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PrintableI think this is a thinly veiled disagreement, not about films/earning power/box office draw/final editing/the international mkt vs. the US film industry, etc., but about race and racism. 
Or else y'all just need to whip 'em out and see whose really IS bigger?  [Edited 7/11/05 21:32pm] | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: Or else y'all just need to whip 'em out and see whose really IS bigger?
you just want a peak  | |
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lilgish said: AnotherLoverToo said: Or else y'all just need to whip 'em out and see whose really IS bigger?
you just want a peak 
Only if they beat their chests while their pants are down. | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: lilgish said: you just want a peak
Only if they beat their chests while their pants are down. If I whip mine out, the sky will go dark.    "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: I think this is a thinly veiled disagreement, not about films/earning power/box office draw/final editing/the international mkt vs. the US film industry, etc., but about race and racism.
Or else y'all just need to whip 'em out and see whose really IS bigger? :hmm2: [Edited 7/11/05 21:32pm] Since I am the Org Dickologist, I wouldn't mind being on the Judge . | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: AnotherLoverToo said:
Only if they beat their chests while their pants are down. If I whip mine out, the sky will go dark. Q Daddy, I'm Ready For You! The question is are you ready for me? | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: AnotherLoverToo said:
Only if they beat their chests while their pants are down. If I whip mine out, the sky will go dark. Like in War of the Worlds?? | |
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MsLegs said: TheCrucialExperience said: If I whip mine out, the sky will go dark. Q Daddy, I'm Ready For You! The question is are you ready for me? So, what is the answer 2 the question of U? "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: TheCrucialExperience said: If I whip mine out, the sky will go dark. Like in War of the Worlds?? Almost. More like "Shaft" "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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FUCK Chris, Jackie & those dumb ass movies    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: MsLegs said: Q Daddy, I'm Ready For You! The question is are you ready for me? So, what is the answer 2 the question of U? U Tell me! | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: Sinister said: No offense but if you "know so much about the biz" you would know how much of a draw Jackie is worldwide and how popular he has been for umm lets see decades or so...So Jackie has every right to call Chris out cause in comparison he has done nothing compared to Jackie...Movie success does not begin and end in America...Global success should not be taken for granted or dismissed cause Jackie is not a top american draw. I hate to break this to you but the fact remains "You ain't made it til you made it in the states." Now, you overseas people may hate that but you know it's true or else why else would Jackie even come to the U.S.? TO MAKE MONEY IN FILMS BECAUSE THIS IS THE FILM CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. China isn't. Jackie can do all he wants in China as a filmmaker/actor, but the GENERAL American audience doesn't give a damn, ALL they care about is American films and thus far, Jackie NEEDS another sidekick to have a successful film in the U.S. Hard facts from a hard world. So "You aint made it til you made it in the states" huh....Nice logic...so any and all achievements made anywhere outside the US is shit cause we ain't feelin it here...(I am from the US BTW) So all you foreign actors, musicians, artist or any foreigners in your eyes are small time and not worth a food stamp unless you make in the US....No you did not say anything about music or art but if that is your thinking then why not music and art too? Fact is the US is the major movie market yes I never disputed this...But to belittle a mans accomplishments because he is not big in the US and is big around the world (not just China THE WORLD) is ridiculous and narrow minded... He has done more than Chris Tucker whether it is US or not he has put in work for decades...The man was the next Bruce Lee...He has made money around the world you don't need the US to be a major movie star...it helps but it is not neccessary...Why belittle what Jackie has accomplished just cause he didn't blow up in the US by himself? clever clever quotation - attention getting quote - sad yet witty remark - look at me! Im deep quote- song lyric about my ex cause that bitch stole my mp3 player! - line from movie I liked - Prince lyric - not very clever sig mocking other sigs | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: XxAxX said: well, who's right who's wrong? whatever the situation thing is i think tucker should have already ironed out the details of this particular deal so his 'negotiations' don't coincide with the actual release date of the picture. hasn't he already signed a contract for his work on the movie? he'd had to have done that going in, right? that's when this should have been done.
