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what is LOVE to you??? do you think that if you love someone and you get intimate with that person but you don´t really like the way they do "perform"...does that effect the feeling?And if on the other side the "sex" or Love making is great do you love them even more?Does sex have anything to do with love???
Or the Love we have for our children...I as a mother can say, I would do anything for my child! I would die so my child could live (extrem thought) but I never feld that way for a man....was I ever in Love??? | |
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Persormance in bed does not effect my feelings. no.
I would do anything for the woman I love, including rinking my life to save hers. | |
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You can't compare love for your child with love for your man, they're simply two completely different types of love. In a way you could say that the love for the child is stronger since it is purer and also unconditional, but at the same time it's not as multifacteted as love for another adult. Like I said, they're not really comparable.
When it comes to sex I can separate it from love, but not to the degree that I can love one person and have sex with another. To have sex with someone I don't love works fine though, as does being in love with someone I'm not having sex with. | |
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retina said: You can't compare love for your child with love for your man, they're simply two completely different types of love. In a way you could say that the love for the child is stronger since it is purer and also unconditional, but at the same time it's not as multifacteted as love for another adult. Like I said, they're not really comparable.
When it comes to sex I can separate it from love, but not to the degree that I can love one person and have sex with another. To have sex with someone I don't love works fine though, as does being in love with someone I'm not having sex with. I'm sorry to disagree, but love for a man or a woman could also be unconditional. | |
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Heavenly said: retina said: You can't compare love for your child with love for your man, they're simply two completely different types of love. In a way you could say that the love for the child is stronger since it is purer and also unconditional, but at the same time it's not as multifacteted as love for another adult. Like I said, they're not really comparable.
When it comes to sex I can separate it from love, but not to the degree that I can love one person and have sex with another. To have sex with someone I don't love works fine though, as does being in love with someone I'm not having sex with. I'm sorry to disagree, but love for a man or a woman could also be unconditional. How? There were reasons why you fell in love in the first place and if those reasons disappear along the way then you'll find it hard to stay in love. With children, you love them right from the start and that doesn't change whatever they do. No offense, but I think it sounds a bit naive to believe that love between adults can be unconditional. Edit: typo  [Edited 7/2/05 13:02pm] | |
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I would probably scare away half of my org friends if I waxed on about what love means to me..... | |
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retina said: Heavenly said: I'm sorry to disagree, but love for a man or a woman could also be unconditional. How? There were reasons why you fell in love in the first place and if those reasons disappear along the way then you'll find it hard to stay in love. With children, you love them right from the start and that doesn't change whatever you they. No offense, but I think it sounds a bit naive to believe that love between adults can be unconditional. We can only answer this when we die I guess. I know some people whose love for each other is unconditional. I think the love for my boyfriend is just as well, but I guess I'll only have the right to speak when I'm dying. Still, love can be very unconditional on the moment itself. On the other hand, my parents have done very shitty things to me during the last two years. Sure, their love for me might be unconditional, but still my boyfriend respects me much more, if you know what I mean. | |
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retina said: Heavenly said: I'm sorry to disagree, but love for a man or a woman could also be unconditional. How? There were reasons why you fell in love in the first place and if those reasons disappear along the way then you'll find it hard to stay in love. With children, you love them right from the start and that doesn't change whatever you they. No offense, but I think it sounds a bit naive to believe that love between adults can be unconditional. I disagree again 
The person I fell in love with, I actually loved from the moment we've met. She is a changed person these days, lives her own life, has different feelings, different ways of life and yet I still love her unconditionally. meaning I don't expect anything in return for my love. It's there. it exists and it's as strong as it was when we were together. What I'm saying is, there are no conditions to my love. | |
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Heavenly said: Persormance in bed does not effect my feelings. no.
I would do anything for the woman I love, including rinking my life to save hers. if you can be in love with a person u dont have sex with, how would it affect that if at all, if you do start having sex (either way, good or bad) and if you say, u dont have sex, then why not, is there no desire or what makes it beeing in love? what seperates sex from love and how do you know the difference when u in love or in lust? | |
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jerseykrs said: I would probably scare away half of my org friends if I waxed on about what love means to me.....
