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Thread started 07/06/05 3:59pm

StaticDeth

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Serial Killers

Who is your favorite? Who shook you up the most? Who would make you want to buy a guy to protect yourself?

David Berkowitz
Andrew Cunanan
Albert Fish
Peter Kurten
Carl Panzram
Ottis Toole
The Zodiac Killer
Ted Bundy
Jeffrey Dahmer
John Wayne Gacy
Jack The Ripper
Henry Lee Lucas
Richard Ramirez
Wayne Williams
Andrei Chikatilo
Albert Desalvo
Ed Gein
Edmund Kemper
Charles Manson
Richard Speck
Aileen Wournos
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Reply #1 posted 07/06/05 4:07pm

superspaceboy

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Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #2 posted 07/06/05 4:08pm

Natsume

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superspaceboy said:


stoned
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #3 posted 07/06/05 4:10pm

HobbesLeCute

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superspaceboy said:


That lousy fuck killed my father!
~ I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR ~
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Reply #4 posted 07/06/05 4:12pm

Sweeny79

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Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy freak me out lots.

Manson fasinates me though.
In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.
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Reply #5 posted 07/06/05 4:32pm

TMPletz

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Reply #6 posted 07/06/05 4:33pm

Dugen

I don't have a favorite, but The Son Of Sam will always stand out most 2 me because my mother and I lived in the same area as him. In fact, she recalled seeing him at a local deli once.
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Reply #7 posted 07/06/05 11:38pm

byronic

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StaticDeth said:

Who is your favorite? Who shook you up the most? Who would make you want to buy a guy to protect yourself?

David Berkowitz
Andrew Cunanan
Albert Fish
Peter Kurten
Carl Panzram
Ottis Toole
The Zodiac Killer
Ted Bundy
Jeffrey Dahmer
John Wayne Gacy
Jack The Ripper
Henry Lee Lucas
Richard Ramirez
Wayne Williams
Andrei Chikatilo
Albert Desalvo
Ed Gein
Edmund Kemper
Charles Manson
Richard Speck
Aileen Wournos



Ed Gein is arguably the most influential, between him and Jack the ripper they virtually inspired the entire modern serial killer literary/film genre. the others, despite having more kills are just also rans.
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Reply #8 posted 07/06/05 11:40pm

crazyhorse

byronic said:

StaticDeth said:

Who is your favorite? Who shook you up the most? Who would make you want to buy a guy to protect yourself?

David Berkowitz
Andrew Cunanan
Albert Fish
Peter Kurten
Carl Panzram
Ottis Toole
The Zodiac Killer
Ted Bundy
Jeffrey Dahmer
John Wayne Gacy
Jack The Ripper
Henry Lee Lucas
Richard Ramirez
Wayne Williams
Andrei Chikatilo
Albert Desalvo
Ed Gein
Edmund Kemper
Charles Manson
Richard Speck
Aileen Wournos



Ed Gein is arguably the most influential, between him and Jack the ripper they virtually inspired the entire modern serial killer literary/film genre. the others, despite having more kills are just also rans.

I agree, but I don't think I'd call Albert Fish an "also ran."
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Reply #9 posted 07/06/05 11:53pm

byronic

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crazyhorse said:

byronic said:




Ed Gein is arguably the most influential, between him and Jack the ripper they virtually inspired the entire modern serial killer literary/film genre. the others, despite having more kills are just also rans.

I agree, but I don't think I'd call Albert Fish an "also ran."

Fish was a bad man and a monster, there's no doubt about it. But he was SO obviously crazy that he doesn't really inspire the same fear that gein and the ripper do, Ed Gein was a kindly mommas boy, and jack the ripper was a shadow. Fish was a wacko who shoved cotton balls up his anus and set them on fire and embedded needles in his body. the fact that he was a child murderer, makes him horrific in an entirely different way then the other two, but his obvious insanity makes him less creepy then those that blend in. it's the difference between the Wolf that is among us or the Wolf that comes from outside.
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Reply #10 posted 07/06/05 11:59pm

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StaticDeth said:

Who would make you want to buy a guy to protect yourself?

Richard Ramirez

I did buy a gun when The Night Stalker was on the loose.


tA

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Reply #11 posted 07/07/05 12:03am

crazyhorse

byronic said:

crazyhorse said:


I agree, but I don't think I'd call Albert Fish an "also ran."

