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PrintableLleeLlee said: In college I had a deeply sarcastic English Teacher, but the thing is he was like that with everyone. He was hilarious and much of it was harmless. We used to call him Trotsky because he had a goatee and thats what he looked like. I'm sure he knew..
Maybe my teacher is trying to be "the funny prof" or something, but he's doing it horribly wrong.  | |
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Steadwood said: thescandalouslife said: If it gets worse, I will talk to the department head or to my advisor. But I'll wait 'til the semester is over so that I don't get my grade fucked with and so I don't get in a whole lotta muck that I'm sure is involved in such a complaint. As of now, I don't feel like it's something to take to the dean, but it is definitely a problem. It's only my opinion...But I would take the issue up now.. It is obviously affecting you and no one should feel isolated and victimised...especially when it has a bearing on your future.. Put yourself first and tackle the issue now .... And best of luck with your studies (concentrate on the work...not the person presenting it) 
 Just thinking about stepping into his office makes my stomach turn! 
Okay. I will try my best next week - I have the class MWF - to speak up and participate. If he still continues to make uncalled-for comments, I will go into his office Friday afternoon and tell him to shut the fuck up! | |
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thescandalouslife said: Steadwood said: It's only my opinion...But I would take the issue up now.. It is obviously affecting you and no one should feel isolated and victimised...especially when it has a bearing on your future.. Put yourself first and tackle the issue now .... And best of luck with your studies (concentrate on the work...not the person presenting it)
Just thinking about stepping into his office makes my stomach turn!
Okay. I will try my best next week - I have the class MWF - to speak up and participate. If he still continues to make uncalled-for comments, I will go into his office Friday afternoon and tell him to shut the fuck up! That's better!!! ... 
...er....use some diplomacy....  ....you are better than they...
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i had the same thing at college they said why dont you ever smile why dont you talk you look ill are you aneamic  .
im sure they were just concerned but 
when they realised that their approach wasnt helping they stopped | |
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also you may want to take a tape recorder with you, and record the his lecture and comments for a few days..just as proof for when you decide to talk to the dean, they know that you aren't bullshitting around or just whining about the class. [Edited 9/10/05 7:44am] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Um, Scandalous Life, don't you dare ask questions in class that you know the answer to.
Don't you deny yourself for his edification. I hate when people do this (whether it's girls with their boyfriends or workers with their pretentious bosses) Do not play down your own greatness to make someone else feel better. You've got the scholarships. You've got the brains. If he thinks you don't deserve them. Fuck him. You do not have to speak up in class if you don't want to. Play this game your way. Do well on your assignments. If you know an answer, proffer it. Even correct or challenge his point of view during discusssions. He'll hate that. I don't know if you're secure enough to do that. If you're truly shy, you won't be able to. So, confront the problem. I'd approach him first rather than go over his head. Since you don't want to go to his office. Write a letter and slip under his door or email him. Let him know you don't think academic bullying by humiliation is an acceptable style of class management. Tell him that if he persists, your next letter will be to the dean of the school. This provides documentation. Which is to me more effective than an oral confrontation. I'm willing to bet he won't even talk to you after that. But if he does, write straight to the dean, send him a copy of your letter to the dean in which you request a conference. And then see the dean in person. Don't worry about your grade. You've made it this far, so you're going to graduate with a pretty good GPA. At this point in your life as you retreat from forces trying to bring you down, you need to learn that principles are more important than grades. Self-respect is more important than appeasing a supervisor. This is not the first time this will happen. People love to stamp out greatness. They get a kick out of breaking people. That's what's going on with this professor. He's getting some psychological kicks out of traumatizing you. Don't be foolish enough to consider that this is his way of saying he likes you ...It might be, but what does it matter: I mean you wouldn't forgive an abusive boyfriend who shows his love with a right hook. It's the same principle. Don't take this shit. [Edited 9/10/05 8:36am] [Edited 9/10/05 8:38am] | |
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SynthiaRose said: Um, Scandalous Life, don't you dare ask questions in class that you know the answer to.
