There's too much hostility towards overweight people. I see people on here mention its their friend or family member they are concerned about, but how many times to complete strangers take it upon themselves to insult someone about their weight. I have a hard time believing they are really concerned about that persons well being as much as they just don't want to look at someone who is bigger.

If someone is like 75-100lbs overweight, it's obviously gonna take months, if not years, to loose that. So why should they be treated like shit the whole time until they reach their goals? Treating people with respect and appreciating them for who they are at that point in time is not glorifying obesity. If there's something you can do along the way to help them feel good about themselves, why not?

There's a difference between motivating someone to lose weight, and just simply criticizing them.

CreamyThighs said:

Oh for fuck's sake, that's not what dreamfactory said. There wasn't one comment about how bigger people shouldn't feel good about themselves. Learn to read before you blow up.

Damn are you mad because you weren't in MoNique's tv show?

There's too much hostility towards overweight people. I see people on here mention its their friend or family member they are concerned about, but how many times to complete strangers take it upon themselves to insult someone about their weight. I have a hard time believing they are really concerned about that persons well being as much as they just don't want to look at someone who is bigger.

If someone is like 75-100lbs overweight, it's obviously gonna take months, if not years, to loose that. So why should they be treated like shit the whole time until they reach their goals? Treating people with respect and appreciating them for who they are at that point in time is not glorifying obesity. If there's something you can do along the way to help them feel good about themselves, why not?

There's a difference between motivating someone to lose weight, and just simply criticizing them.

It's a whole bunch of people that can kiss my big, fat ass.

Anyone here that's not overweight smoke? Do drugs? Have some other unhealthy habit? They you are not one to talk.

there are a lot of things out there that are more 'socially' acceptable than being overweight that are a HELL of a lot more dangerous to you... why is noone preaching about those topics ????

nakedpianoplayer said:

Well, start a thread about them and we'll talk. Why all the anger?

BTW, I don't smoke, drink or do drugs. The vices I have won't endanger my health.

uPtoWnNY said:

thats awesome that you have no health issues in your life ... really, it is, but there are a lot of folks that i know who are all concerned about their dress size and how 'healthy' they are, but dont hesitate when it comes to doing a line or two or five of coke

i never understood that.

and the anger ??? the anger is because im sick of people worrying about what size other people are ! i mean, really, life is hard enough, why do we have to talk shit about each other too ?

nakedpianoplayer said:

Again, its not about anyone else. Its about you.

applekisses said:

Are you overweight?

gemini13 said:

Are YOU?

now how does that make sense to say ???

havent you read this thread ?? its all about how OTHERS think they can approach a heavier person and tell them all about how THEIR lives are so unhealthy, how its not good for them, and how they will end up so sick !!!

if the 'thin' person can advise the 'fat' person and thats ok, why cant the person who's not doing drugs, smoking, drinking, robbing people, killing people, whatever, say something about what they are doing ????


ok, its a crazy example, but you get the point....

dreamfactory313 said:

now how does that make sense to say ???

havent you read this thread ?? its all about how OTHERS think they can approach a heavier person and tell them all about how THEIR lives are so unhealthy, how its not good for them, and how they will end up so sick !!!

if the 'thin' person can advise the 'fat' person and thats ok, why cant the person who's not doing drugs, smoking, drinking, robbing people, killing people, whatever, say something about what they are doing ????


ok, its a crazy example, but you get the point....

If I ate the same diet and did the same amount of physical activity of many of my skinnier friends, I would blow up like a balloon. The bottom line is I have to be much more careful about what I eat, and do additional exercise throughout the week to maintain my weight.

I get really pissed when I hear people make these broad sweeping generalizations of all overweight people, that they are lazy, unmotivated, and don't care about themselves. Many people simply have a hard time keeping their bodies at a healthy weight, in spite of their ongoing efforts.

