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Thread started 08/29/05 6:28am

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Who do you know that the world will miss someday?

Now that he's 71, I worry a lot about my father and have been thinking about what the world would be like without him in it.

He's one of the most complex individuals I've ever met. Very contradictory. Gregarious and extroverted, he has hundreds of friends, many of whom find him highly amusing and intelligent and great company to be with. It means a lot to my father to have his friends around him, and to be well-respected in his community.

We have had our problems in the past. We're both stubborn and he was very strict whilst I was very rebellious. Like I said, he's a complex character and the dynamics of our relationship have been varied - fear and respect being the two that come to mind. He has never told me he loves me, nor I him. But there is love there.

He is an extraordinary man, fluent in at least five languages (I think it may be more like 7) and still well-versed in current affairs. He finds it difficult to express emotion or love. But I know it's there within him and he does feel it greatly for his family. He's a very proud man, a man of good standing who commands respect from those around him.

He has been an amazing friend to many people, and has made a good life for himself in England, having come here from India when he was 19 with no possessions and no money. He is now moderately wealthy and very well-respected. Most of all, he's a hard worker and has worked all his life. (Currently he's fitting and retiling a bathroom for my mum - at 71!)

I think the world will miss his energy, his spark, his amazing capacity to make friends and to communicate with people. I have never met anyone quite like my father and it's always a compliment to me when people meet him for the first time and tell me how amazing he is.
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Reply #1 posted 08/29/05 6:47am

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hi Kiren - great thread idea! despite your differences with your father, i can tell you have a great deal of love and respect for him. hug

i know a woman who just sparkles at age 85 or there-abouts. she goes by Scotty, and few people know her real name, Gertrude. trust me, she's no "Gertrude"... lol

she was in the Air Force at an early age and has some fascinating stories to tell. she raised three daughters, one of whom died of cancer several years ago. when i met her, she had just lost her husband, and decided to volunteer in our community center. she was an actress, mostly in local theater and some commercials, and she has been involved in children's theater for many years. she has a fantastic sense of humor, loves politics, and gives back to the community in a variety of ways. she drives a bright green VW Beetle, and wears some of the most fabulous, funny jewelry - my favorite are a pair of "catfish" earrings.

needless to say, i want to be just like her when i "grow up". lol
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Reply #2 posted 08/29/05 6:51am

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your Dad sounds like a great old gentleman, still rebuilding kitchens at 71 wow...
i have a grandad who is 89 and still walks 3 plus miles every night after his tea, he is such a sweety and i truly will miss him when his time comes, which i hope isnt for a good few years yet. I lost my own Dad 4 years ago but i feel he is still with me, we had a special bond.
As to your original question who do i think the world will miss when no longer here... mankind i guess but by then itll be too late...god that is deep
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Reply #3 posted 08/29/05 7:33am

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

hi Kiren - great thread idea! despite your differences with your father, i can tell you have a great deal of love and respect for him. hug

i know a woman who just sparkles at age 85 or there-abouts. she goes by Scotty, and few people know her real name, Gertrude. trust me, she's no "Gertrude"... lol

she was in the Air Force at an early age and has some fascinating stories to tell. she raised three daughters, one of whom died of cancer several years ago. when i met her, she had just lost her husband, and decided to volunteer in our community center. she was an actress, mostly in local theater and some commercials, and she has been involved in children's theater for many years. she has a fantastic sense of humor, loves politics, and gives back to the community in a variety of ways. she drives a bright green VW Beetle, and wears some of the most fabulous, funny jewelry - my favorite are a pair of "catfish" earrings.

needless to say, i want to be just like her when i "grow up". lol


wow ... she sounds amazing. I would like to be like that too! I'm sure a lot of people have a lot of love and respect for her ... she sounds like she must've bucked some stereotypes in her time as well as being a really positive force in this world.

