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Reply #60 posted 07/05/05 1:47am

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Reply #61 posted 07/05/05 2:13am

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Who actually buys HufuTM?
HufuTM was originally conceived of as a product for students of anthropology hungry for the experience of cannibalism but deterred by the legal and logistical obstacles. However, our preliminary market research revealed the existence of a larger segment of the public that was interested in the availability of a legal and healthy human flesh substitute, as well as vegetarians and vegans.We also found that HufuTM is a great product for cannibals who want to quit. HufuTM is also a great cannibal convenience food -- no more Friday night hunting raids! Stay at home and enjoy the flavorful, convenient human flesh alternative.


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Reply #62 posted 07/05/05 2:24am

IrresistibleB1
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meow85 said:

Dewrede said:

Finally someone who acknowledges the fact that humans are meat too ;

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eating meat is almost cannibalism , imo , after all , we're nothing but mamal

I do eat meat, but this has occurred to me more than a few times when I sit down for a meal. To really be consistent, I'd either have to take up eating human flesh, or give up meat altogether.

Something to think on for a while, I think. hmmm


a report on cannibalism is what made me become a vegetarian in the first place. i remember exactly where i was when i heard the report on the radio, looked down at my arm and thought that flesh is flesh... all the other reasons came later, but that was my initial impetus for going veg.
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Reply #63 posted 07/05/05 2:39am

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thumbs up!

I stopped eating meat when i was around 7 and i heard that some calfs are bred
in small boxes and never get to see the light of day , i never wanted to eat meat since sad
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Reply #64 posted 07/05/05 2:47am

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I was disappointed by this thread. I thought it was gonna be a guide on how to go about annoying vegetarians....pout
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Reply #65 posted 07/05/05 2:56am

Reincarnate

rocknrolldave said:

I was disappointed by this thread. I thought it was gonna be a guide on how to go about annoying vegetarians....pout

Your presence here is all that's required. Well done Dave - mission accomplished razz
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Reply #66 posted 07/05/05 3:01am

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Reincarnate said:

rocknrolldave said:

I was disappointed by this thread. I thought it was gonna be a guide on how to go about annoying vegetarians....pout

Your presence here is all that's required. Well done Dave - mission accomplished razz
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Reply #67 posted 07/05/05 4:53am

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Reincarnate said:

rocknrolldave said:

I was disappointed by this thread. I thought it was gonna be a guide on how to go about annoying vegetarians....pout

Your presence here is all that's required. Well done Dave - mission accomplished razz
[Edited 7/5/05 2:59am]


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Reply #68 posted 07/05/05 6:15am

LolaM

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People of all diets can be fucking preachy. But unless they're concerned for your health, it's best just to ignore them.

Myself -I don't eat much meat, but I do enjoy it every once in a while. I've got some self-imposed rules about eating meat that I've been told is pretty fuckered up. You know how some people are veg b/c they don't want to eat something that's cute? (Not common, of course, but it happens) I have no problem eating a cute animal like a rabbit or something, but I can't bring myself to eat a smart animal or a predator.

I can't eat pork because pigs are just so intelligent. Lucky for me, cows aren't particularly smart, so I can make with the burger eating. smile

I once ate bear meat though, and it felt so unnatural In nature, a bear could tear my 100 lb. self to shreds. I shouldn't be eating soemthing that can do that. neutral


I think a cow could pretty much handle you aswell if it came down to it lol
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Reply #69 posted 07/05/05 6:16am

LolaM

Dewrede said:

thumbs up!