Don't you deny yourself for his edification. I hate when people do this (whether it's girls with their boyfriends or workers with their pretentious bosses) Do not play down your own greatness to make someone else feel better. You've got the scholarships. You've got the brains. If he thinks you don't deserve them. Fuck him. You do not have to speak up in class if you don't want to. Play this game your way. Do well on your assignments. If you know an answer, proffer it. Even correct or challenge his point of view during discusssions. He'll hate that. I don't know if you're secure enough to do that. If you're truly shy, you won't be able to. So, confront the problem. I'd approach him first rather than go over his head. Since you don't want to go to his office. Write a letter and slip under his door or email him. Let him know you don't think academic bullying by humiliation is an acceptable style of class management. Tell him that if he persists, your next letter will be to the dean of the school. This provides documentation. Which is to me more effective than an oral confrontation. I'm willing to bet he won't even talk to you after that. But if he does, write straight to the dean, send him a copy of your letter to the dean in which you request a conference. And then see the dean in person. Don't worry about your grade. You've made it this far, so you're going to graduate with a pretty good GPA. At this point in your life as you retreat from forces trying to bring you down, you need to learn that principles are more important than grades. Self-respect is more important than appeasing a supervisor. This is not the first time this will happen. People love to stamp out greatness. They get a kick out of breaking people. That's what's going on with this professor. He's getting some psychological kicks out of traumatizing you. Don't be foolish enough to consider that this is his way of saying he likes you ...It might be, but what does it matter: I mean you wouldn't forgive an abusive boyfriend who shows his love with a right hook. It's the same principle. Don't take this shit. [Edited 9/10/05 8:36am] [Edited 9/10/05 8:38am] Damn! That was some hard-hitting stuff! Thank you so much. You're right; I am way too shy to combat him in class, particularly because the class material is currently dry and boring - parts of speech, grammar, etc. But even if I squeak by with a C, my GPA will still be good, but I would hate for him to drag it down, and I know he will by docking points from my participation grade (20%). Also, I plan on going to grad school and I don't want one mediocre grade to mar my record. Fuck. You're so right. I do need to do something, or else I'd be letting him win. I just need to work up the courage is all. | |
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Tom said: Just bite your lip and do your best in the class, then when the semester is over trash him on the review.
Dealing with mean teachers is just part of the whole college experience. They're not all gonna be your best friend. You just gotta learn how to adapt, and get the most out of the course. Right, because that's how people are in the world and in employment. Gotta learn to deal with them. | |
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Tom said: Just bite your lip and do your best in the class, then when the semester is over trash him on the review.
Dealing with mean teachers is just part of the whole college experience. They're not all gonna be your best friend. You just gotta learn how to adapt, and get the most out of the course. This is so obviously the wrong way to go about it. Don't bite your lip. Don't ignore the problem in the hope that it will go away. Educators have a responbility to ensure that each student is treated fairly and not singled out for the kind of treatment you are receiving. If you don't feel comfortable enough talking to the teacher or the head of your department about it, your instituion will have no doubt have a student body with whom you can raise the issue. If you don't feel that the problem is going to be solved by informal arbitration, there should also be a formal complaints process in place. Don't feel like you're being awkward or bitchy. If there's a problem, your institution needs to rectify it. Let us know how you get on,please. Breddie. | |
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Kick him in the plums | |
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If you don't want to go talk to him, write him a note. And document every instance that he has said something degrading. Like these times you have just told us about. If he doesn't cut the crap, send the whole list to the dean of academics. Send the list to the professor too, and keep a copy of the note in case you have to give it to the higher powers. Its too early in the semester to put up with that crap for a whole semester.
If you get a bad grade, fight it. Appeal the grade, but make sure your documentation has reached the proper channels. With all the grammar correct of course  | |
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Tom said: Just bite your lip and do your best in the class, then when the semester is over trash him on the review.
Dealing with mean teachers is just part of the whole college experience. They're not all gonna be your best friend. You just gotta learn how to adapt, and get the most out of the course.  
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moderatorWell, I'm an asshole, so I tend to ignore what people say about me. 
