imagine of alcohol could only be made from MEAT! what would you do then????

charlottegelin said:

Hang on, u mean it isn't? Then why the hell am I drinking it????

Fauxie said:

or tea, brewed from meat

charlottegelin said:

Don't go there, please.

Dewrede said:

you would have to give up the beers - ha!

That's all just hypothetical

but i definitely would

Dewrede said:

I would certainly hope so

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meow85 said:

This is also my motto. More or less, if you eat food in moderation and don't overdue it then, you are ok. But, the problem is that society tends to overconsume meats and eat less vegatables which is unbalenced.

MsLegs said:

There's a reason there's an obesity epidemic, for sure...

meow85 said:

Yep! Add in all the chips (french fries) and the lack of exercise and you have a winning combination!!!

LolaM said:

I have pretty bad eating habits, but I dfeinitely get more than my share of exercise, so I figure it all evens out.

Reincarnate said:

to a degree you're both right in your own way, IMO.

no one needs anyone elses lifestyle choice rammed down their throat.

suggestions should always be acceptable however. tolerance is key.

you can be a fat veget or vegan..



michael moore anyone?

rosie?

luis anderson?

sosgemini said:

well, you know us vegans...

charlottegelin said:

the thought alone gives me the willies!

sosgemini said:

i'm quite fat too

Dewrede said:

i'm far from skinny, but i do believe i'm a lot healthier. my cholesterol has dropped 70+ points from my meat-eating days.

oh, and of course i'd do Michael Moore. veg or no veg. (just to prove Sos' point... )

Couple of things to say on this one.

I used to be a vastly more annoying vegetarian than I am now. I don't think I was wrong. I think that the individuals who are suffering from inhumane treatment are unable to speak up for themselves, and it's fine for concerned humans to do so. I was, and still am, willing to have the debate. And I'm GOOD at the debate. I'm convinced that I am on the winning side of it, philosophically.

What I've figured out with time, though, is that I have to respect that people don't all have the energy or inclination to give a damn. And there are lots of other causes, lots of other wrongs in the world, that I'm NOT out fighting or going to great lengths to change via my behaviors. I pick the ones that I feel strongly about, due to whatever personal inclinations I have. Other people are gonna do that too. Hopefully the collective result is that problems in this world occasionally get solved by the people who are worrying about them.

On the veg issue, lots of people are more aware than they used to be, the fake meat section of the grocery store just keeps getting bigger, and the medical research showing that plant foods should be the mainstay of a healthy diet only gets more solid, so I feel ok about settling down into a position where I avoid animal products myself, am happy to explain to others why I do, but don't feel the need to jump up and down and scream about it all the time.

There.

sosgemini said:

Yeah, fat vegan here. Fat vegan who eats healthy, is active, and has perfect blood pressure/cholesterol numbers. Can't make assumptions about fat folks OR vegans.
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sosgemini said:

yes, that's because it's the overeating of processed flour and sugar that leads more to obesity than the meat. flour and sugar are unnatural things and we should eat more meat and vegetables with no pasta and no sugar

sosgemini said:

me

I feel a new thread coming on .... "are all vegetarians fat?"

Reincarnate said:

"only the really cool ones!"

byronic said:

it's the beer that got me fat i think

i don't think pasta is fattening , really

IrresistibleB1tch said:

that's good

but doing Michal Moore

Dewrede said:

i like 'em chunky! and afterwards, we can talk about US foreign policy and the corporate media!