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Reply #30 posted 07/23/05 8:32pm

Fauxie

That's great. Now we're starting to hear from the gay orgers. thumbs up!
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Reply #31 posted 07/23/05 8:33pm

Imago777

Fauxie said:

That's great. Now we're starting to hear from the gay orgers. thumbs up!



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Reply #32 posted 07/23/05 8:36pm

Fauxie

Imago777 said:[quote]

Fauxie said:

That's great. Now we're starting to hear from the gay orgers. thumbs up!

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lol Tad harsh perhaps?

Still, I think I bugged Herman a little yesterday. biggrin

By the way, that Prince engrish thing is too funny. falloff
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Reply #33 posted 07/24/05 12:15am

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i totally think we are in the beginning or middle of what will later be widely seen as the "gaysploitation" period. it happens, all part of foreward motion. it's a lot less worrysome than the minstrel versions before this.
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Reply #34 posted 07/24/05 2:13am

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Fauxie said:

Still, I think I bugged Herman a little yesterday. biggrin


Like you are know.

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Reply #35 posted 07/24/05 5:58am

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There are some really good contributions to this thread. I see the point of them all.

On the one hand, the visibility we see is trendy, cartoonish, somewhat patronizing, forced and tired. In a nutshell -- overexposed. On the other hand, it's hardly comprehensive and, therefore, not thorough enough. I mean, if I believed the common currents, I'd think I was the only gay black dude on earth who 1) isn't on the "DL" rolleyes, 2) is HIV-, and 3) doesn't have some young white man on the side (FYI to my white LGBT bruhs and sisters: That's not to be taken as a jab. I'm making a political point).

As Imago suggested, we all perhaps need more representation, just free of all the marketable fakery and trappings of Hollywood or Washington D.C.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #36 posted 07/24/05 6:03am

Imago777

Lammastide said:

There are some really good contributions to this thread. I see the point of them all.

On the one hand, the visibility we see is trendy, cartoonish, somewhat patronizing, forced and tired. In a nutshell -- overexposed. On the other hand, it's hardly comprehensive and, therefore, not thorough enough. I mean, if I believed the common currents, I'd think I was the only gay black dude on earth who 1) isn't on the "DL" rolleyes, 2) is HIV-, and 3) doesn't have some young white man on the side (FYI to my white LGBT bruhs and sisters: That's not to be taken as a jab. I'm making a political point).

As Imago suggested, we all perhaps need more representation, just free of all the marketable fakery and trappings of Hollywood or Washington D.C.


Oh no you don't no no no!
We don't want this being turne into a political discussion.
Do you have any idea the slow an painful death this thread would face in the wasteland of the p&r forum? ill
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Reply #37 posted 07/24/05 6:04am

Lammastide

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I'll only add one thing:

Whatever happens, TED ALLEN STAYS!!!
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μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #38 posted 07/24/05 6:07am

Imago777

Lammastide said:

I'll only add one thing:

Whatever happens, TED ALLEN STAYS!!!

lol
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Reply #39 posted 07/24/05 6:10am

Lammastide

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Imago777 said:

Lammastide said:

There are some really good contributions to this thread. I see the point of them all.

On the one hand, the visibility we see is trendy, cartoonish, somewhat patronizing, forced and tired. In a nutshell -- overexposed. On the other hand, it's hardly comprehensive and, therefore, not thorough enough. I mean, if I believed the common currents, I'd think I was the only gay black dude on earth who 1) isn't on the "DL" rolleyes, 2) is HIV-, and 3) doesn't have some young white man on the side (FYI to my white LGBT bruhs and sisters: That's not to be taken as a jab. I'm making a political point).

As Imago suggested, we all perhaps need more representation, just free of all the marketable fakery and trappings of Hollywood or Washington D.C.


Oh no you don't no no no!
We don't want this being turne into a political discussion.
Do you have any idea the slow an painful death this thread would face in the wasteland of the p&r forum? ill

Oops! You're right. Lemme rescue this one...
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #40 posted 07/24/05 6:18am

Imago777

Lammastide said:

Imago777 said:



Oh no you don't no no no!
We don't want this being turne into a political discussion.
Do you have any idea the slow an painful death this thread would face in the wasteland of the p&r forum? ill

Oops! You're right. Lemme rescue this one...

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Reply #41 posted 07/24/05 6:40pm

Fauxie

Imago777 said:

Fauxie said:

That's great. Now we're starting to hear from the gay orgers. thumbs up!



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hmmm Can't remember what pic was here. Was it Althom in drag? confuse
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Reply #42 posted 07/24/05 7:00pm

tackam

Imago777 said:

Lammastide said:


Oops! You're right. Lemme rescue this one...



I love that episode, and I love Ted like a love a downtown whore on Fredricks discount days. . .
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Reply #43 posted 07/24/05 9:15pm

POOK

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lilgish said:

Fauxie said:


It all feels like a fad, although of course gay culture isn't a fad, it's life.

Here in lies the problem. For years, hip and wealthy straight people have looked to the gay community for its fashion and provocative lifestyle. Whatever the gay trend will soon become the popular trend. This exchange, while beneficial to both parties, is a rather superficial one. Take this relationship, add the exploitive mass media and what do you have?

Plain and simple. Gay flash sells. The gay orthodox, families, activists, accountants, lesbians without lipstick, drug free, gays who don’t party or can’t dance, don’t bring ratings or sell clothes. Not marketable, not seen.