You scare us without waxing too  | |
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darlingmel said: Heavenly said: Persormance in bed does not effect my feelings. no.
I would do anything for the woman I love, including rinking my life to save hers. if you can be in love with a person u dont have sex with, how would it affect that if at all, if you do start having sex (either way, good or bad) and if you say, u dont have sex, then why not, is there no desire or what makes it beeing in love? what seperates sex from love and how do you know the difference when u in love or in lust? Making love to me is in my mind. the body is only a tool to show the love that is in my heart and mind. So the performance will always feel perfect to me even if physically it's not. | |
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Heavenly said: retina said: How? There were reasons why you fell in love in the first place and if those reasons disappear along the way then you'll find it hard to stay in love. With children, you love them right from the start and that doesn't change whatever you they. No offense, but I think it sounds a bit naive to believe that love between adults can be unconditional. I disagree again
The person I fell in love with, I actually loved from the moment we've met. She is a changed person these days, lives her own life, has different feelings, different ways of life and yet I still love her unconditionally. meaning I don't expect anything in return for my love. It's there. it exists and it's as strong as it was when we were together. What I'm saying is, there are no conditions to my love. I'm sure there's something she can do that can make you fall out of love with her. I know it sounds silly, but imagine for a moment that she would go crazy and try to harm you in every way. I'm sure you wouldn't love such a person. You might still love the memory of what she was back then, but not what she has become. Love for your children is something quite unique in my opinion, but it sounds like we have to agree to disagree here.  | |
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retina said: Heavenly said: I disagree again
The person I fell in love with, I actually loved from the moment we've met. She is a changed person these days, lives her own life, has different feelings, different ways of life and yet I still love her unconditionally. meaning I don't expect anything in return for my love. It's there. it exists and it's as strong as it was when we were together. What I'm saying is, there are no conditions to my love. I'm sure there's something she can do that can make you fall out of love with her. I know it sounds silly, but imagine for a moment that she would go crazy and try to harm you in every way. I'm sure you wouldn't love such a person. You might still love the memory of what she was back then, but not what she has become. Love for your children is something quite unique in my opinion, but it sounds like we have to agree to disagree here. I agree that love for your children is different, that is why you cannot compare the both. But no, nothing she can do will change my feelings. It would make me run away in fear, but will not change my feelings. | |
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retina said: Heavenly said: I disagree again
The person I fell in love with, I actually loved from the moment we've met. She is a changed person these days, lives her own life, has different feelings, different ways of life and yet I still love her unconditionally. meaning I don't expect anything in return for my love. It's there. it exists and it's as strong as it was when we were together. What I'm saying is, there are no conditions to my love. I'm sure there's something she can do that can make you fall out of love with her. I know it sounds silly, but imagine for a moment that she would go crazy and try to harm you in every way. I'm sure you wouldn't love such a person. You might still love the memory of what she was back then, but not what she has become. Love for your children is something quite unique in my opinion, but it sounds like we have to agree to disagree here. I agree love for our children is unique and not compareble to love between adults...but still what is the difference between Love and beeing in love or beeing in lust? | |
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darlingmel said: retina said: I'm sure there's something she can do that can make you fall out of love with her. I know it sounds silly, but imagine for a moment that she would go crazy and try to harm you in every way. I'm sure you wouldn't love such a person. You might still love the memory of what she was back then, but not what she has become. Love for your children is something quite unique in my opinion, but it sounds like we have to agree to disagree here. I agree love for our children is unique and not compareble to love between adults...but still what is the difference between Love and beeing in love or beeing in lust? Maybe if we would be able to answer these questions we would lose all those feelings.
