I got the DVD in the mail today, debating on whether I want to watch it or not tonight...

you, of all people, will deeply enjoy "sideways".

in fact, i think it may be loosely based on you.

Yes. You'll like it.

Anxiety said:

oh DOOK, i know you like it when i say "loosely".

Anxiety said:

Fine! You're right!!!!!

Okay, I'm going to watch it. I think I'll also get drunk off of Merlot (even though that's not the drink of choice in the movie - isn't it Pinot Noir?)

ReturnOfDOOK said:

it's actually paint thinner with a twist of clamato. drink up!

You will like it....It is entertaining!

i hate ugly white people movies

(rushmore, lost in translation, pt anderson films)...


but i actually enjoyed this one....

and when i say ugly white people i dont mean i hate ugly white people...i just cant relate to ugly white people's stories.....there's no commonality there for me....and thats just a cute lil name i have for them.....

and there exceptions to this rule of mine...this film being a perfect example..i was pleasantly suprised at how funny and interesting this movie was....

I have no comment on the movie ( I haven't seen it yet ) but I have a crush on Sandra Oh ( and it's not because she's Korean ).






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sosgemini said:

those are called independent films which often are meant reflect regular people's lives outside of the hollywood dominated star system. But I suppose you have more in common with the likes of Nicole Kidman, Tom Cruise, Angela Jolie and Brad Pitt? i guess you favor "beautiful white people movies".

heartbeatocean said:

oohh...thats funny...

NO..no i am not talking about independent film...im talking about a subgenre of independent film...

for the record, some of my fav films?

Eve's Bayou
Talk To Her
Hotel Rhowanda
Mulholand Dr
Woman On The Verge Of A Nervous Break Down
West Side Story
In The Bedroom



so you see, indie films dont have to star white people.....or beautiful people....

but thanks for trying to slam me...



(damn...this site sometimes...people always trying to cut someone down...silly ass shit...)

and Yes, i know westsidestory isnt an indie film..but its one of my favorites.....and i can do or say whatever the hell i want...

sosgemini said:

I'm not trying to slam you, but still not clear on what makes it a subgenre. Scarlett Johanssen is anything but ugly, in my opinion. Wouldn't In The Bedroom qualify as an UWP movie?

By the way, Mullholland Drive is one of my top all-time favorites too.

sosgemini said:

suit yourself then, I won't bother...

sosgemini said:

I understand what you're saying. And I know you, so I know you're neither racist nor hateful. But if you're gonna use the term "ugly white people movies", you gotta expect some backlash.

That said, Sideways didn't work for me because I saw it as a "middle aged white guy movie." The performances were solid, it was clever, and definitely good, but I thought it was horrendously overhyped. It just wasn't all that.
[Edited 7/9/05 12:29pm]

I feel compelled to question your comments, sosgemini, not as a personal attack, but because physical beauty is so extremely overvalued in this society, especially in film. I actually find it refreshing when non-beautiful people, non-movie stars, non-famous people appear in films and I wish there were more of them.

sosgemini said:

This is one of my all-time favorite movies as well. It's also my favorite soundtrack, along with HAIR. Incredible songs, incredible choreography.

madartista said:

That's exactly how I felt about it too.

heartbeatocean said:

I don't think he's using ugly as a comment on the physical appearance, but as a comment on who the characters in these movies are.

i thought this would diffuse any seriousness from my comments folks:




its not that deep.....

and yes, In The Bedroom had ugly people in it but it had an engrossing story.....

im mainly talking about lil slice of life barely visible plotline films...one's with no artistic flare.....boring passing and boring cinematography and boring editing.....


should i call them american ingrid bergman films instead of "ugly white people movies"?

it doesnt sound as cute though..

heartbeatocean said:

I. CANT. DO.

HAIR!!

(except for neil carter rolling her eyes and hoping up and down during White Boys.)

sosgemini said:

You know this site better than that!!!
Most people are looking to be offended.

madartista said:

geez, guys, it takes more to offend me than that

madartista said:

Now, if he said "unhappy white people" that makes more sense to me.

heartbeatocean said:

now you know me better then that..when does anything that come out of my mouth make sense?



and i like my world that way!!

sosgemini said:

Oh, those are the best kind. What do you think of Jim Jarmusch movies? I worship Jim Jarmusch.

heartbeatocean said:

havent seen them but from what i understand, Dead Man (or whatever from Johhny Depp) would qualify as an ugly white person film...

you know who does ugly white people movies right?

Atom Egoyan

I loved The Sweet Here After and Exotica...