purplekisses said:

I plan on watching the show to see 1st hand. I thought the premise of the show deserved a discussion. I saw her on a talk show talking about eating more fried chicken and I started thinking, wtf are you talking about? How is that going to improve the self esteem of anyone? I'll watch the show this weekend and we can all chime in about what we think of the show.

Mo'Nique was also bragging about having 2 stomachs and 2 double chins. I dont think thats anything to brag about. That is just dangerous and unflattering to say the least. What gives her the idea that obesity is something to be flaunted? Its terribly irresponsible in a country (USA) where over half of the population is overweight/obese. Its just wrong to me. We ought to be encouraging healthy lifestyle habits, not anorexia or obesity.

dreamfactory313 said:

U gotta be able to laugh at urself... and also she is expecting twins and right now all this talk bout her show is gonna boost the ratings and give her more money.. so how dumb is she

nakedpianoplayer said:

they are very attractive.

purplekisses said:

Agreed!
Just cause she's large doesn't mean everything she says should be her apologizing for the way she is and explaining what she's doing to change. You gotta have a sense of humour about yourself.

purplekisses said:

I never said she was dumb. I love her comedy as a matter of fact.
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dreamfactory313 said:

I'm almost on board with what you're getting at. While acknowledging that being obese is by no means a healthy life, it's important 2 also remember that overweight people deserve more than shame. It gives in2 the idea that unless U r thin (or actively working 2 b thin), your life is empty, out of control and doomed. While it's not possible 2 b obese and healthy, it IS possible 2 b obese and happy. I think the purpose of this pageant is not 2 promote obesity (cuz really, who wants 2 b overweight?), but more 2 promote acceptance, loving one's self (which is really what self-esteem is isn't it?) and show that "beautiful" comes in every size.

npgmaverick said:

thank you... thats what i was trying to say !!

awesome

TheFrog said:

it's a chair.

Dewrede said:

oh my god...they had the Parkers over there?

AnckSuNamun said:

Oh. Thats what Dewrede was talking about?

couldn't recall the name of the show

NO.

Misery loves company. When a bunch of miserable people get together they feel better so pass the Twinkies!

Shoot when I saw that I was like "About Damn Time!!"

Tired of seeing these skinny Americas Next Top Bitch shows...gimme summa dat in a bun big gals!!!

Though I'm gay, I appreciate something new and different...plus I love's me's sum's Monique.

I aint big, but hey, this is the real world and we all don't look like a celebrity.

Go On Girl

GeminiMoon said:

Yummy!

I use to watch her shows, I somethimes do. but good for her...what she's doing

paisleypark4 said:

well...honestly...I wanna see a huge chick as much as I wanna see one that looks like that broad in the pic that's been floating around on the org and other various places who's sunbathing on the beach, with joints protruding out. A nice "inbetween" is good. I like girls with meat on their bones....but c'mon...make SOME attempt to wave off the diabetes.

Nero said:

Nero said:

i don't even know what to think.
i mean i know we get sarcastic with people on the org
but 2 be straight up rude...
jesus.

XxAxX said:

Thank you. Mo'Nique should be ashamed of herself. Instead of lame excuses, she should be encouraging women to get healthy. No one's saying you have to an ugly-ass scarecrow like Paris, but you should be the right weight for your height & body type.


Working out and eating sensibly takes discipline, something Mo'Nique doesn't have. I don't particularly enjoy lifting weights, running on the treadmill and sweating my ass off - but it's either that, or buy my clothes from Big & Tall. There's no magic pill for this sh!t. Believe me, as a former fat person, I know.


Obese folks like Mo'Nique will pay for their bad habits sooner or later. I saw it during the recent NYC blackout when all of us who work in the Empire State Bldg. had to get out using the stairs. I saw so many obese people struggling and sweating their asses off trying to get out. If that's not a wake-up call to get yourself together, I don't know what is.
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dreamfactory313 said:

Monique is a trip to me... I've heard her on Apollo talking about working out & getting more toned, but that's she's not leaving the big girls behind she's just trying to be more healthy. She must feel a real alliance w/ the bigger women of the world - imagine what she's gone through in the entertainment industry being her size...

So I admire that she wants to remind big women that they're beautiful & boost their self esteem, I mean look @ her - she's a beautiful woman & very confident, I love her attitude about herself. At the same time it's dangerous to encourage obese folks to continue on the path they're on (recommending more fried chicken & shit like that, even if it's a joke ). Obesity is too much of an epidemic in this country right now to just say fuck it, you know?

Who knows - maybe it's all to promote the show. She's dropping twins & will continue to be big for at least another year (or 2 or 3... or 5) so she's got minimum 2 seasons of this show to hope for. If everybody loses weight, who'll be on her show?

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CalhounSq said:

tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm

I'm all for promoting healthy self-esteem and teaching peole to love themselves despite what society says is sexy and what's not, but I have a few problems with the fat-acceptance movement. First and foremost is the health issue that's already been brought up.

The other thing that bothers me is the rabid vilification of thin people and thinness that seems to go hand in hand with it. Just look at the tag on that picture: Skinny women are evil. What an immature, junior high thing to say. A more commonly heard, but just as bitchy, line is "Real women have curves".

All I can say is: bullshit.

I'm just as much a woman at my bony size 0/2 as my sister is at her curvy size 14. Perhaps behind such a bullshit line lies insecurity; a need to validate one's self and beliefs by putting down what is percieved as "the enemy"?

theAudience said:

Let me give everyone a hug. That'll make it alright.

meow85 said:

i can totally see what you are saying. theres a problem that women cant just be women, no matter what they look like i believe that we are all made to look differently... not one of us is the same shape, size, and color.... differences should be celebrated, not looked at as 'the enemy'. the problem comes up in issues like this i think because 'thinner' women have always been put in different light because that is looked at more as the 'norm' or more beautiful

now larger shaped women are stepping up saying, hey, we can do it too...

i still dont believe one is better than the other. but, the day a woman who has more curves can strut her stuff on the model runways is a welcome day for lots of women everywhere ! i dont think its the 'enemy' tone youre hearing in those messages, i think its the tone of well, finally we are up here doing our thing, we dont have to put on clothes to hide behind, we dont have to sit in the shadows, we dont have to pretend we are dieting and working so hard to become thin to be accepted.... we just are who we are and thats that

its a positive thing i think.... for everyone

meow85 said:

I can tell you that many people cover up their hatred of fat people by lingering on the "health" issue saying fat people shouldn't be content in their overweight-ness (is that a word?). They don't give a damn about the health of overweight people, they just don't like fat people, that's all.
and yeah, perhaps Monique's "skinny women are evil" line is a little immature, but she IS a comedienne after all, it's supposed to be funny. Sometimes you have to be radical in order to change things.
If people knew how to treat each other with respect regardless of their body size, then insecurity wouldn't even be an issue.