Not my favourite breed but this film tugged my heartstrings
http://www.pitbullproblem.tk/

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Dont we just As i said its not my favourite breed but who are these maniacs that continually do this???makes me so angry GRRRRR... I once was at my vets and in walked this pitiful creature, it had been a racing Greyhound who when no longer a winner was abandoned up the hills , thankfully someone found it but it was skin and bone god I hugged it and kissed it and kept phoning the vets every day to see how it was doing, thankfully it pulled through and now lives with a loving family, one of the lucky ones that dog

doggonewalkies said:

I have never tratted a dog in my life

I've kicked the shit outta a few though

doggonewalkies said:

greyhound racing, dog fighting, horse racing, animal acts in circuses - all abuse in the name of "entertainment" and for one reason and one reason only - greed. surely, we'll pay for that blatant disregard of other creatures at some point.

LadyB0yCabDriver said:

I know slight spelling mistake but it wouldnt take a genius to work out what i meant..or would it ??? hmmmmm

IrresistibleB1tch said:

I think i like you IB you seem to be on the same thought plain as myself

LadyB0yCabDriver said:

[not nice snip - luv4u]

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Yeah...distressed animals don't taste as nice as free range ones stop this cruelty in the name of a decent Kebab!

The link isn't opening for me and, to be honest, if it's to do with cruelty in any way I'm not sure I want to see it.

Can someone please tell me what it's about?

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Reincarnate said:

Well basically it's a movie of a Pitbull doin' what it was bred 4

God gave us dominion over beast..We can do what we want 2 them according 2 Genesis in the old Testament so get off this silly ban the bomb, save the whale shit...their here 4 food, clothing and entertainment...and 4 some the occasional beastiality experience

Reincarnate said:

it shows the graphic truth behind dog fighting.

Reincarnate its about the way different people treat Pittbulls some are cruel making vicious fighting dogs, some are loving owners who trust these dogs with their kids, its a very thought provoking video

I totally agree with the message that people should not mistreat
animals or keep them for a certain use and dispose of them once
they fail to meet the "required" standards of what these people
consider a worthy standard to keep investing time/love in these
animals.

However, I don't agree with all the content of the flash file.

The dogs shown in this film are not family dogs as the clip has
you believe. They were not intended to be family dogs but folks
have turned them into such.

You can't really blame the animal for snapping or even killing
someone if you know the danger beforehand and accept that this
is a very powerful animal that could kill a grown cow let alone
your 4 month old baby.

Some people are just completely fucked in the head, keeping a
dog like that with small children. If you're willing to take
the risk as an adult, fine, but to subject children to your own
choice like that is very bad judgement imo.

Furthermore, I don't care who the hell you are and how lovely
your pitbull has been up until now, I'd still prefer it if you
keep him/her on a leash when walking down the street so that I
won't have to piss myself again when I'm walking down there
with my small 22 pound dog and your musclemachine follows us at
the heal for 10 minutes sniffing and grunting and growling like
mad.

I'm not saying don't have these dogs, they're fine, by all means
but please think before you get one and take care of it and the
people you subject to it's presence.

People always say "oh but he's lovely", "oh but he's never even
growled in all his 8 years of being with us", "oh but he sleeps
next to our newborn". blabla. Just reminds me of the story about
that old man in the animal sanctuary in Africa who had raised a
little lion and walked it to a slope to watch the sunset with it
every day for years and years. Until one day the man did not come
back and the lion just ate him.

Animals are animals, not people and don't reason the same way we
do.

I don't care what you say, as long as you've got an animal on a
leash that could kill my dog, me and you at the same time, I'd
be very appreciative if you keep it as far away from me as may
be humanly possible. That's not ignorance, that's selfpreservation.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

oh how awful ... this is something that is illegal in our country and yet people still breed dogs to do it. Actually, even pit bull terriers are banned from Britain because of the reason they've been bred.

doggonewalkies said:

Thanks doggone. I absolutely abhor dogfighting, cockeral fighting, badger baiting, hare coursing and all those other ways men have found of being cruel to animals and calling it "sport".

Expressing my contempt for people who participate in such practices is almost impossible to do - I hate this type of thing with every fibre of my being.

Thanks for making a thread on the subject.

LadyB0yCabDriver said:

can't be bothered edit
[b][Edited 8/31/05 5:14am]

nevamind
[Edited 8/31/05 5:18am]

Reincarnate said:

on second thoughts, yes I can be bothered: Where does it say in Genesis that you can do what you want to animals, even beastiality?

IstenSzek said:

I agree with many of your points and I was in two minds as to which way I would reply to this thread.

Like you, viewing those pictures of the dogs with the kids was almost more gruesome than those of the injured and mistreated dogs.

The point of the film though….. to dispel the very assumptions you and I are drawn towards.

The clip did make me think a little outside of that which I already know. It is not the animal that is bad but the person who “cares” for it kind of deal. There is obviously an unfair stigma attached to Pit Bulls and while I don’t necessarily agree with the statistics presented, all dogs are descended from wolves and are therefore capable of killing for survival. It is unfair to discriminate a dog who is essentially like all others. The need for survival (or pack protection) is indeed inherent but can be affected for better or worse by the owner.

Has the breeding of Pit Bulls affected the gene pool sufficiently to render the entire breed more aggressive by nature? I don’t know.

PREDOMINANT said:

beyond behavior - and i know of pit bulls and similar breeds who are perfectly fine animals, as well as some who have shown tremendous aggression - it worries me that these dogs have been bred with a powerful jaw and the instinct not to let go once they have bitten something. even if you had a very aggressive poodle, he doesn't have the power to do the damage one of these animals can inflict.

this is a relatively need breed, but i'm hearing people act as if phasing out this breed means doing away with all dogs. we had plenty of loving companion animals before greedy breeders (redundant, i know) came up with this particular group of breeds. seeing that many people are obviously incapable of caring for these animals properly, i think the responsible thing to do is to phase out these breeds before more children, adults and animals are hurt and killed.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

I am surprised (or maybe not really :confused:) to see you take this stance. It would seem more logical, and easier to enforce a tighter control on dog licensing. Remove the need to breed and the dogs popularity will wane, and with it the breed.

PREDOMINANT said:

i'm full of surprises!

in this particular case, i doubt that dog licensing efforts would do much good. many who breed, own and fight these dogs don't give a rat's ass about licensing ordinances. and as long as there is money to be made, people will breed.

my concerns are also for the many dogs of these breeds who are euthanized - our local animal shelter does not adopt out any fighting breeds that come in, so they are killed. fortunately (relatively speaking), they have humane euthanasia practices, but other shelters in the area still gas their unwanted animals in very outdated gas chambers. it's not fair to create a life just to have it killed later.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

totally agree on that point

Across the street from me before I moved there were dog fights going on....until I called in about it! Poor dogs!!

It also scared me cause I have a big dog who is an inside dog but she loves to just sit outside..and it's crossed my mind that if an asshole from across the street seen her and stole her what could have happened...scary...

So now those folks are gone...and there were 3 dead dogs found in the backyard, and one half gone dog on the porch...Hopefully he was saved...


I just can't understand how people could be so mean..

IrresistibleB1tch said:

oooh, and so cynical!



I get ya now