yes its me back with another expose, this is cruel beyond belief but it has to be watched so that you can spread the word

http://www.petatv.com/tvp...speed=_med

Only on my face these days.

not gonna watch it myself ... been there done that

Mach said:

I didnt know you had a beard Mach? Pics...

WOW!

That is probably the most disturbing piece of footage I have ever seen.

I am fairly robust emotionally, but that was Phisically disturbing. I know you are trying to make a point but please post warnings.

JDINTERACTIVE said:

Pro Fur Here!

PREDOMINANT said:

I'm glad I haven't watched it

PREDOMINANT said:

I had to watch it through my fingers and i still feel sick at the thought of those poor racoons..As to warnings yes i forgot to do that sorry...

It is however important that I/we bring these cruelties to light..

Mach said:

Woah, you is pretty.

Oh my god, that's fucking terrible. I don't wear fur, but I do have a lot of leather. I'm hoping that's a different process? Excuse my ignorance!

JDINTERACTIVE said:

CarrieLee said:

Its alright to wear cows. Ive looked into it.

I wont watch it. I can only imagine what is on it..

Oh, and I dont wear real fur.

JDINTERACTIVE said:

I forgot...they electrocute the cows before they slaughter them. I don't even wanna think about it!

I can't watch ... and I would never, ever wear fur.

CarrieLee said:

I think you have to put a lot of this "cruelty to animals" in perspective. I think we should think about it. But don't assume that all meat, leather or even fur for that matter, is produced under inhumane circumstances.

The "lets all be Vegans" debate just isn't going to work, but the "lets at least treat the animals well before we eat them" debate might.

A well justified balanced approach to these issues (and others for that matter) will bring about change a lot faster than extremism.

CarrieLee said:

Fun!

PREDOMINANT said:

Pretty much!- I didn't even watch the whole thing -- I always thought fur was very unnessesary- we do have flecce, cotton, and wool to keep us warm- without killing or hurting anything -- Not only are they killing these creatures look at the manor in which they do

REDFEATHERS said:

Llama!

CynthiasSocks said:

your kidding....

I never got the appeal of fur (real or faux), and it's not because of animal cruelty. I still eat meat, so I can't go around getting on those who wear real fur. It's just a personal choice, I guess.
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I dont wear real fur.

PREDOMINANT said:

Oh yes, you are absolutely right I have worked in the milk/meat "industry" myself and I know that a lot of farmers do the very best they can for their animals. Of course there are idiots too, but there are idiots owning every type of animal in the world, we just gotta find them and punish them.

I will continue to eat meat and wear leather and that's it.

AnckSuNamun said:

Yes you can get on those people's cases because the animals used for furs aren't used for ANYTHING ELSE, except mink oil and other unnecessary shit. They kill and skin the animals, then it's all waste. DON'T WEAR FUR!

unlucky7 said:

Oh Hell no honey! Prepair to hate me.

I've got a gorgeous $12,000 fully let out male pelt mink bomber.
A beautiful $8,000 female plet raccoon over coat.
Two shearling coats- a chocolate brown adult and butter cream baby lamb. $4,000.
And leather... Goddamn! I've got some leather, but more lambskin than cow. Gloves, pants, shirts, belts, shoes, and jackets. Oh and I've got lots of snake skin too.

I adore fur and animal skins! My next fur purchase will be a navy style pea coat made of seal.

I'm against FAKE fur!

Ok that totaled me. Maybe I am a heap after watching New Orleans. That was disturbing on a deep level.....

PREDOMINANT said:

I run more along this line.