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Reply #30 posted 07/11/05 4:06pm

retina

mdiver said:

Banff,,,,, damn I love that place. Nice pics tx


Thanks.

We caught Banff on a particularly good day since there was a jazz festival going on. Some really young people played soulfully enough to be twice their age. Canoeing the next day wasn't dirt boring either, I tell you that. So people can whine as much as they like about Banff being too touristy, it definitely treated me well enough.
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Reply #31 posted 07/11/05 4:28pm

Mostbeautifulg
rlntheworld

As a photographer....I hate Sepia....I have pics and done pics in Sepia....but for me B&W does it everytime.


Yours are nice though.
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Reply #32 posted 07/11/05 4:35pm

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retina said:

Some photographs (definitely not all) seem to be beg to be sepia-coloured. I took these first two in Vancouver and the third one in Banff. What do you think?













If you have any sepia-coloured photographs (no matter if you're the photographer or not), please post them here. I'd be very curious to see them.
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hmm isn't sepia tint a characteristic of older photographs?

so just exactly how are you planning to accomplish this 'sepia tint'? are you going to travel back in time to 1865??
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Reply #33 posted 07/11/05 4:37pm

retina

Mostbeautifulgrlntheworld said:

As a photographer....I hate Sepia....I have pics and done pics in Sepia....but for me B&W does it everytime.


Yours are nice though.


Thanks...I guess. smile
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Reply #34 posted 07/11/05 4:39pm

retina

XxAxX said:


hmm isn't sepia tint a characteristic of older photographs?

so just exactly how are you planning to accomplish this 'sepia tint'? are you going to travel back in time to 1865??


neutral

No, it can easily be achieved with a filter or, in the case of digital photography, very basic software. And I'm not planning anything, I just did it. shrug
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Reply #35 posted 07/11/05 4:46pm

Mostbeautifulg
rlntheworld

retina said:

Mostbeautifulgrlntheworld said:

As a photographer....I hate Sepia....I have pics and done pics in Sepia....but for me B&W does it everytime.


Yours are nice though.


Thanks...I guess. smile



Yours are nice...Sepia is just not my preference...was not trying to be to critical...sorry. I am 100 times more critical of my artwork and photographs if that makes you feel any better. smile
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Reply #36 posted 07/11/05 4:50pm

retina

Mostbeautifulgrlntheworld said:

retina said:



Thanks...I guess. smile



Yours are nice...Sepia is just not my preference...was not trying to be to critical...sorry. I am 100 times more critical of my artwork and photographs if that makes you feel any better. smile


Don't worry, I didn't feel bad. But hate is a strong word...

I personally always just look at what serves the particular picture in question best. If it needs to be black and white, then so be it. If colour gives it more impact, I'll go with that etc, etc. It's not often that I feel sepia is the appropriate colour, but I did when it came to these. I can't describe why, it was just an instinct.
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Reply #37 posted 07/11/05 4:57pm

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retina said:

XxAxX said:


hmm isn't sepia tint a characteristic of older photographs?

so just exactly how are you planning to accomplish this 'sepia tint'? are you going to travel back in time to 1865??


neutral

No, it can easily be achieved with a filter or, in the case of digital photography, very basic software. And I'm not planning anything, I just did it. shrug


well, i'm no expert on photography but wouldn't time travel be easier? hmm







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Reply #38 posted 07/11/05 5:00pm

Lleena

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Nice pictures, I'm not a photographer but I submitted some for Byron's project. I experimented with colour, if you're a purist when it comes to photos you wont like them. re: your photoshop comment. lol. I think Photoshop and your imagination can take a picture to places you didn't expect it to go...and I like that.

nice work.
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Reply #39 posted 07/11/05 5:07pm

retina

Lleena said:

Nice pictures, I'm not a photographer but I submitted some for Byron's project. I experimented with colour, if you're a purist when it comes to photos you wont like them. re: your photoshop comment. lol. I think Photoshop and your imagination can take a picture to places you didn't expect it to go...and I like that.

nice work.


Thanks. But I see we have different opinions...as usual. smile

I'll give you this though: I can appreciate photoshopped images if they're really photoshopped. I'm not talking an added element, or one applied visual effect, I'm talking a complete rearranging and reinventing of the original picture(s). Then it becomes an artwork in its own right. It's not trying to be anything else. It's basically when the picture is supposed to look natural, but is manipulated here and there to be the same picture only "better" that I really don't like it.

I'm curious to see what category your pics will fit in. smile
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Reply #40 posted 07/11/05 5:11pm

Mostbeautifulg
rlntheworld

retina said:

Mostbeautifulgrlntheworld said:




Yours are nice...Sepia is just not my preference...was not trying to be to critical...sorry. I am 100 times more critical of my artwork and photographs if that makes you feel any better. smile


Don't worry, I didn't feel bad. But hate is a strong word...