Fish was a bad man and a monster, there's no doubt about it. But he was SO obviously crazy that he doesn't really inspire the same fear that gein and the ripper do, Ed Gein was a kindly mommas boy, and jack the ripper was a shadow. Fish was a wacko who shoved cotton balls up his anus and set them on fire and embedded needles in his body. the fact that he was a child murderer, makes him horrific in an entirely different way then the other two, but his obvious insanity makes him less creepy then those that blend in. it's the difference between the Wolf that is among us or the Wolf that comes from outside.

True ...
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Reply #12 posted 07/07/05 12:06am

byronic

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theAudience said:

StaticDeth said:

Who would make you want to buy a guy to protect yourself?

Richard Ramirez

I did buy a gun when The Night Stalker was on the loose.


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm

the scariest thing about ramirez is that he apparently didn't have a specific "type" he killed anyone from 8 to 80 literally. men and women it didn't matter. it was the randomness of the killings that made him so frightening. plus the satanic imagery.
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Reply #13 posted 07/07/05 12:06am

MIGUELGOMEZ

I'm fascinated by all Serial Killers. People think I'm weird because of that. My fascination is how they got that way. DAHMER is fascinating to me because whenever he was interviewed he was always calm and honest. He was really really mentally ill, obviously. GEIN was a freak also. What am I saying they all are.


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Reply #14 posted 07/07/05 12:07am

Reincarnate

StaticDeth said:

Who shook you up the most?


Armin Meiwes' trial shocked me most - he was not a serial killer but definately fit the profile I believe. I think the most shocking part of the case for me was the compliance of his victim.

This is the guy who cut off another guys penis (with his consent), flambeed it and shared it with him and then filmed himself killing the victim (again, initially with the victim's consent, although he changed his mind mid-murder, I believe), with the intention of eating the rest of the body later.

Two very disturbed men.
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Reply #15 posted 07/07/05 12:13am

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byronic said:

theAudience said:


I did buy a gun when The Night Stalker was on the loose.


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm

the scariest thing about ramirez is that he apparently didn't have a specific "type" he killed anyone from 8 to 80 literally. men and women it didn't matter. it was the randomness of the killings that made him so frightening. plus the satanic imagery.

He touched my area of Los Angeles.
And for the very facts you mentioned, I decided that if he came into my house and threatened my family, he was going down.

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm
"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all."
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Reply #16 posted 07/07/05 12:14am

crazyhorse

Ottis Toole really freaked me out. That guy was so damn creepy.

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Reply #17 posted 07/07/05 12:33am

byronic

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theAudience said:

byronic said:


the scariest thing about ramirez is that he apparently didn't have a specific "type" he killed anyone from 8 to 80 literally. men and women it didn't matter. it was the randomness of the killings that made him so frightening. plus the satanic imagery.

He touched my area of Los Angeles.
And for the very facts you mentioned, I decided that if he came into my house and threatened my family, he was going down.

I hear you, I live in the DC area and was here a couple of years ago when we had the beltway snipers and that definately freaked me out, i remember walking in zig-zags whenever i got out of my car and looking around for any white vans. proxemity makes things much scarier.
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Reply #18 posted 07/07/05 12:42am

crazyhorse

When I was a kid we lived about fifteen miles away from the dumping area of the Hillside Stranglers. I remember that really scaring me.
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Reply #19 posted 07/07/05 12:52am

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There's was a movie back in '94 titled No Escape starring Ray Liotta.

It had one of the best ideas for dealing with violent criminals like these.
Drop them off by helicoptor on an island in the middle of nowhere.
If they wanted food they had to grow it, housing they had to build it.
If they wanted to just kill each other, that was fine too.

It cost very little money and required almost no supervision.


tA

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Reply #20 posted 07/07/05 1:05am

MsLegs

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Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy freak me out lots.

nod That Dahmer was one screwed up fuck. It was sick how he got his jollies out of literally eating and disecting male parts ill
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Reply #21 posted 07/07/05 4:26am

jerseykrs

Who's the russian serial killer? I forgot his name, but saw a story on him on tv, he was pretty damn interesting.
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Reply #22 posted 07/07/05 5:59am

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MsLegs said:

Sweeny79 said:

Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy freak me out lots.

nod That Dahmer was one screwed up fuck. It was sick how he got his jollies out of literally eating and disecting male parts ill



taht Dahmer incidents happened really close to were I live
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Reply #23 posted 07/07/05 6:04am

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The Zodiac is the most intriguing because of eye witness accounts and the mysterious nature to his actions.