THAT SOUND LIKE HOW WHITE KID LOVE JAPAN CARTOON AND FITTY CENT RECORD

BUT HAVE ALL WHITE FRIEND

THINK OF CARTOON RED STATER TOO

LIKE TOBY KEITH AND GRETCHEN WILSON

REMEMBER ANYONE ON TV OR MUSIC

THE DOPEY ONE GET MOST PRESS!

STRAIGHT OR GAY OR BLACK OR WHITE OR PEOPLE OR MONKEY

P o o |/,
P o o |\
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Reply #44 posted 07/24/05 9:18pm

Rhondab

POOK said:

lilgish said:


Here in lies the problem. For years, hip and wealthy straight people have looked to the gay community for its fashion and provocative lifestyle. Whatever the gay trend will soon become the popular trend. This exchange, while beneficial to both parties, is a rather superficial one. Take this relationship, add the exploitive mass media and what do you have?

Plain and simple. Gay flash sells. The gay orthodox, families, activists, accountants, lesbians without lipstick, drug free, gays who don’t party or can’t dance, don’t bring ratings or sell clothes. Not marketable, not seen.


THAT SOUND LIKE HOW WHITE KID LOVE JAPAN CARTOON AND FITTY CENT RECORD

BUT HAVE ALL WHITE FRIEND

THINK OF CARTOON RED STATER TOO

LIKE TOBY KEITH AND GRETCHEN WILSON

REMEMBER ANYONE ON TV OR MUSIC

THE DOPEY ONE GET MOST PRESS!

STRAIGHT OR GAY OR BLACK OR WHITE OR PEOPLE OR MONKEY




i love ya pook...but WTF! lol
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Reply #45 posted 07/24/05 9:30pm

POOK

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Rhondab said:

POOK said:



THAT SOUND LIKE HOW WHITE KID LOVE JAPAN CARTOON AND FITTY CENT RECORD

BUT HAVE ALL WHITE FRIEND

THINK OF CARTOON RED STATER TOO

LIKE TOBY KEITH AND GRETCHEN WILSON

REMEMBER ANYONE ON TV OR MUSIC

THE DOPEY ONE GET MOST PRESS!

STRAIGHT OR GAY OR BLACK OR WHITE OR PEOPLE OR MONKEY




i love ya pook...but WTF! lol


ALSO PEOPLE LIKE KUNG FU MOVIE

BUT HAVE NO NINJA FRIEND

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Reply #46 posted 07/26/05 5:29am

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Heterosexuals people are definitely overexposed on TV. nod
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Reply #47 posted 07/26/05 5:35am

Novabreaker

Well, there is an overexposure of gay makeover/reality/dating advice/whatnot -shows where the gayness is accommodated as an "exotic" spice to the approach. At the same time, the heterosexual participants in these shows often go for the most typical straight stereotypes. Wtf?

On the other hand, does anyone really ache to see a gay version of "Emmerdale"? Or "Lassie" for that matter?
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Reply #48 posted 07/26/05 9:51pm

POOK

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Novabreaker said:

Well, there is an overexposure of gay makeover/reality/dating advice/whatnot -shows where the gayness is accommodated as an "exotic" spice to the approach. At the same time, the heterosexual participants in these shows often go for the most typical straight stereotypes. Wtf?

On the other hand, does anyone really ache to see a gay version of "Emmerdale"? Or "Lassie" for that matter?


MAYBE BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE NOT SMART

AND ONLY WATCH IF TV GIVE WHAT THEY WANT

SO THAT WHAT THEY PUT ON SHOW

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Reply #49 posted 07/27/05 1:57pm

Imago777

scififilmnerd said:

Heterosexuals people are definitely overexposed on TV. nod

Agreed.


I want to expose myself to Fauxie.
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Reply #50 posted 07/27/05 2:29pm

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We've done these threads before, we as in the gay mafia razz

I'm not terribly troubled with how we are portrayed on TV. I see it as a springboard for real life. And Miguel is right, it's nowhere near as troubling as the minstrel version before us.

I was listening to a show on NPR and it was discussing a new movie called "Happy Endings". The director of the show was telling about how he adopted a child through this program that hooks up mothers wanting to give their children up to adoption to gay couples. He asked her why she considered taking that route and she said that she and her mom watch Will and Grace and see how funny and fun and loving the characters were and she said that she felt that kind of person deserves to be a parent.

I know some will label gaysploitation programs as propaganda, trying to convert the masses. Whatever shrug You gotta start somewhere and making us "less scary" as people to the Average American is a start nod
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Reply #51 posted 07/27/05 2:33pm

Imago777

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

We've done these threads before, we as in the gay mafia razz

I'm not terribly troubled with how we are portrayed on TV. I see it as a springboard for real life. And Miguel is right, it's nowhere near as troubling as the minstrel version before us.

I was listening to a show on NPR and it was discussing a new movie called "Happy Endings". The director of the show was telling about how he adopted a child through this program that hooks up mothers wanting to give their children up to adoption to gay couples. He asked her why she considered taking that route and she said that she and her mom watch Will and Grace and see how funny and fun and loving the characters were and she said that she felt that kind of person deserves to be a parent.

I know some will label gaysploitation programs as propaganda, trying to convert the masses. Whatever shrug You gotta start somewhere and making us "less scary" as people to the Average American is a start nod



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There is not a single gay man on the org that is nearly as disturbing or frightening to men, women, and children as Dook. nod
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