For me there is no black and white. Just so many inbetweens. I mean I would never touch I child, but I can fall in love for two minutes with the minuscule hairs on a children's arm. | |
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Heavenly said: retina said: How? There were reasons why you fell in love in the first place and if those reasons disappear along the way then you'll find it hard to stay in love. With children, you love them right from the start and that doesn't change whatever you they. No offense, but I think it sounds a bit naive to believe that love between adults can be unconditional. I disagree again
The person I fell in love with, I actually loved from the moment we've met. She is a changed person these days, lives her own life, has different feelings, different ways of life and yet I still love her unconditionally. meaning I don't expect anything in return for my love. It's there. it exists and it's as strong as it was when we were together. What I'm saying is, there are no conditions to my love. so what happend if u dont mind me asking, with your loved one and you? since u live seperate lifes now, do you think u can find a similar love again or do you think this only happens once in a life time | |
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darlingmel said: Heavenly said: I disagree again
The person I fell in love with, I actually loved from the moment we've met. She is a changed person these days, lives her own life, has different feelings, different ways of life and yet I still love her unconditionally. meaning I don't expect anything in return for my love. It's there. it exists and it's as strong as it was when we were together. What I'm saying is, there are no conditions to my love. so what happend if u dont mind me asking, with your loved one and you? since u live seperate lifes now, do you think u can find a similar love again or do you think this only happens once in a life time What happened is that we live in sepaprate countries, and I guess her love for me wasn't as strong. she has moved on to someone else and very happy in her life. I'm very happy for her, and wish her the best. My feelings haven't changed and it's been 2 years since. I don't believe it'll ever change, only time will tell, but I'm ready to find someone who I could love the same way. One that I will be able to stay with. | |
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Heavenly said: darlingmel said: so what happend if u dont mind me asking, with your loved one and you? since u live seperate lifes now, do you think u can find a similar love again or do you think this only happens once in a life time What happened is that we live in sepaprate countries, and I guess her love for me wasn't as strong. she has moved on to someone else and very happy in her life. I'm very happy for her, and wish her the best. My feelings haven't changed and it's been 2 years since. I don't believe it'll ever change, only time will tell, but I'm ready to find someone who I could love the same way. One that I will be able to stay with.  I've cried for four years over a boy I had been with for only nine months, until he broke up with me. And when I say 'cry' I really mean  for a long time. I thought I could never feel the same.
And I never felt the same. You can't compare two loves to each other. But the feelings I have for my recent boyfriend are just as strong, less scaring and much healthier. [Edited 7/2/05 13:26pm] [Edited 7/2/05 13:27pm] | |
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Hell I'm an idiot sometimes. [Edited 7/2/05 13:27pm] | |
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MarieLouise said: Heavenly said: What happened is that we live in sepaprate countries, and I guess her love for me wasn't as strong. she has moved on to someone else and very happy in her life. I'm very happy for her, and wish her the best. My feelings haven't changed and it's been 2 years since. I don't believe it'll ever change, only time will tell, but I'm ready to find someone who I could love the same way. One that I will be able to stay with. I've cried fo four years over a boy I had been with for only nine months, until he broke up with me. And when I say 'cry' I really mean for a long time. I thought I could never feel the same.
And I never felt the same. You can't compare two loves to each other. But the feelings I have for my recent boyfriend are just as strong, less scaring and much healthier. [Edited 7/2/05 13:26pm] 100% agree. That is what I'm going for. | |
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jerseykrs said: I would probably scare away half of my org friends if I waxed on about what love means to me.....
Scare me, Jers...I have all the time in the world (tonight anyway) | |
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I can't talk in apublic forum....LMFAO | |
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jerseykrs said: I can't talk in apublic forum....LMFAO
To which, you want me to reply, let's talk in private ? | |
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LO>LOL, just saying!! | |
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jerseykrs said: LO>LOL, just saying!!
You really are quite shitfaced. How can you mess up LOL ? | |
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Fleshofmyflesh said: jerseykrs said: LO>LOL, just saying!!
You really are quite shitfaced. How can you mess up LOL ? + hahaha, at least the ">" is near the L! | |
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darlingmel said: Heavenly said: Persormance in bed does not effect my feelings. no.