i'm biased i admit i'm a rabid jackie chan fan. he's one of the few celebrities in the world i'd actually like to meet in person. tucker has his strong points and he's a lot of fun, but imo the stunts jackie does in all his films more than give him first billing. i hope these contract negotiations with tucker don't ruin his ability to work with chan. Here' the kicker though: Even though Tucker carries the film, it's easier to replace him than it is Jackie because Jackie is the only comical martial artist around, at least known in the states. I mean, we can't imagine Jet Li taking over the role pardon me for saying so but tucker couldn't carry a movie if it were handed to him in a paper bag 
no one goes to these films to see chris tucker. tucker's a sidekick for crying out loud. jackie chan is the star. always was always will be. | |
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should't this thread get an award of some kind? like surprise blockbuster thread of the year? | |
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CalhounSq said: FUCK Chris, Jackie & those dumb ass movies
You're such a fuckin' lady!!
hell to the naw!!! | |
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Sorry, y'all. I really tried that time. | |
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OdysseyMiles said:
Sorry, y'all. I really tried that time.  | |
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Hotlegs said: TheCrucialExperience said: So, what is the answer 2 the question of U? U Tell me! What do I look 4? What shall I do? "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: Hotlegs said: U Tell me! What do I look 4? What shall I do? You're a Q and I shouldn't have to tell you. | |
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Sinister said: TheCrucialExperience said: I hate to break this to you but the fact remains "You ain't made it til you made it in the states." Now, you overseas people may hate that but you know it's true or else why else would Jackie even come to the U.S.? TO MAKE MONEY IN FILMS BECAUSE THIS IS THE FILM CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. China isn't. Jackie can do all he wants in China as a filmmaker/actor, but the GENERAL American audience doesn't give a damn, ALL they care about is American films and thus far, Jackie NEEDS another sidekick to have a successful film in the U.S. Hard facts from a hard world. So "You aint made it til you made it in the states" huh....Nice logic...so any and all achievements made anywhere outside the US is shit cause we ain't feelin it here...(I am from the US BTW) So all you foreign actors, musicians, artist or any foreigners in your eyes are small time and not worth a food stamp unless you make in the US....No you did not say anything about music or art but if that is your thinking then why not music and art too? Fact is the US is the major movie market yes I never disputed this...But to belittle a mans accomplishments because he is not big in the US and is big around the world (not just China THE WORLD) is ridiculous and narrow minded... He has done more than Chris Tucker whether it is US or not he has put in work for decades...The man was the next Bruce Lee...He has made money around the world you don't need the US to be a major movie star...it helps but it is not neccessary...Why belittle what Jackie has accomplished just cause he didn't blow up in the US by himself? Stick to the topic, Weezy. We're talking movies. Stop trying to add in stuff that isn't being discussed here. Now, if you feel that Hollywood ISN'T where most of the actors around the world aren't trying to reach, then you shouldn't be in this discussion because you're operating at a disadvantage mentally. No offense, right?
