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Thread started 08/17/05 9:23pm

theAudience

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Serious Question

In many of the profiles under Gender, i've seen the answer "Not sure".
It seems like a simple enough question. Your sex based on plumbing.

confuse Is it just an overused joke or am I missing something here?


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Reply #1 posted 08/17/05 9:24pm

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I'm not really sure. confuse



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[Edited 8/17/05 21:24pm]
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #2 posted 08/17/05 9:25pm

Anxiety

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Reply #3 posted 08/17/05 9:29pm

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*plays..lou reed's "walk on the wild side"*

for no reason..
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Reply #4 posted 08/17/05 9:36pm

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Aaaaalrighty then. smile

I'm thinking I should have titled the thread "A Not So Serious Question".


confused


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Reply #5 posted 08/17/05 9:42pm

Anxiety

Anxiety said:



i actually have a copy of this in my backpack right now. it's a very cool book on identity, regardless of your orientation or gender or desired gender or whatnot. very funny book, too.
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Reply #6 posted 08/17/05 10:36pm

Ocean

falloff
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Reply #7 posted 08/17/05 11:12pm

Anxiety

Ocean said:

falloff


don't make fun of my trannie manual. no no no!

trannual? lol
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Reply #8 posted 08/18/05 9:01am

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Maybe it's because Prince is very androgenous(not sure I spelled that right - don't make fun razz ) - it's only gonna be common for his fans to be the same -- back on a serious tip though, alot of people really don't know, it's like they were born with the tools but not the equipment!
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Reply #9 posted 08/18/05 9:09am

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bkw said:

I'm not really sure. confuse



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[Edited 8/17/05 21:24pm]


I'm really not sure nod
You don't scare me; i got kids
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Reply #10 posted 08/18/05 9:10am

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Anxiety said:

Ocean said:

falloff
don't make fun of my trannie manual. no no no!

trannual? lol


lol
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Reply #11 posted 08/18/05 9:11am

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[Edited 8/18/05 10:50am]
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Reply #12 posted 08/18/05 9:12am

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gender
A grammatical category used in the classification of nouns, pronouns, adjectives, and, in some languages, verbs that may be arbitrary or based on characteristics such as sex or animacy and that determines agreement with or selection of modifiers, referents, or grammatical forms.

After reading this, I'm just not sure
You don't scare me; i got kids
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Reply #13 posted 08/18/05 9:14am

NatisseG

AlfofMelmak said:

gender
A grammatical category used in the classification of nouns, pronouns, adjectives, and, in some languages, verbs that may be arbitrary or based on characteristics such as sex or animacy and that determines agreement with or selection of modifiers, referents, or grammatical forms.

After reading this, I'm just not sure


lol Hi!!! hug
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Reply #14 posted 08/18/05 9:15am

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NatisseG said:

hi


Don't you dare get frisky!
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Reply #15 posted 08/18/05 9:16am

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Frisky;

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Reply #16 posted 08/18/05 9:16am

NatisseG

GooeyTheHamster said:

NatisseG said:

hi


Don't you dare get frisky!


oh lawd I'm in for it aren't I? disbelief be nice!! pray

whip

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Reply #17 posted 08/18/05 9:17am

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NatisseG said:

oh lawd I'm in for it aren't I? be nice!!


What's that? Nice?

~mad laughter in background~






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Reply #18 posted 08/18/05 9:20am

NatisseG

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NatisseG said:

oh lawd I'm in for it aren't I? be nice!!


What's that? Nice?

~mad laughter in background~






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Reply #19 posted 08/18/05 11:42am

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GooeyTheHamster said:

NatisseG said:

hi


Don't you dare get frisky!


Oi! Natisse may be as friskyish as she wants, especially with me batting eyes
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Reply #20 posted 08/18/05 11:43am

NatisseG

AlfofMelmak said:

GooeyTheHamster said:



Don't you dare get frisky!


Oi! Natisse may be as friskyish as she wants, especially with me batting eyes


giggle
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Reply #21 posted 08/18/05 1:03pm

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SweetKreme said:

Maybe it's because Prince is very androgenous(not sure I spelled that right - don't make fun razz ) - it's only gonna be common for his fans to be the same -- back on a serious tip though, alot of people really don't know, it's like they were born with the tools but not the equipment!

Thanks SweetKreme for taking my serious question seriously. hug

I get your point. But although Prince may have pushed an androgynous image in the past, at the end of the day the plumbing still says male.
Furthermore, I don't believe the person (Ben I guess) that set up that page was looking for a sociopolitical response. Simply a demographic one.

gen·der n - The condition of being female or male.

Innie = female
Outie = male

Simply curious. I'll stop now. cool


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Reply #22 posted 08/18/05 1:07pm

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theAudience said:

SweetKreme said:

Maybe it's because Prince is very androgenous(not sure I spelled that right - don't make fun razz ) - it's only gonna be common for his fans to be the same -- back on a serious tip though, alot of people really don't know, it's like they were born with the tools but not the equipment!

Thanks SweetKreme for taking my serious question seriously. hug

I get your point. But although Prince may have pushed an androgynous image in the past, at the end of the day the plumbing still says male.
Furthermore, I don't believe the person (Ben I guess) that set up that page was looking for a sociopolitical response. Simply a demographic one.

gen·der n - The condition of being female or male.

Innie = female
Outie = male

Simply curious. I'll stop now. cool


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Don't you think some people identify intrinsically or emotionally as a different gender, although society may label them via their genitals?

Maybe some folks don't wish to define "who" or what they are by such narrow definitions, because certain expectations go along with those definitions.

shrug
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Reply #23 posted 08/18/05 1:40pm

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AnotherLoverToo said:



Don't you think some people identify intrinsically or emotionally as a different gender, although society may label them via their genitals?