I stopped eating meat when i was around 7 and i heard that some calfs are bred
in small boxes and never get to see the light of day , i never wanted to eat meat since sad


What kind of meat are they bred for??? Veal??? Just curious thats all.
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Reply #70 posted 07/05/05 6:18am

rocknrolldave

My Dad always says


"If we weren't supposed to eat animals, God wouldn't have made them out of meat"



big grin




My Mom, incidentally, makes a Beef Wellington to die for*








(*literally, if you are the cow involved)
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Reply #71 posted 07/05/05 6:22am

LolaM

rocknrolldave said:

My Dad always says


"If we weren't supposed to eat animals, God wouldn't have made them out of meat"



big grin




My Mom, incidentally, makes a Beef Wellington to die for*








(*literally, if you are the cow involved)


disbelief that joke is not going to go down well Dave
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Reply #72 posted 07/05/05 6:26am

rocknrolldave

LolaM said:

rocknrolldave said:

My Dad always says


"If we weren't supposed to eat animals, God wouldn't have made them out of meat"



big grin




My Mom, incidentally, makes a Beef Wellington to die for*








(*literally, if you are the cow involved)


disbelief that joke is not going to go down well Dave




It isn't, is it?



I think I just qualified for the Annoying Carnivores thread.....



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Reply #73 posted 07/05/05 6:38am

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what pisses me off, are the meat eaters who've only eaten the meat they find all prepacked and nice in the supermarket and have never killed anything. I buy prepackaged meat too, but I've hunted, I've killed, I've gutted and cleaned, and meat is so much better when you've sat in the freezing cold for half the day waiting for it and killed it yourself. if it wasn't for hunting, humans wouldn't have developed these amazing brains that enable us to argue about the morality of eating meat.
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Reply #74 posted 07/05/05 8:29am

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LolaM said:

Dewrede said:

thumbs up!

I stopped eating meat when i was around 7 and i heard that some calfs are bred
in small boxes and never get to see the light of day , i never wanted to eat meat since sad


What kind of meat are they bred for??? Veal??? Just curious thats all.


Yes , in a few months they give it much as food as they can so it'll grow as fast as it can , and then they slaughter it
and the poor creature doen't even get to see daylight and lives in a 1 square meter box or something disbelief
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Reply #75 posted 07/05/05 8:42am

IrresistibleB1
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Dewrede said:

LolaM said:



What kind of meat are they bred for??? Veal??? Just curious thats all.


Yes , in a few months they give it much as food as they can so it'll grow as fast as it can , and then they slaughter it
and the poor creature doen't even get to see daylight and lives in a 1 square meter box or something disbelief
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nod the goal is to achieve very tender, light-colored meat by restricting movement and making the calves anemic.

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Reply #76 posted 07/05/05 8:56am

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

Dewrede said:



Yes , in a few months they give it much as food as they can so it'll grow as fast as it can , and then they slaughter it
and the poor creature doen't even get to see daylight and lives in a 1 square meter box or something disbelief
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nod the goal is to achieve very tender, light-colored meat by restricting movement and making the calves anemic.




i refuse to eat veal, it's unnatural.
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Reply #77 posted 07/05/05 8:58am

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

Dewrede said:



Yes , in a few months they give it much as food as they can so it'll grow as fast as it can , and then they slaughter it
and the poor creature doen't even get to see daylight and lives in a 1 square meter box or something disbelief
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nod the goal is to achieve very tender, light-colored meat by restricting movement and making the calves anemic.



Yeah , it's really sickening disbelief
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Reply #78 posted 07/05/05 8:59am

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byronic said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



nod the goal is to achieve very tender, light-colored meat by restricting movement and making the calves anemic.




i refuse to eat veal, it's unnatural.


nod
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Reply #79 posted 07/06/05 4:58am

LolaM

Dewrede said:

LolaM said:



What kind of meat are they bred for??? Veal??? Just curious thats all.