I personally always just look at what serves the particular picture in question best. If it needs to be black and white, then so be it. If colour gives it more impact, I'll go with that etc, etc. It's not often that I feel sepia is the appropriate colour, but I did when it came to these. I can't describe why, it was just an instinct.



And you should always go with your instinct...mine just tells me black and white... biggrin
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Reply #41 posted 07/11/05 5:12pm

Lleena

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retina said:

Lleena said:

Nice pictures, I'm not a photographer but I submitted some for Byron's project. I experimented with colour, if you're a purist when it comes to photos you wont like them. re: your photoshop comment. lol. I think Photoshop and your imagination can take a picture to places you didn't expect it to go...and I like that.

nice work.


Thanks. But I see we have different opinions...as usual. smile

I'll give you this though: I can appreciate photoshopped images if they're really photoshopped. I'm not talking an added element, or one applied visual effect, I'm talking a complete rearranging and reinventing of the original picture(s). Then it becomes an artwork in its own right. It's not trying to be anything else. It's basically when the picture is supposed to look natural, but is manipulated here and there to be the same picture only "better" that I really don't like it.

I'm curious to see what category your pics will fit in. smile



There's no harsher critic of my work than me. It was a fun thing to do and not too be taken too seriously smile
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Reply #42 posted 07/11/05 5:15pm

retina

Lleena said:

retina said:



Thanks. But I see we have different opinions...as usual. smile

I'll give you this though: I can appreciate photoshopped images if they're really photoshopped. I'm not talking an added element, or one applied visual effect, I'm talking a complete rearranging and reinventing of the original picture(s). Then it becomes an artwork in its own right. It's not trying to be anything else. It's basically when the picture is supposed to look natural, but is manipulated here and there to be the same picture only "better" that I really don't like it.

I'm curious to see what category your pics will fit in. smile



There's no harsher critic of my work than me. It was a fun thing to do and not too be taken too seriously smile


Do you take photographs often? Or does "my work" refer to something else? Can I see something you've done?
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Reply #43 posted 07/11/05 5:35pm

Lleena

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retina said:

Lleena said:




There's no harsher critic of my work than me. It was a fun thing to do and not too be taken too seriously smile


Do you take photographs often? Or does "my work" refer to something else? Can I see something you've done?



I dont take photos very often, I do mostly graphic design. I had the letter Z, here is one of the pictures.

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Reply #44 posted 07/11/05 5:39pm

retina

Lleena said:

retina said:



Do you take photographs often? Or does "my work" refer to something else? Can I see something you've done?



I dont take photos very often, I do mostly graphic design. I had the letter Z, here is one of the pictures.



I definitely like the concept (if it had been a physical object in an art gallery I would have loved it, honestly), but as a photograph it clearly falls in the "cheat/fake" category. smile
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Reply #45 posted 07/11/05 5:52pm

Nikki23

retina said:










Love this one.
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Reply #46 posted 07/11/05 5:57pm

retina

Nikki23 said:

retina said:










Love this one.


Thanks! It was a weird day. A thick fog was resting like a snake on the water in English Bay, Vancouver, but nowhere else in the city - except that the head of the snake rested on the campus area of University of British Columbia. That's where I took this picture. It was completely quiet and people drifted in and out of the fog like ghosts.
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Reply #47 posted 07/11/05 7:22pm

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retina said:

brownsugar said:

retina these are beautiful. how do you get it like that? is that a kind of paper or what?


They're actually digital pictures that are a part of a little experiment of mine. I'm usually an extreme puritan when it comes to photos and don't want to manipulate them at all. It takes away the authenticity. But this time I allowed myself only the liberties that are available to regular photography, i.e. toning, cropping, sharpening of contrast. Sepia is one of those tools (I believe it is a filter), so I don't feel like I've crossed over into the world of Photoshop and such tools for cheating and making things artificial.

Thanks for the compliment by the way! It feels great since I know how very good you are yourself at photography.


Several big companies that manufacture B&W papers, chemistry, and other supplies have gone belly up the past couple years. I think Illford is through, as is JOBO, and Kodak (if I remember right) no longer makes B&W paper. Digital might be our only option for toning in a few more years.

I used to use the illford cool tone paper, then put it through a really strong selenium toner bath. The black areas would take on a deep burgundy cast that was incredible.

Very nice photographs, especially the last one. Where were you standing when you shot that? What filters did you use to tint them, photoshops built in ones or a third party plugin like digital filmtools?
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Reply #48 posted 07/11/05 7:40pm

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retina said:




Great shots. I like the above best.

Here's an interesting one I found online...




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Reply #49 posted 07/11/05 11:56pm

MartyMcFly

Nero said:

AsianBomb777 said:

Beautiful.

Your pictures make me so erect.