There was another serial killer around Cleveland/Chicago (?) during Elliot Ness' (of Untouchables fame-he was real) time as commissioner. Killed 5 or so. It was the one case Elliot Ness could not solve.
"Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish."
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Reply #24 posted 07/07/05 7:49am

Byron

Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka...their story just was impossible for me to fathom intellectually (and especially emotionally). I didn't "fear" them, though...but reading about their crimes effected me. It was impossible for me to say anyone's "normal" for awhile there... disbelief

Here's a book on the couple:




Like Miguel, I'm fascinated by the psychological aspects behind someone who perceives life the way serial killers do...their thought process, their rationalization, sometimes their complete lack of conscience....the events in their lives which helped shape their darker adult years...and sometimes it just "happens" without any real indication that it ever could. Those are the ones that tend to effect me the most, because the violence truly has no indicator from the person's past to offer that feeling of safety.

The crimes themselves are often hard to read, and I've put down more than one book while reading those sections, shaking my head and sighing as I do. I can't read a book that does little more than focus on the acts committed...there has to be an investigation into the mindset in order for me to continue reading it, as well as an investigation into the policework that lead to the capture.
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Reply #25 posted 07/07/05 7:51am

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Byron said:

Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka...their story just was impossible for me to fathom intellectually (and especially emotionally). I didn't "fear" them, though...but reading about their crimes effected me. It was impossible for me to say anyone's "normal" for awhile there... disbelief

Here's a book on the couple:




Like Miguel, I'm fascinated by the psychological aspects behind someone who perceives life the way serial killers do...their thought process, their rationalization, sometimes their complete lack of conscience....the events in their lives which helped shape their darker adult years...and sometimes it just "happens" without any real indication that it ever could. Those are the ones that tend to effect me the most, because the violence truly has no indicator from the person's past to offer that feeling of safety.

The crimes themselves are often hard to read, and I've put down more than one book while reading those sections, shaking my head and sighing as I do. I can't read a book that does little more than focus on the acts committed...there has to be an investigation into the mindset in order for me to continue reading it, as well as an investigation into the policework that lead to the capture.


and they video taped their crimes

good lord

she may get released one day

this would be a great mistake





the guy who just slaughtered that family and

took the two kids

its mortifying what the fuck goes on on this planet
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Reply #26 posted 07/07/05 7:53am

brownsugar

ted bundy scared me alot. how could he hate women so much? it was scary that almost all of his victims looked alike.
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Reply #27 posted 07/07/05 8:05am

MIGUELGOMEZ

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Byron said:

Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka...their story just was impossible for me to fathom intellectually (and especially emotionally). I didn't "fear" them, though...but reading about their crimes effected me. It was impossible for me to say anyone's "normal" for awhile there... disbelief

Here's a book on the couple:




Like Miguel, I'm fascinated by the psychological aspects behind someone who perceives life the way serial killers do...their thought process, their rationalization, sometimes their complete lack of conscience....the events in their lives which helped shape their darker adult years...and sometimes it just "happens" without any real indication that it ever could. Those are the ones that tend to effect me the most, because the violence truly has no indicator from the person's past to offer that feeling of safety.

The crimes themselves are often hard to read, and I've put down more than one book while reading those sections, shaking my head and sighing as I do. I can't read a book that does little more than focus on the acts committed...there has to be an investigation into the mindset in order for me to continue reading it, as well as an investigation into the policework that lead to the capture.


and they video taped their crimes

good lord

she may get released one day

this would be a great mistake





the guy who just slaughtered that family and

took the two kids

its mortifying what the fuck goes on on this planet




She was released this weekend I believe. I'll find the story and post it. She had cut a deal to stay in prison for ONLY 12 years.

http://news.yahoo.com/new.../homolka_1

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Reply #28 posted 07/07/05 8:05am

pardonme4livin

I don't really have a "preference" so to say...they are all friggin' scary and creepy as hell.

John Wayne Gacy was the "clown" guy though right? That and the movie "IT" kinda made me rethink the whole whimsical clown thing disbelief

The scene from "IT" when the little boy looks in the storm grate and see the clown....scariest scene ever in a movie! eek

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Reply #29 posted 07/07/05 8:06am

Byron

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and they video taped their crimes

good lord

she may get released one day

this would be a great mistake





the guy who just slaughtered that family and

took the two kids

its mortifying what the fuck goes on on this planet

I know... *sigh* disbelief Apparently Karla has been getting death threats if she gets released from prison.






I can't match up this image of this couple, and the crimes committed. sigh
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