I want more people like these in the world please God! pray
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Reply #4 posted 08/29/05 7:34am

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your Dad sounds like a great old gentleman, still rebuilding kitchens at 71 wow...
i have a grandad who is 89 and still walks 3 plus miles every night after his tea, he is such a sweety and i truly will miss him when his time comes, which i hope isnt for a good few years yet. I lost my own Dad 4 years ago but i feel he is still with me, we had a special bond.
As to your original question who do i think the world will miss when no longer here... mankind i guess but by then itll be too late...god that is deep


Thankyou doggone smile

... ps that's one hell of an achievement, walking 3+ miles a day at 89!
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Reply #5 posted 08/30/05 7:25pm

Mach

perhaps it will be the young child that dies to soon ...

the one that would have done incredible things for humankind

you know, that strange little kid that everyone poked fun at in grade school

the one that was accidently killed on his bike on saturday
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Reply #6 posted 08/30/05 7:33pm

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Mach said:

perhaps it will be the young child that dies to soon ...

the one that would have done incredible things for humankind

you know, that strange little kid that everyone poked fun at in grade school

the one that was accidently killed on his bike on saturday

sad or the girl who was killed on her school camp yesterday when a tree fell down onto her tent during a very windy night. Her tent-mate escaped without a scratch.
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Reply #7 posted 08/30/05 7:34pm

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Reply #8 posted 08/30/05 9:22pm

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chico4U said:


hug Chico - those were lovely words.
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Reply #9 posted 08/31/05 2:49am

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Reincarnate said:

chico4U said:


hug Chico - those were lovely words.



hug thank you.
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Reply #10 posted 08/31/05 4:35am

Byron

I've had very similar thoughts concerning my father as well...he turned 82 this year, and still resides in a state hospital due to issues of dementia and paranoia. It's sobering to have to face the realistic fact that I know his days are numbered without there needing to be any unforeseen accident or illness. They just are. rose

And I also think of his amazing life, much of which I didn't know about until the last 10 years or so...he started writing an autobiography which is full of some amazing facts and experiences that he had as a small child. He talks about the breakup of his family, the last time he saw his mother, the feeling of never seeing his sisters again, of barely knowing his father...and I added all these things into what I already know and admire about him, and this extraordinary and fully formed soul comes to life now whenever I think of my dad. It's like I "get" him so much more now, and it only makes me sadder when I witness his mental faculties deteriorating...*sigh*


I'm not sure what Life will feel like once he's passed on... sad

He's been wanting to also try and write a book based on the black soldier's experiences in World War II and upon the war's end...he has mountains of researched tucked away in a self storage locker in Texas. I practically know all his war stories by heart, to the point that I wondered if I'd try to make that book a reality for him before he dies, or even after if necessary. I tried starting to do just that while he was still living here with me, asking questions, taking notes, and retyping both the start of his autobiography as well as his WWII memoirs...I think I may still try and do that.
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Reply #11 posted 08/31/05 5:16am

Mach

Byron said:

I've had very similar thoughts concerning my father as well...he turned 82 this year, and still resides in a state hospital due to issues of dementia and paranoia. It's sobering to have to face the realistic fact that I know his days are numbered without there needing to be any unforeseen accident or illness. They just are. rose

And I also think of his amazing life, much of which I didn't know about until the last 10 years or so...he started writing an autobiography which is full of some amazing facts and experiences that he had as a small child. He talks about the breakup of his family, the last time he saw his mother, the feeling of never seeing his sisters again, of barely knowing his father...and I added all these things into what I already know and admire about him, and this extraordinary and fully formed soul comes to life now whenever I think of my dad. It's like I "get" him so much more now, and it only makes me sadder when I witness his mental faculties deteriorating...*sigh*


I'm not sure what Life will feel like once he's passed on... sad

He's been wanting to also try and write a book based on the black soldier's experiences in World War II and upon the war's end...he has mountains of researched tucked away in a self storage locker in Texas. I practically know all his war stories by heart, to the point that I wondered if I'd try to make that book a reality for him before he dies, or even after if necessary. I tried starting to do just that while he was still living here with me, asking questions, taking notes, and retyping both the start of his autobiography as well as his WWII memoirs...I think I may still try and do that.



rose hug
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Reply #12 posted 08/31/05 5:22am

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Kiren, as his daughter his traits and qualities will still exist, even after he has moved on. You are such a great person, and surely you see his qualities in yourself and so does the world. Now and in the future. Souns like your father is a very special and wise man. I think it is great that you speak so highly of your father. More people should. Reading what you wrote, I now see what caused you to be such a great woman!
hug Much love to ya girlfriend! Keep in touch.
MWUAH!
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Reply #13 posted 08/31/05 5:25am

Reincarnate

billyjackbitch said:

Kiren, as his daughter his traits and qualities will still exist, even after he has moved on. You are such a great person, and surely you see his qualities in yourself and so does the world. Now and in the future. Souns like your father is a very special and wise man. I think it is great that you speak so highly of your father. More people should. Reading what you wrote, I now see what caused you to be such a great woman!
hug Much love to ya girlfriend! Keep in touch.
MWUAH!