What doesn't make you erect that has to do with a man?




lol
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Reply #50 posted 07/12/05 2:33am

MarieLouise

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Wow Retina, those are nice pics. Especially the third one. I like sepia, but it makes me nostalgic for something I've never known. Let's go back to the roaring twenties !
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Reply #51 posted 07/12/05 2:37am

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A little too dark but I like it anyway.


























Here's the original:


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The Borg... Partypoopers of the galaxy.. ( Medical Hologram )
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..Where is my lovelife.. where can it be?? There must be something wrong with the machinery..
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Reply #52 posted 07/12/05 2:50am

Lleena

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retina said:



I definitely like the concept (if it had been a physical object in an art gallery I would have loved it, honestly), but as a photograph it clearly falls in the "cheat/fake" category. smile[/quote]


That is something we agree on, of course it's not intended to fool anyone into thinking it's a real keyboard, it's just an idea about the letter Z. Without Photoshop I couldn't have done it, and it would have remained just a thought in my mind, this is why I love Photoshop.

btw, I do like Sepia tints and I think they are effective at giving the picture an impression of aging, like an old photograph that has discoloured over time.

...
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Reply #53 posted 07/12/05 2:55am

Lleena

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Lleena said:

retina said:



I definitely like the concept (if it had been a physical object in an art gallery I would have loved it, honestly), but as a photograph it clearly falls in the "cheat/fake" category. smile



oops double post smile
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Reply #54 posted 07/12/05 6:05am

Mach

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Mach said:



what i enjoy the most about the 3rd shot

it can be taken as a raging river

or

an upward glance at a stormy sky


I was thinking stormy sky as well, something you see in a huge Montana Big Sky theme.


mushy Montana
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Reply #55 posted 07/12/05 8:00am

retina

Tom said:

retina said:



They're actually digital pictures that are a part of a little experiment of mine. I'm usually an extreme puritan when it comes to photos and don't want to manipulate them at all. It takes away the authenticity. But this time I allowed myself only the liberties that are available to regular photography, i.e. toning, cropping, sharpening of contrast. Sepia is one of those tools (I believe it is a filter), so I don't feel like I've crossed over into the world of Photoshop and such tools for cheating and making things artificial.

Thanks for the compliment by the way! It feels great since I know how very good you are yourself at photography.


Several big companies that manufacture B&W papers, chemistry, and other supplies have gone belly up the past couple years. I think Illford is through, as is JOBO, and Kodak (if I remember right) no longer makes B&W paper. Digital might be our only option for toning in a few more years.

I used to use the illford cool tone paper, then put it through a really strong selenium toner bath. The black areas would take on a deep burgundy cast that was incredible.

Very nice photographs, especially the last one. Where were you standing when you shot that? What filters did you use to tint them, photoshops built in ones or a third party plugin like digital filmtools?


eek Is Illford gone? That's the one company that defines photography technology to me. disbelief

I'm glad you liked the pictures. I was up on a cliff about seven or eight metres above the river when I took the third one. As I mentioned in a previous post, I had been canoeing further up on that river without having a clue that it would turn into more or less a whitewater waterfall. Ít was actually my intention right from the start to make that picture sepia-tinted since it would increase the Japanese feel of it. Imagine blood red calligraphy on the right side of it...I think it would look pretty cool. Could be a book or CD cover or something. Speaking of that, I've always hoped that an author or artist will want to use one of my pictures to represent their work that way. It would be a great honour.

Regarding the software I just used ACDSee for Pentax, which was the software that came with the camera. I really don't need anything beyond that since I only crop and tint anyway.
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Reply #56 posted 07/12/05 8:05am

retina

theAudience said:



(pic was here)

Great shots. I like the above best.

Here's an interesting one I found online...

(pic was here)



Thank you! I think that one is my favourite too actually (the one with the ship).

I have no idea what the picture you found portrays but it looks interesting. And I noticed the Frisk boxes next to the bug. "Frisk" means "healthy" in Swedish, but I don't think it's a Swedish brand. Coincidence? Or is that why they chose that name?
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Reply #57 posted 07/12/05 8:06am

retina

MarieLouise said:

Wow Retina, those are nice pics. Especially the third one. I like sepia, but it makes me nostalgic for something I've never known. Let's go back to the roaring twenties !


Thanks MarieLouise! hug I appreciate it.
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Reply #58 posted 07/12/05 8:10am

Muse2NOPharaoh

You really have an eye and are unbelievably talented.
The second shot draws me into it. The final shot is just unreal I really get a sense of actual movement. I have not been to a photo exibition before but I would to see this sort of work.
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Reply #59 posted 07/12/05 8:31am

retina

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

You really have an eye and are unbelievably talented.
The second shot draws me into it. The final shot is just unreal I really get a sense of actual movement. I have not been to a photo exibition before but I would to see this sort of work.


touched touched touched

That was one of the most fantastic responses I've ever gotten and more than I could have hoped for. Thank you very, very much. It really means a whole lot.

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