Yes , in a few months they give it much as food as they can so it'll grow as fast as it can , and then they slaughter it
and the poor creature doen't even get to see daylight and lives in a 1 square meter box or something disbelief
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I was thinking it was veal. I refuse to eat that, but I suppose I'm a bit hypocritical because I do eat other meat. Granted, at least those cows, pigs, etc. get to see the light of day, feel the sun on their hide and get to munch on grass. As I said before on another thread, I did try to be vegetarian but allergies to wheat and gluten meant I couldn't eat meat subs like Quorn and stuff. I ended up gettin a bit run down and anaemic so I had to give up.
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Reply #80 posted 07/06/05 5:09am

IrresistibleB1
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LolaM said:

Dewrede said:



Yes , in a few months they give it much as food as they can so it'll grow as fast as it can , and then they slaughter it
and the poor creature doen't even get to see daylight and lives in a 1 square meter box or something disbelief
[Edited 7/5/05 8:30am]


I was thinking it was veal. I refuse to eat that, but I suppose I'm a bit hypocritical because I do eat other meat. Granted, at least those cows, pigs, etc. get to see the light of day, feel the sun on their hide and get to munch on grass. As I said before on another thread, I did try to be vegetarian but allergies to wheat and gluten meant I couldn't eat meat subs like Quorn and stuff. I ended up gettin a bit run down and anaemic so I had to give up.
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i'm sorry to hear that you were having problems going veg - you may want to try again, since there are a great number of products without gluten on the market now, making it easier than ever to be veg.

the one book on vegetarian nutrition that i think is by far the most comprehensive and easily understood is this one:

http://www.amazon.com/exe...64-7933708

i'm worried that some people, with the best of intentions, just stop eating meat without making sure they cover all of their nutritional needs. (not you, per se, Lola - i mean in general)

also, while Europe has implemented far stricter rules on factory farming, the US farming practices nowadays are a far cry from animals munching on grass in the sunshine. a good start for information on farming practices is www.factoryfarming.com

i think this thread turned out to be (to a great extent) an interesting discussion, rather than a veg bashing fest... thank you.
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Reply #81 posted 07/06/05 5:24am

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LolaM said:

Dewrede said:



Yes , in a few months they give it much as food as they can so it'll grow as fast as it can , and then they slaughter it
and the poor creature doen't even get to see daylight and lives in a 1 square meter box or something disbelief
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I was thinking it was veal. I refuse to eat that, but I suppose I'm a bit hypocritical because I do eat other meat. Granted, at least those cows, pigs, etc. get to see the light of day, feel the sun on their hide and get to munch on grass. As I said before on another thread, I did try to be vegetarian but allergies to wheat and gluten meant I couldn't eat meat subs like Quorn and stuff. I ended up gettin a bit run down and anaemic so I had to give up.
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Luckily i haven't experienced any health problems , being a vegetarian
It's good that you tried thumbs up!
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Reply #82 posted 07/06/05 5:35am

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

LolaM said:



I was thinking it was veal. I refuse to eat that, but I suppose I'm a bit hypocritical because I do eat other meat. Granted, at least those cows, pigs, etc. get to see the light of day, feel the sun on their hide and get to munch on grass. As I said before on another thread, I did try to be vegetarian but allergies to wheat and gluten meant I couldn't eat meat subs like Quorn and stuff. I ended up gettin a bit run down and anaemic so I had to give up.
[Edited 7/6/05 4:59am]


i'm sorry to hear that you were having problems going veg - you may want to try again, since there are a great number of products without gluten on the market now, making it easier than ever to be veg.

the one book on vegetarian nutrition that i think is by far the most comprehensive and easily understood is this one:

http://www.amazon.com/exe...64-7933708

i'm worried that some people, with the best of intentions, just stop eating meat without making sure they cover all of their nutritional needs. (not you, per se, Lola - i mean in general)

also, while Europe has implemented far stricter rules on factory farming, the US farming practices nowadays are a far cry from animals munching on grass in the sunshine. a good start for information on farming practices is www.factoryfarming.com

i think this thread turned out to be (to a great extent) an interesting discussion, rather than a veg bashing fest... thank you.