Im amazed at how many people try to sugar coat their insults about other people's weight by citing health concerns. They can care less about someone's health and well being until they see someone put on some weight, then they want to play doctor.

We're all very much aware that diet and exercise help combat obesity. That fast food is bad. Etc. We hear about it 24 hours a day. Someone who is overweight is already aware of it, they look at themselves in the mirror each day - so there's no need to go up to them and say "hey, you're fat! you should go on a diet and exercise!".

My blood boils when I see people stand on a soapbox and make ignorant remarks towards overweight people, then pat themselves on the back as though they are curing obesity one person at a time with their tough-love comments. That's complete bullshit. All they are doing is rubbing salt in someone's wound, and more than anything, making the problem worse.

If you're really concerned about a family or friend who is overweight, chill out with the flippant remarks.

uPtoWnNY said:

thats awesome that you have no health issues in your life ... really, it is, but there are a lot of folks that i know who are all concerned about their dress size and how 'healthy' they are, but dont hesitate when it comes to doing a line or two or five of coke

i never understood that.

and the anger ??? the anger is because im sick of people worrying about what size other people are ! i mean, really, life is hard enough, why do we have to talk shit about each other too ?

nakedpianoplayer said:

It makes no sense...

You rob yourself of your own oppurtunities when you are always thinking about someone elses opinion. Most times, while u are all angry and bitter because of what they did or said about u, they are sleeping soundly and u end up paying the price. Keep yourself focused on what is important for u and your health and dismiss the people and ideas that igg you. Knowing your value and self worth will dictate the choices that u make. The deal is, only u know who u are.

Tom said:

This is the most comprehensive post on this thread so far.

You rob yourself of your own oppurtunities when you are always thinking about someone elses opinion. Most times, while u are all angry and bitter because of what they did or said about u, they are sleeping soundly and u end up paying the price. Keep yourself focused on what is important for u and your health and dismiss the people and ideas that igg you. Knowing your value and self worth will dictate the choices that u make. The deal is, only u know who u are.

nakedpianoplayer said:

Only listen to the folks who are into positive sh!t. Don't let the ignorant get you riled up. It just fuels them. I get crap for my tattoos - you think I care?Just say, "You have a nice day", and walk on. I'm just thankful I had TRUE friends who were concerned about my well-being.

As an ex-fat person, I'm still tempted every day. Sh!t, I work in midtown Manhattan. I'm surrounded by temptation - pizza joints, fast food, ice cream parlors and bakeries everywhere, so I know the deal. But I follow two rules - one day a week to splurge, and do things in moderation. It's tough, but health care is expensive. Since I'm 40+, and prostrate cancer runs in my family, I can't afford to let myself go. I wish some of my younger friends and cousins would do the same.
[Edited 8/8/05 19:06pm]

dreamfactory313 said:

ok, great point, but as this thread shows, its not about wondering what others are thinking... its about how people think they have the RIGHT to approach a person and discuss something so personal as their weight and then to do it in the name of HEALTH ???? the point is, it has nothing to do with that, its just the folks like the ones i used to go to school with that picked on anyone they could for any damn reason they could.... the point is, its NONE OF ANYONE ELSES BUSINESS ! if you dont like it, turn your head... but unless you want to discuss and go over every aspect of your life that could be looked at as 'unhealthy' or 'bad for you' then get off it.

btw, these statements are made in general.... not directed at any ONE person.

nakedpianoplayer said:

I G N O R E them! U know your worth, so who gives 2 shakes of a rat's ass what they say as long as youre doing what u should do to take care of yourself!!

nakedpianoplayer said:

I G N O R E them! U know your worth, so who gives 2 shakes of a rat's ass what they say as long as youre doing what u should do to take care of yourself!!

dreamfactory313 said:

you seem to have changed your outlook


werent you one of the ones that started this whole thing and talked about how unhealthy it is to be overweight ? how the BMI was all that told your future as far as health goes ?

im lost here...