Do you know how much I love you girl? hug Thankyou.
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Reply #14 posted 08/31/05 5:47am

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Great thread topic.

I'd say the world is full of amazing people, with amazing stories and experiences, all of whom will be a great loss to us all. The crime is that we celebrate and try to emulate the lives of sad, money driven Hollywood wanabees instead of lifes real celebrities.
Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard!
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Reply #15 posted 08/31/05 5:48am

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PREDOMINANT said:

Cloudbuster


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Cloudbuster said:

PREDOMINANT said:

Cloudbuster


touched


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One of those very people!
Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard!
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Reply #17 posted 08/31/05 5:53am

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PREDOMINANT said:

Cloudbuster said:

touched


nod

One of those very people!


lol razz
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Reply #18 posted 08/31/05 5:57am

Natisse

there are many who will be missed and ARE missed still nod



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Reply #19 posted 08/31/05 5:57am

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Cloudbuster said:

PREDOMINANT said:



nod

One of those very people!


lol razz


Now I've made my point you can Fuck off lol
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Now I've made my point you can Fuck off lol


Will do, bitch. smile
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Reply #21 posted 08/31/05 10:19am

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Reincarnate said:

Now that he's 71, I worry a lot about my father and have been thinking about what the world would be like without him in it.

He's one of the most complex individuals I've ever met. Very contradictory. Gregarious and extroverted, he has hundreds of friends, many of whom find him highly amusing and intelligent and great company to be with. It means a lot to my father to have his friends around him, and to be well-respected in his community.

We have had our problems in the past. We're both stubborn and he was very strict whilst I was very rebellious. Like I said, he's a complex character and the dynamics of our relationship have been varied - fear and respect being the two that come to mind. He has never told me he loves me, nor I him. But there is love there.

He is an extraordinary man, fluent in at least five languages (I think it may be more like 7) and still well-versed in current affairs. He finds it difficult to express emotion or love. But I know it's there within him and he does feel it greatly for his family. He's a very proud man, a man of good standing who commands respect from those around him.

He has been an amazing friend to many people, and has made a good life for himself in England, having come here from India when he was 19 with no possessions and no money. He is now moderately wealthy and very well-respected. Most of all, he's a hard worker and has worked all his life. (Currently he's fitting and retiling a bathroom for my mum - at 71!)

I think the world will miss his energy, his spark, his amazing capacity to make friends and to communicate with people. I have never met anyone quite like my father and it's always a compliment to me when people meet him for the first time and tell me how amazing he is.
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the loss of a father is very hard to bear. mine died in the summer of 2001. we were on good terms but to this day i still grieve his absence from my life.

not that you asked for advice but be sure to tell your father frequently how much he means to you
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Reply #22 posted 08/31/05 1:40pm

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XxAxX said:

Reincarnate said:

Now that he's 71, I worry a lot about my father and have been thinking about what the world would be like without him in it.

He's one of the most complex individuals I've ever met. Very contradictory. Gregarious and extroverted, he has hundreds of friends, many of whom find him highly amusing and intelligent and great company to be with. It means a lot to my father to have his friends around him, and to be well-respected in his community.

We have had our problems in the past. We're both stubborn and he was very strict whilst I was very rebellious. Like I said, he's a complex character and the dynamics of our relationship have been varied - fear and respect being the two that come to mind. He has never told me he loves me, nor I him. But there is love there.

He is an extraordinary man, fluent in at least five languages (I think it may be more like 7) and still well-versed in current affairs. He finds it difficult to express emotion or love. But I know it's there within him and he does feel it greatly for his family. He's a very proud man, a man of good standing who commands respect from those around him.

He has been an amazing friend to many people, and has made a good life for himself in England, having come here from India when he was 19 with no possessions and no money. He is now moderately wealthy and very well-respected. Most of all, he's a hard worker and has worked all his life. (Currently he's fitting and retiling a bathroom for my mum - at 71!)