I would do anything for the woman I love, including rinking my life to save hers. if you can be in love with a person u dont have sex with, how would it affect that if at all, if you do start having sex (either way, good or bad) and if you say, u dont have sex, then why not, is there no desire or what makes it beeing in love? what seperates sex from love and how do you know the difference when u in love or in lust? In the passing of a relationship.... I think lust is just that feeling of "awwww..." and then, "o well", when someone new walks by two minutes later. Love is more like a ... "OH GOD why am i forced to go back to life without this person...I'll be good, God, I swear I'll be good..."You say "o well", but never mean it. Even after nothing comes back to the way it was, you still hope it will in your heart of hearts. In a relationship-- lust is...when you roll over and wonder when the hell their leaving/ how the hell your gonna get out of there as quick as possible, even though it was good. Love is...when you fall asleep in the last position, wake up and wonder if he wants breakfast, because its always excellent. Lust is looking at the actual motion of the body-- starng at the motion of the hips... Love is not being able to take your eyes off their face. Lust wonders if you gave it up too soon, Love wonders why it took so long. Theres quite a difference. I could go on all night. 
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If you really love someone, it doesn't matter how they "perform".
Anyway... for me, love isn't that cushy, huggy, stars in the eyes feeling - to me that's lust and lust and love are two very different things, which, often times, are mistaken for one another. It's just a matter of knowing. Love is there when it doesn't take effort, when it doesn't take doing this or doing that... it's just there. And, I feel that you can love someone with all your heart but not work well with that person in a relationship. | |
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cinnamonjo said: darlingmel said: if you can be in love with a person u dont have sex with, how would it affect that if at all, if you do start having sex (either way, good or bad) and if you say, u dont have sex, then why not, is there no desire or what makes it beeing in love? what seperates sex from love and how do you know the difference when u in love or in lust? In the passing of a relationship.... I think lust is just that feeling of "awwww..." and then, "o well", when someone new walks by two minutes later. Love is more like a ... "OH GOD why am i forced to go back to life without this person...I'll be good, God, I swear I'll be good..."You say "o well", but never mean it. Even after nothing comes back to the way it was, you still hope it will in your heart of hearts. In a relationship-- lust is...when you roll over and wonder when the hell their leaving/ how the hell your gonna get out of there as quick as possible, even though it was good. Love is...when you fall asleep, wake up and wonder if he wants breakfast, and nothing even happened. Lust is looking at the actual motion of the body-- starng at the motion of the hips...in sex, in dance, while they walk... Love is not being able to take your eyes off their face...(i didnt know someone i loved had vitiligo until a year into knowing him) Lust wonders if you gave it up too soon, Love wonders why it took so long. Theres quite a difference. I could go on all night.
Literally! Edit --PS-- this post was ot just about sexual gratification-- love isnt really about that, but lust is. Dynamic Savior Said: Also, do you think that ugly people are God's cruel joke on humanity (like the platypus and the heterosexual) or another form of population control? | |
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cinnamonjo said: cinnamonjo said: In the passing of a relationship.... I think lust is just that feeling of "awwww..." and then, "o well", when someone new walks by two minutes later. Love is more like a ... "OH GOD why am i forced to go back to life without this person...I'll be good, God, I swear I'll be good..."You say "o well", but never mean it. Even after nothing comes back to the way it was, you still hope it will in your heart of hearts. In a relationship-- lust is...when you roll over and wonder when the hell their leaving/ how the hell your gonna get out of there as quick as possible, even though it was good. Love is...when you fall asleep, wake up and wonder if he wants breakfast, and nothing even happened. Lust is looking at the actual motion of the body-- starng at the motion of the hips...in sex, in dance, while they walk... Love is not being able to take your eyes off their face...(i didnt know someone i loved had vitiligo until a year into knowing him) Lust wonders if you gave it up too soon, Love wonders why it took so long. Theres quite a difference. I could go on all night.
Literally! Edit --PS-- this post was ot just about sexual gratification-- love isnt really about that, but lust is.  Well Said. You pretty much touched on all the points that I was going to hit.  | |
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