smile nod

I never really bothered about nutrition
Quite often i eat a veggie burger (they're some really tasty ones here)
or tofu , but i'm not following a strict diet , considering nutrition , i just don't eat meat
(maybe my body has become so used to it 'cause i haven't been eating meat for 23 years smile )


Looks like an interesting book , btw , thanks
I really don't know much about nutrition , i think i should learn more
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Reply #83 posted 07/06/05 6:00am

Reincarnate

IrresistibleB1tch said:

i think this thread turned out to be (to a great extent) an interesting discussion, rather than a veg bashing fest... thank you. [/b]

nod I agree
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Reply #84 posted 07/06/05 6:59am

LolaM

IrresistibleB1tch said:

LolaM said:



I was thinking it was veal. I refuse to eat that, but I suppose I'm a bit hypocritical because I do eat other meat. Granted, at least those cows, pigs, etc. get to see the light of day, feel the sun on their hide and get to munch on grass. As I said before on another thread, I did try to be vegetarian but allergies to wheat and gluten meant I couldn't eat meat subs like Quorn and stuff. I ended up gettin a bit run down and anaemic so I had to give up.
[Edited 7/6/05 4:59am]


i'm sorry to hear that you were having problems going veg - you may want to try again, since there are a great number of products without gluten on the market now, making it easier than ever to be veg.

the one book on vegetarian nutrition that i think is by far the most comprehensive and easily understood is this one:

http://www.amazon.com/exe...64-7933708

i'm worried that some people, with the best of intentions, just stop eating meat without making sure they cover all of their nutritional needs. (not you, per se, Lola - i mean in general)

also, while Europe has implemented far stricter rules on factory farming, the US farming practices nowadays are a far cry from animals munching on grass in the sunshine. a good start for information on farming practices is www.factoryfarming.com

i think this thread turned out to be (to a great extent) an interesting discussion, rather than a veg bashing fest... thank you.


I know quite a bit about farming practices through my job and postgraduate studies. I know conditions can vary quite a bit (especially between the UK and US) so some farms may offer much better conditions than others. Many milk and beef cows in the UK are fed on grass and spend quie a bit of time in the oputside environment so do have a better life (to a certain extent) than veal calves.

As for the vegetarianism I will havve a look a the link you sent me and try to find out some more info. I did buy a few books on vegetarianism and nutrition before I started but I didn't realise how hard it would be for me to keep my protein and iron levels up. Gluten intolerance and/ or coeliac disease also makes it difficult for you to absorb mineral and nutrients through the lining of gut so I think that makes it a bit more difficult when going veggie.
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Reply #85 posted 07/06/05 7:11am

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So i reckon you don't eat pasta then ?
That would be really hard for me , i love it
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Reply #86 posted 07/06/05 8:41am

LolaM

Dewrede said:

So i reckon you don't eat pasta then ?
That would be really hard for me , i love it
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I have gluten-free pasta but some of it tastes like the box it came it in ill
The bread is even worse
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Reply #87 posted 07/06/05 8:50am

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that sucks , i pity you
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Reply #88 posted 07/06/05 8:38pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

retina said:



I know what you're talking about. It's usually the people that see themselves as more "pure" or "enlightened" or "healthy" that have that kind of attitude. People with beards and sandals, in a literal or non-literal sense. Like morning people for example. They rule the world! Not only do I have to get up at seven a.m. to work because of them, they also have to make it clear to me that they think evening people are lazy and "miss so much of the day". Well they miss a whole big chunk of the night! Fuckers...


lol so much is in the attitude - i'm a vegan who is annoyingly chipper early in the morning! woot! sun my husband is a meat-eater who hates getting up in the morning - every morning, he lets out a barrage of curses that would make a sailor blush...

yet we get along great - go figure! thumbs up!


your married? omfg

you flirt around here worse then a sailor...i just assumed u were single... ;giggle:
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Reply #89 posted 07/06/05 8:47pm

Fauxie

I don't discriminate. I'll annoy anyone who crosses my path. neutral

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