Most people in America don't care about Jackie Chan's Chinese films. How hard is that for you to understand? Did I say his films were trash? Nope. Stop putting words in my mouth. Where did I belittle him as a filmmaker? Show me? Stop taking this so personal, unless Jackie Chan is paying you to defend him. "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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XxAxX said: TheCrucialExperience said: Here' the kicker though: Even though Tucker carries the film, it's easier to replace him than it is Jackie because Jackie is the only comical martial artist around, at least known in the states. I mean, we can't imagine Jet Li taking over the role pardon me for saying so but tucker couldn't carry a movie if it were handed to him in a paper bag
no one goes to these films to see chris tucker. tucker's a sidekick for crying out loud. jackie chan is the star. always was always will be. Tucker carried the little known film Friday and made it a cult classic. The sequels to Friday never lived up to the original, mainly because Tucker wasn't in them. Tucker carried the Rush Hour films, like him/it or not. If he didn't then he wouldn't be able to command 5 million more than Jackie for the exact same film. ...So how can he be Jackie's sidekick when he's making more than Jackie? Jackie is a star in both China and the States. But Jackie can't carry a film in the States, he NEEDS a sidekick. Fact."But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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Hotlegs said: TheCrucialExperience said: What do I look 4? What shall I do? You're a Q and I shouldn't have to tell you. So U want my doggie style huh? "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: XxAxX said: pardon me for saying so but tucker couldn't carry a movie if it were handed to him in a paper bag
no one goes to these films to see chris tucker. tucker's a sidekick for crying out loud. jackie chan is the star. always was always will be. Tucker carried the little known film Friday and made it a cult classic. The sequels to Friday never lived up to the original, mainly because Tucker wasn't in them. Tucker carried the Rush Hour films, like him/it or not. If he didn't then he wouldn't be able to command 5 million more than Jackie for the exact same film. ...So how can he be Jackie's sidekick when he's making more than Jackie? Jackie is a star in both China and the States. But Jackie can't carry a film in the States, he NEEDS a sidekick. Fact.well, when i watch them together i'm thinking 'shut up and get out of chan's way, tucker' | |
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XxAxX said: TheCrucialExperience said: Tucker carried the little known film Friday and made it a cult classic. The sequels to Friday never lived up to the original, mainly because Tucker wasn't in them. Tucker carried the Rush Hour films, like him/it or not. If he didn't then he wouldn't be able to command 5 million more than Jackie for the exact same film. ...So how can he be Jackie's sidekick when he's making more than Jackie? Jackie is a star in both China and the States. But Jackie can't carry a film in the States, he NEEDS a sidekick. Fact.well, when i watch them together i'm thinking 'shut up and get out of chan's way, tucker' "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: Hotlegs said: You're a Q and I shouldn't have to tell you. So U want my doggie style huh? | |
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hmmm. well then let's compare their resumes as actors, shall we?
JACKIE CHAN 1962 Big and Little Wong Tin-Bar 1963 The Love Eternal 1964 The Story of Qui Xiang Lin 1966 Come Drink with Me 1968 A Touch of Zen 1971 The Little Tiger of Canton 1971 The Heroine chris tucker is born - 1972 1972 Fist of Fury 1972 Police Woman 1972 Hapkido 1973 Not Scared to Die 1973 Enter the Dragon 1974 Golden Lotus 1975 The Himalayan 1975 All in the Family 1976 Hand of Death 1976 New Fist of Fury 1976 Shaolin Wooden Men 1976 Killer Meteors 1978 Snake and Crane Arts of Shaolin 1978 Half a Loaf of Kung Fu 1978 Magnificent Bodyguards 1978 Spiritual Kung Fu 1978 Dragon Fist 1978 Snake in the Eagle's Shadow 1978 Drunken Master (aka Drunk Monkey in the Tiger's Eye) 1979 Fearless Hyena 1980 The Young Master 1980 The Big Brawl (aka Battle Creek Brawl) 1981 Cannonball Run 1982 Dragon Lord 1982 Fantasy Mission Force 1983 Winners and Sinners 1983 Cannonball Run Part II 1983 Project A 1984 Wheels On Meals 1985 My Lucky Stars 1985 The Protector 1985 Twinkle Twinkle Lucky Stars 1985 Heart of Dragon 1985 Police Story 1986 Armour of God 1987 Project A Part II 1988 Dragons Forever 1988 Police Story Part II 1989 Miracles (aka Mr Canton and Lady Rose) 1991 Operation Condor 1991 Island of Fire 1992 Twin Dragons 1992 Police Story Part III 1993 City Hunter 1993 Crime Story 1993 Project S 1994 Drunken Master 2 1995 Rumble in the Bronx 1995 Thunderbolt 1996 First Strike (aka Police Story Part IV) 1997 Mr Nice Guy 1998 Who Am I? 1998 Rush Hour 1999 Gorgeous 2000 Shanghai Noon 2001 The Accidental Spy 2001 Rush Hour 2 2002 The Tuxedo 2003 Shanghai Knights 2003 The Medallion 2004 Around the World in 80 Days CHRIS TUCKER Rush Hour 2 (26-Jul-2001) Rush Hour (18-Sep-1998) Jackie Brown (25-Dec-1997) Money Talks (22-Aug-1997) The Fifth Element (9-May-1997) Dead Presidents (29-Sep-1995) Friday (26-Apr-1995) House Party 3 (12-Jan-1994) | |
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XxAxX said: hmmm. well then let's compare their resumes as actors, shall we?
