages i've witnessed in my life haven't all gone too well neutral

but i'm hopeful one day...one day...
i'll be some man's wife giggle

eye have to ditto every word that you've said. eye put it in the hands of destiny.
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Reply #14 posted 09/15/05 4:11pm

DiscoDiva

I'm still waiting until I get married and I ain't getting married until I get paid, because men expect to much from you. So I'm like I'm not going to deal with until I make it. Then after I get 40 something I do the madonna thing. Have kids, get married. I just like my freedom and don't like the idea of being tied to down anyone.
I am The Captain Of My Soul- Disco Diva
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Reply #15 posted 09/15/05 7:07pm

StaticDeth

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ok fuck this shit... i take that back.. i so re red what you said and I think you meant that you should wait and i thought you meant that you shouldn't so i do not support this message falloff
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Reply #16 posted 09/15/05 7:46pm

Anxiety

i don't think anyone should have sex ever, for any reason. how about that?
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Reply #17 posted 09/15/05 7:47pm

BSK3478

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i don't think anyone should have sex ever, for any reason. how about that?

if prince were still stuck on nasty, he'd be crying right now.
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Reply #18 posted 09/15/05 7:48pm

Anxiety

BSK3478 said:

Anxiety said:

i don't think anyone should have sex ever, for any reason. how about that?

if prince were still stuck on nasty, he'd be crying right now.


i thought only special women made him cry.

does not compute!
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Reply #19 posted 09/15/05 7:49pm

Nero

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I'd never wait until marriage to get a piece of ass. That's just setting yourself up for trouble.

You'd never buy a car without test driving it first....
Insatiable taught me everything I know about balls.

"I was born dancing! I came dancing out of my mom's vagina! Moonwalking and stuff..." - Number23 on the telphone.
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Reply #20 posted 09/15/05 7:49pm

BSK3478

Anxiety said:

BSK3478 said:


if prince were still stuck on nasty, he'd be crying right now.


i thought only special women made him cry.

does not compute!

don't not compute, indeed. lol
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Reply #21 posted 09/15/05 7:56pm

ThreadBare

Well (maybe move this to P&R?) from a biblical perspective, the admonition to wait until marriage comes from the equation of abstinence and holiness. Entering holy matrimony, the ideal goes, the couple should be, well, holy.

Fortunately, the Bible also teaches that Christ's sacrifice imputes holiness unto we who believe on Him as our Savior. That imputation of righteousness covers we who didn't wait (aren't waiting) yet who believe on Him for eternal life.

Now how that plays out in Christian dating ranges from faithful adherence and obedience to that principle to folks getting married with their kids as ringbearers and flower girls -- if they get married at all.

This is one of the areas of discussion a ministry group at my church has been kicking around. There's been a lot of disagreement about what's permitted by the Bible -- from a boundaries perspective -- but agreement on saving sex til marriage.

At the best of times, it's been an open dialogue filled with adults just being real. At the worst of times, it's had a married minister acting like kissing was a sin and recommending adults go on group dates. whofarted God bless him.
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Reply #22 posted 09/15/05 8:52pm

Janfriend

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

just a fancy term for mind games?


No, it's a beautiful thing. No one is entitled to sex simply because they're human and/or dating
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Reply #23 posted 09/15/05 11:18pm

MadameS

Janfriend said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

just a fancy term for mind games?


No, it's a beautiful thing. No one is entitled to sex simply because they're human and/or dating

hmmm You have a point. Many fail to realize the signifigance behind engaging in the act of sex and take it for granted. When there's more than a superficial feeling lust behind it, it can truly be a fulling expereince for both partners (making love vs. just fucking).
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Reply #24 posted 09/16/05 1:16am

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I think it's a good way to gamble on your marriage lol Being married is hard enough - add a whack sex life to it & the shit is surely doomed. I think it's worth it to find out if you're sexually compatible w/ your mate. Who needs to add sexual frustration to the list of shit to work on? no no no!
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Reply #25 posted 09/16/05 1:25am

MadameS

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I think it's worth it to find out if you're sexually compatible w/ your mate.

hmmm Ok. I can see your point. But at the same time, there are couples that are sexual compatible and still end up divorce b/c one of partners ends up fucking up the marriage. I guess if a couple even stays married I guess its just a matter of compatiability all the way around not only in the bedroom but out as well.
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Reply #26 posted 09/16/05 6:46am

Ace

CalhounSq said:

I think it's a good way to gamble on your marriage lol Being married is hard enough - add a whack sex life to it & the shit is surely doomed.

lol
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Reply #27 posted 09/16/05 10:01am

Janfriend

CalhounSq said:

I think it's a good way to gamble on your marriage lol Being married is hard enough - add a whack sex life to it & the shit is surely doomed. I think it's worth it to find out if you're sexually compatible w/ your mate. Who needs to add sexual frustration to the list of shit to work on? no no no!


Just because it's wack doesn't mean it will stay wack. You should be working together as a couple to have a better sex life. You don't just take it as it is. If you do, what does that say about you?
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Reply #28 posted 09/16/05 10:14am

Ace

Janfriend said:

CalhounSq said:

I think it's a good way to gamble on your marriage lol Being married is hard enough - add a whack sex life to it & the shit is surely doomed. I think it's worth it to find out if you're sexually compatible w/ your mate. Who needs to add sexual frustration to the list of shit to work on? no no no!


Just because it's wack doesn't mean it will stay wack. You should be working together as a couple to have a better sex life. You don't just take it as it is. If you do, what does that say about you?

True, partners should work to improve their sex life together. But sometimes one wants something the other just isn't into.
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Reply #29 posted 09/16/05 1:46pm

MadameS

Ace said:

Janfriend said:



Just because it's wack doesn't mean it will stay wack. You should be working together as a couple to have a better sex life. You don't just take it as it is. If you do, what does that say about you?

True, partners should work to improve their sex life together. But sometimes one wants something the other just isn't into.

nod That's where the challeges in a relationship come in at and will determine if your relationship can stand the test of time.
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