I think the world will miss his energy, his spark, his amazing capacity to make friends and to communicate with people. I have never met anyone quite like my father and it's always a compliment to me when people meet him for the first time and tell me how amazing he is.
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the loss of a father is very hard to bear. mine died in the summer of 2001. we were on good terms but to this day i still grieve his absence from my life.

not that you asked for advice but be sure to tell your father frequently how much he means to you


I'm very sorry to hear that, and thankyou for the advice. I dread the day that I lose either of my parents (I really feel for all those of you that have). I'm lucky that I have them both here still, and I appreciate that.

I totally take your point about telling him how much he means to me - this is something I can't do, unfortunately. I can't go into details but for being a wonderful person in some respects he is also very complex and wouldn't handle me telling him that very well. (I was belittled quite a bit as a child if I ever showed feelings or emotions).

I do try to involve myself in his life now, and in that way have shown him I love and care for him. Like I said, he's very complex, but I know he's brought a lot into the world and I'm so thankful for having known him (even if I don't think I'll ever understand him).
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Reply #23 posted 08/31/05 1:49pm

Byron

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rose hug

Thank you... rose
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Reply #24 posted 08/31/05 1:56pm

Reincarnate

Byron said:

I've had very similar thoughts concerning my father as well...he turned 82 this year, and still resides in a state hospital due to issues of dementia and paranoia. It's sobering to have to face the realistic fact that I know his days are numbered without there needing to be any unforeseen accident or illness. They just are. rose

And I also think of his amazing life, much of which I didn't know about until the last 10 years or so...he started writing an autobiography which is full of some amazing facts and experiences that he had as a small child. He talks about the breakup of his family, the last time he saw his mother, the feeling of never seeing his sisters again, of barely knowing his father...and I added all these things into what I already know and admire about him, and this extraordinary and fully formed soul comes to life now whenever I think of my dad. It's like I "get" him so much more now, and it only makes me sadder when I witness his mental faculties deteriorating...*sigh*


I'm not sure what Life will feel like once he's passed on... sad

He's been wanting to also try and write a book based on the black soldier's experiences in World War II and upon the war's end...he has mountains of researched tucked away in a self storage locker in Texas. I practically know all his war stories by heart, to the point that I wondered if I'd try to make that book a reality for him before he dies, or even after if necessary. I tried starting to do just that while he was still living here with me, asking questions, taking notes, and retyping both the start of his autobiography as well as his WWII memoirs...I think I may still try and do that.


oh gosh - I'm so sorry I missed this earlier Byron. (I'm going to have to keep a more careful eye on my threads in future!)

When I think of you and your father, I remember those lovely pics you posted when he came to visit one time. I remember them so clearly because of the obvious love you had for him. I hadn't realised he was suffering from dementia now - I'm so sorry.

He sounds like he's had a fascinating life; so much so that seeing your words above made me want to read his memoirs myself. Please, please, please take on the WWII project for him. Our family has lost a lot of my grandfather's stories, which were really interesting, and we so regret not having written them when he was alive. Also, his memories as a black soldier during WWII would be so interesting to a wider audience. Again, I'd love to read them. Where was he based?

Thankyou for writing these words Byron - I'm sorry I didn't see them when you first wrote them down.
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Reply #25 posted 08/31/05 1:57pm

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PREDOMINANT said:

Great thread topic.

I'd say the world is full of amazing people, with amazing stories and experiences, all of whom will be a great loss to us all. The crime is that we celebrate and try to emulate the lives of sad, money driven Hollywood wanabees instead of lifes real celebrities.

nod I couldn't agree more
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Reply #26 posted 08/31/05 1:58pm

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Natisse said:

there are many who will be missed and ARE missed still nod



pray

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Reply #27 posted 09/01/05 12:25am

billyjackbitch

Reincarnate said:

billyjackbitch said:

Kiren, as his daughter his traits and qualities will still exist, even after he has moved on. You are such a great person, and surely you see his qualities in yourself and so does the world. Now and in the future. Souns like your father is a very special and wise man. I think it is great that you speak so highly of your father. More people should. Reading what you wrote, I now see what caused you to be such a great woman!
hug Much love to ya girlfriend! Keep in touch.
MWUAH!

Do you know how much I love you girl? hug Thankyou.


I think I do and I love you too, girlfriend. hug
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