One of the things I always bear in mind is that the other person is providing me a service, and all I care about is getting that service or product. Whether or not we walk away happy or best friends is completely the last thing on my mind. I've had a teacher who completely despised me becuase I pointed out that another student's paper was awful. But the truth was, she spelled out the rules plain and simply, then had us write a paper (it was a basic english composition course), and almost every rule she presented, this person broke. (plus I didn't like this person anyways--he picked on my in middle school, and I didn't see him again till college at which point, I was better looking and "hipper" than he was.) (yes, I'm a drama queen )
My point is so what if he doesn't like you? Don't be so sensative. If you cross your t's and dot your i's, you'll do fine. You can even try kissing his ass even if you dislike him. Stay after class and ask him a few questions that you have absolutely no care in the world about. I've been known to butter up my teachers and such just to get a good grade--no shame in my game, all I care about is getting that grade.
anyways, you'll do fine. | |
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thescandalouslife said: lilmissmissy said: Does he only do this 2 you?
See...da thing is here, is dat as an experienced lecturer...he needz better interaction skillz himself- 2 b using strange kinda bullying tacticz 2 make you speak up as such. This remindz me of an experience I had early in highschool- my first year 2 b precise! And 2 cut a slightly long story short, she picked on me every single class- humiliating me and consequently I use 2 come home crying cause i'd never felt so degraded- especially by a teacher. She kinda scared da crap out of me 2 Anywayz, over time she warmed 2 me- whatever sorta 'preconcieved' notionz she had had about me- for whatever reason it may have been (that she'd had them in the first place  ) had melted away when I had her for home room teacher da year after- and she finally kinda 'got'me i guess ....itz kinda hard 2 explain without goin in2 detailz but eh.
Look, it MAY be his teaching style- who knowz, but truly I think ya gotta talk 2 him. You know, make your point, yet be polite...i'm sure he'll appreciate dat you have confronted him in da first place (especially if he is a real bully) and it may prevent him from singling you out. Having said all this- if class-participation is a requirement, if speaking up dauntz you, just keep thinkin 'i need 2 kick ass' think about aiming 2 clock up as much markz as you can where you can- treat it like a game for yourself! Good luck!! His delivery makes him come across as an asshole in general, but yes, he only picks on me to that extent. I mean, he will pick on other people, but he laughs about it and makes a joke of it. When it comes to me, he is not laughing. And he has never called anyone else stupid, or lacking in "intellectual development." I think that part of the reason he's doing it is because I've received several English dept. scholarships. Because he's on the English faculty, he knows this. I think he's trying to test me. Regardless, it's wrong, and it's unfair. Wow, he soundz like an asshole. Knowing dat you have recieved several scholarhipz from the English dept. I believe dat if you had 2 try and mentally visualise what he'z thinkin, what he'z doin and da whyz you will find dat- he is clearly threatened by you. Because ultimately, with the odd exception here n there, lecturerz either 1) run high on the amount of money they earn based on every single student they have per intake or 2) on pure EGO. Like i said, there are exceptionz 4 sure!! But letz face it, in every walk of life you've got your genuinely good, and your unfortunate ass. And in your case, you got an unfortunate ass. You could take two different approachez on this unfortunate ass. 1) You can play the ass at his ridiculous psychological game- that is, prove him wrong in the same manner he is trying to prove YOU wrong, if dat makez any sense... or 2) As mentioned in other responsez here, and like i said before- just approach him. Actually i really do feel if you approach him itz just gonna lift a heavy weight off your shoulderz!! Then you can get on with the boring-ass subject, pass it, and not have 2 worry about it in the next semester!! 
Also- he doesn't teach any other subjectz (coursez) in your degree does he?  No hablo espanol,no! 
Pero hablo ingles..ssii muy muy bien...
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PANDURITO said: He's obviously in love with you
I have to agree with you. It's obvious that this professor is playing a mind fuck game b/c he secretly wants to get in Scandalous' pants. She should confront him and call his bluff. He's getting off on her insecurities (shyness). | |
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Thanks again, everyone...you've given me some direction and a greater perspective of the problem. You've also validated the discomfort I am facing in this classroom.
I'll keep you updated. | |
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luv4u said: Tom said: Just bite your lip and do your best in the class, then when the semester is over trash him on the review.
Dealing with mean teachers is just part of the whole college experience. They're not all gonna be your best friend. You just gotta learn how to adapt, and get the most out of the course. NO! Stand up for yourself! | |
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