Maybe some folks don't wish to define "who" or what they are by such narrow definitions, because certain expectations go along with those definitions.

shrug

I'm sure some are taking this approach.
But again, i'm sure the question on the Profile page was not meant as a sociopolitical question. It didn't ask "How do you mentally define yourself?" smile

Also regardless of how one may identify intrinsically or emotionally as a different gender..., which is their right, that doesn't change the plumbing which technically defines gender.

Thanks for the serious response. wink


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Reply #24 posted 08/18/05 1:49pm

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I think the fact that there is the choice of *not sure* as a selection is just too tempting for some people to click it as a "joke". Not explaining myself real well, but that's how I took it when I saw it was people would select it trying to be funny...ya know?
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Reply #25 posted 08/18/05 2:05pm

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EskomoKisses said:

I think the fact that there is the choice of *not sure* as a selection is just too tempting for some people to click it as a "joke". Not explaining myself real well, but that's how I took it when I saw it was people would select it trying to be funny...ya know?

Right. I figured that would be one reason. nod


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Reply #26 posted 08/19/05 8:46am

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theAudience said:

SweetKreme said:

Maybe it's because Prince is very androgenous(not sure I spelled that right - don't make fun razz ) - it's only gonna be common for his fans to be the same -- back on a serious tip though, alot of people really don't know, it's like they were born with the tools but not the equipment!

Thanks SweetKreme for taking my serious question seriously. hug

I get your point. But although Prince may have pushed an androgynous image in the past, at the end of the day the plumbing still says male.
Furthermore, I don't believe the person (Ben I guess) that set up that page was looking for a sociopolitical response. Simply a demographic one.

gen·der n - The condition of being female or male.

Innie = female
Outie = male

Simply curious. I'll stop now. cool


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wave Hey TA - No problem -- I actually have thought about the same thing - I'm a Lesbian female but I'm very girlie- Unfortunately I have it alot better then the girls I tend to date - I'm a very submisive person and I like to be taken care of, so the girls I date have dominant personalities- which sometimes reflect the way they present themselves(the girls I like usually look like MC Lyte)- and a person that's into basketball may not like dresses and theres nothing wrong with that- but they are still women -- However, I get your point because although I like "tomboys" I'm not attracted to women that really have aggresive manly issues (I feel like I might as well date a guy) - But, I would never knock them because I know how it feels for something you like to not be accepted even though you can't help it(I'm gay) -- I feel some women just aren't comfortable being girlie they like guy things and they can't change it just because someone thinks it's wrong(nor does it men they are gay)- and vice versa a guy may know all day that he's a man but nothing he LIKES to do is considered "manly" -- so the question is: Is this his fault or society? - Unfortuately in our society everything must have a label and when I watch basketball I'm looked at in a weird way because of my feminity but who's to say sports are a guy thing?- you feel me?
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Reply #27 posted 08/19/05 12:57pm

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SweetKreme said:


wave Hey TA - No problem -- I actually have thought about the same thing - I'm a Lesbian female but I'm very girlie- Unfortunately I have it alot better then the girls I tend to date - I'm a very submisive person and I like to be taken care of, so the girls I date have dominant personalities- which sometimes reflect the way they present themselves(the girls I like usually look like MC Lyte)- and a person that's into basketball may not like dresses and theres nothing wrong with that- but they are still women -- However, I get your point because although I like "tomboys" I'm not attracted to women that really have aggresive manly issues (I feel like I might as well date a guy) - But, I would never knock them because I know how it feels for something you like to not be accepted even though you can't help it(I'm gay) -- I feel some women just aren't comfortable being girlie they like guy things and they can't change it just because someone thinks it's wrong(nor does it men they are gay)- and vice versa a guy may know all day that he's a man but nothing he LIKES to do is considered "manly" -- so the question is: Is this his fault or society? - Unfortuately in our society everything must have a label and when I watch basketball I'm looked at in a weird way because of my feminity but who's to say sports are a guy thing?- you feel me?

I'm feeling you 100%, but it still goes back to the simple fact that the plumbing remains the same.

Here's the most clear and hopefully humorous example I can give.
When you have to use a "non-unisex" public restroom, which door do you enter?
Male or Female? (maybe that's what the Profile page should ask)

It you're part of the Gender: Not sure crowd (non joking variety), I would imagine you've got a major problem.
Ultimately, your bladder is going to force you to make a choice.

cool

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Reply #28 posted 08/19/05 1:13pm

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theAudience said:

If you're part of the Gender: Not sure crowd (non joking variety), I would imagine you've got a major problem.


Agreed. But not because of the restroom situation. I'd say their problem is that they're taking this issue way too seriously. I mean come on, do we really have to define "man" and "woman" all over again? Then we might as well take it all the way back to Descartes and doubt the entire semantic system, never mind the whole world. rolleyes

Hermaphrodites aside, a man is a person with a penis and a woman is a person with a vagina. Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be.

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Reply #29 posted 08/19/05 3:49pm

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retina said:

theAudience said:

If you're part of the Gender: Not sure crowd (non joking variety), I would imagine you've got a major problem.


Agreed. But not because of the restroom situation. I'd say their problem is that they're taking this issue way too seriously. I mean come on, do we really have to define "man" and "woman" all over again? Then we might as well take it all the way back to Descartes and doubt the entire semantic system, never mind the whole world. rolleyes

Hermaphrodites aside, a man is a person with a penis and a woman is a person with a vagina. Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be.

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lol

Well. I was trying not to be that...hmmm...blunt, but there it is.


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