JACKIE CHAN 1962 Big and Little Wong Tin-Bar 1963 The Love Eternal 1964 The Story of Qui Xiang Lin 1966 Come Drink with Me 1968 A Touch of Zen 1971 The Little Tiger of Canton 1971 The Heroine chris tucker is born - 1972 1972 Fist of Fury 1972 Police Woman 1972 Hapkido 1973 Not Scared to Die 1973 Enter the Dragon 1974 Golden Lotus 1975 The Himalayan 1975 All in the Family 1976 Hand of Death 1976 New Fist of Fury 1976 Shaolin Wooden Men 1976 Killer Meteors 1978 Snake and Crane Arts of Shaolin 1978 Half a Loaf of Kung Fu 1978 Magnificent Bodyguards 1978 Spiritual Kung Fu 1978 Dragon Fist 1978 Snake in the Eagle's Shadow 1978 Drunken Master (aka Drunk Monkey in the Tiger's Eye) 1979 Fearless Hyena 1980 The Young Master 1980 The Big Brawl (aka Battle Creek Brawl) 1981 Cannonball Run 1982 Dragon Lord 1982 Fantasy Mission Force 1983 Winners and Sinners 1983 Cannonball Run Part II 1983 Project A 1984 Wheels On Meals 1985 My Lucky Stars 1985 The Protector 1985 Twinkle Twinkle Lucky Stars 1985 Heart of Dragon 1985 Police Story 1986 Armour of God 1987 Project A Part II 1988 Dragons Forever 1988 Police Story Part II 1989 Miracles (aka Mr Canton and Lady Rose) 1991 Operation Condor 1991 Island of Fire 1992 Twin Dragons 1992 Police Story Part III 1993 City Hunter 1993 Crime Story 1993 Project S 1994 Drunken Master 2 1995 Rumble in the Bronx 1995 Thunderbolt 1996 First Strike (aka Police Story Part IV) 1997 Mr Nice Guy 1998 Who Am I? 1998 Rush Hour 1999 Gorgeous 2000 Shanghai Noon 2001 The Accidental Spy 2001 Rush Hour 2 2002 The Tuxedo 2003 Shanghai Knights 2003 The Medallion 2004 Around the World in 80 Days CHRIS TUCKER Rush Hour 2 (26-Jul-2001) Rush Hour (18-Sep-1998) Jackie Brown (25-Dec-1997) Money Talks (22-Aug-1997) The Fifth Element (9-May-1997) Dead Presidents (29-Sep-1995) Friday (26-Apr-1995) House Party 3 (12-Jan-1994) Yeah Chan has done a lot of films. Hmm? I wonder if him being 18 years OLDER than Tucker has anything to do with it? "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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And I'm sure Chan's 1978 "Half a Loaf of Kung Fu" was real "ARTSY" "But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois -- | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: And I'm sure Chan's 1978 "Half a Loaf of Kung Fu" was real "ARTSY"
i'm telling jackie you said that. he'll kick your butt AND tucker's  | |
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TheCrucialExperience said: Yeah Chan has done a lot of films. Hmm? I wonder if him being 18 years OLDER than Tucker has anything to do with it? Irrelevant...completely. Why? Because again (for the memory-impared) here's what Chan said about Tucker: "He's still a new actor," Chan, 51, said. "How many movies has he made?" Emphasis on "still a new actor". Basically, you're agreeing with Chan...
And Tucker has only been the focus of maybe four films...in the others, his participation has been minimal...not the one in which the movie's success depended upon his performance or presence. I think both you AND Chris Tucker have a LOT to learn about Hollywood...lol | |
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