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Reply #30 posted 08/19/05 3:53pm

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how true though.....
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Reply #31 posted 08/22/05 6:49am

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SweetKreme said:


wave Hey TA - No problem -- I actually have thought about the same thing - I'm a Lesbian female but I'm very girlie- Unfortunately I have it alot better then the girls I tend to date - I'm a very submisive person and I like to be taken care of, so the girls I date have dominant personalities- which sometimes reflect the way they present themselves(the girls I like usually look like MC Lyte)- and a person that's into basketball may not like dresses and theres nothing wrong with that- but they are still women -- However, I get your point because although I like "tomboys" I'm not attracted to women that really have aggresive manly issues (I feel like I might as well date a guy) - But, I would never knock them because I know how it feels for something you like to not be accepted even though you can't help it(I'm gay) -- I feel some women just aren't comfortable being girlie they like guy things and they can't change it just because someone thinks it's wrong(nor does it men they are gay)- and vice versa a guy may know all day that he's a man but nothing he LIKES to do is considered "manly" -- so the question is: Is this his fault or society? - Unfortuately in our society everything must have a label and when I watch basketball I'm looked at in a weird way because of my feminity but who's to say sports are a guy thing?- you feel me?

I'm feeling you 100%, but it still goes back to the simple fact that the plumbing remains the same.

Here's the most clear and hopefully humorous example I can give.
When you have to use a "non-unisex" public restroom, which door do you enter?
Male or Female? (maybe that's what the Profile page should ask)

It you're part of the Gender: Not sure crowd (non joking variety), I would imagine you've got a major problem.
Ultimately, your bladder is going to force you to make a choice.

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Okay! - that was a very good example - I can definitely feel you on that-- I use the ladies room! LOL
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Reply #32 posted 08/22/05 6:59am

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The Gender is mandatory entry, so maybe Ben's thinking was to provide an entry for those who do not wish others to know their gender, although 'not disclosed' would seem more appropriate than 'not sure'.

When I joined first I put in 'not sure', simply because 'none of your damn business' wasn't on the list, although I changed it a short while later after it became obvious through some of my posts that I am male, and quite sure about it.
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Reply #33 posted 08/22/05 9:15am

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The Gender is mandatory entry


No, it isn't.
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Reply #34 posted 08/23/05 2:12am

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retina said:

AsylumUtopia said:

The Gender is mandatory entry


No, it isn't.

Oh.

You're right, there's a blank option which, if you select it, removes Gender from your public profile.

This fact puts a slight dent in an otherwise robust theory.
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Reply #35 posted 08/23/05 3:37am

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retina said:

theAudience said:

If you're part of the Gender: Not sure crowd (non joking variety), I would imagine you've got a major problem.


Agreed. But not because of the restroom situation. I'd say their problem is that they're taking this issue way too seriously. I mean come on, do we really have to define "man" and "woman" all over again? Then we might as well take it all the way back to Descartes and doubt the entire semantic system, never mind the whole world. rolleyes

Hermaphrodites aside, a man is a person with a penis and a woman is a person with a vagina. Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be.

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Too bad it's not so black and white as that.

I think part of the problem comes in that so many people think sex and gender are the same thing. Not true. Sex is what your body is and is determined by biology. Hermaphrodites aside, there are only two sexes, and nothing, not even sex-change surgery, can truly change that. Gender, on the other hand, is what occurs in your mind -and it may or may not match up fully or at all with what your body says you are. Gender does not work on a simple binary system.

My guess is the majority of those who put "Not sure" were joking or didn't want others to know, but there may well be a small number of people on the Org who can't or won't neatly define themselves.
[Edited 8/23/05 3:39am]
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