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Reply #30 posted 07/02/05 12:27pm

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2the9s said:

Haha!

Vegetarians can be some FUCKED up people!

Good topic!

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Reply #31 posted 07/02/05 1:12pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

Nero said:

I've been watching The Best of VH1 this afternoon because I'm too tired to do much else. Anyhow, they've got the Surreal Life with Ron Jeremy & co. That annoying bitch who was on Baywatch is also on this particular episode. She's just debated, stupidly, about being a vegetarian.

I hate vegetarians who shove their way of life at people. I've been getting my vegetarian on for some time now, and I couldn't care less if someone eats a damn steak in front of me. Have at it! Eat your damn meat!


let me just understand - you're a vegetarian? i'm confused.


Yes. I'm a vegetarian. woot! Well, a pesco-vegetarian, any way. biggrin
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Reply #32 posted 07/02/05 1:12pm

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[sarcasm] i'm sorry that we are apparently infringing on your quality of life in such an extensive way. i had no idea. [/sarcasm]

there are annoying vegetarians, there are annoying meat eaters. there are just as many people on either side who are perfectly fine, well-adjusted, curteous people. i don't understand why some of you feel compelled to paint with such a wide brush.

people talk to me about what kind of meat they ate last night all the time. i can put that into perspective, without reacting in such harsh ways as some have on this thread. maybe if you just listened for a minute about why they chose to be vegetarian or vegan, you might learn something you didn't know before. that doesn't mean they'll convert you, it just means that you keep an open mind. and that's good for all kinds of things... peace
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Reply #33 posted 07/02/05 1:20pm

Teacher

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Dewrede pisses me off.. he is a basher too.. mad



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Reply #34 posted 07/02/05 1:25pm

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Reincarnate said:

JoeyMFinCoco said:

Actually there are a few of those people on this forum as well and I also know a few IRL.


In response to Nero, this type of comment does make me defensive and I'll explain why.

I have never come across any vegetarian or vegan who has preached to me on the subject. Never. I have, however, come across people who have derided me and tried to convince me that eating a vegetarian diet is not healthy and some even go as far as to tell me I'm stupid to follow this type of regime and that mankind wasn't meant to eat a vegetarian diet. On that basis, I think I am right to respond to this thread and that my comments on the subject are as valid as anyone elses.

I get tired of justifying my viewpoint on this subject. It's my right not to eat meat and I defend it. To say that there are people who force vegetarianism on others just isn't telling the story as it is. We are by far in the minority and sometimes we get pushed to defend ourselves. Maybe it's different in your country but where I come from I don't come across militant vegetarians.

I haven't seen vegetarians here preaching to others either. I've seen the odd thread where people have asked for recipes or discussed meat-alternatives, but the only threads I can recall where the debate has been opened have been from meat-eaters criticising us.

I just want people to stop judging other people and it seems that us vegetarians are a minority that it's ok to pick on.


Meat-eaters who do that stuff are bastards, too. You're right, if it was a bloody perfect world, we'd all just shut the hell up and do our own thing, Christians, vegetarians, meat-eaters, and pro-lifers alike. shrug

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Reply #35 posted 07/02/05 1:27pm

Teacher

I think that most of us can agree that we don't like ANYBODY to preach to us how we should live. Right? smile
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Reply #36 posted 07/02/05 1:27pm

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Teacher said:

I think that most of us can agree that we don't like ANYBODY to preach to us how we should live. Right? smile


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Reply #37 posted 07/02/05 1:32pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

[sarcasm] i'm sorry that we are apparently infringing on your quality of life in such an extensive way. i had no idea. [/sarcasm]

there are annoying vegetarians, there are annoying meat eaters. there are just as many people on either side who are perfectly fine, well-adjusted, curteous people. i don't understand why some of you feel compelled to paint with such a wide brush.

people talk to me about what kind of meat they ate last night all the time. i can put that into perspective, without reacting in such harsh ways as some have on this thread. maybe if you just listened for a minute about why they chose to be vegetarian or vegan, you might learn something you didn't know before. that doesn't mean they'll convert you, it just means that you keep an open mind. and that's good for all kinds of things... peace


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Reply #38 posted 07/02/05 1:59pm

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FUCK moby!!!!! nod
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Reply #39 posted 07/02/05 4:05pm

Reincarnate

IrresistibleB1tch said:

[sarcasm] i'm sorry that we are apparently infringing on your quality of life in such an extensive way. i had no idea. [/sarcasm]

there are annoying vegetarians, there are annoying meat eaters. there are just as many people on either side who are perfectly fine, well-adjusted, curteous people. i don't understand why some of you feel compelled to paint with such a wide brush.

people talk to me about what kind of meat they ate last night all the time. i can put that into perspective, without reacting in such harsh ways as some have on this thread. maybe if you just listened for a minute about why they chose to be vegetarian or vegan, you might learn something you didn't know before. that doesn't mean they'll convert you, it just means that you keep an open mind. and that's good for all kinds of things... peace

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Nero said

Meat-eaters who do that stuff are bastards, too. You're right, if it was a bloody perfect world, we'd all just shut the hell up and do our own thing, Christians, vegetarians, meat-eaters, and pro-lifers alike.

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Teacher said

I think that most of us can agree that we don't like ANYBODY to preach to us how we should live. Right?

thumbs up!

People who have become vegetarians have generally thought about their choices. If you come across some who preach to you then either accept that they may be new to it and therefore somewhat evangelical (as most people who have recently made any kind of life choice can tend to be) or feel free to tell them to stop being so sanctimonious and self-rightous.

If you do ask about why they have made the choice, though, listen and make your own decisions. You don't have to be rude or perpetuate the belief that all vegetarians preach. To be honest most of us have come across so many people who criticise us that we don't even mention it unless we are prompted or have to.
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Reply #40 posted 07/02/05 8:00pm

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Okay, I just watched SuperSize Me

ill

I'm going vegan.

ill
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Reply #41 posted 07/02/05 8:01pm

AzureStarr

2teh9s said:

Okay, I just watched SuperSize Me

ill

I'm going vegan.

ill


Great movie.
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Reply #42 posted 07/02/05 8:23pm

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People of all diets can be fucking preachy. But unless they're concerned for your health, it's best just to ignore them.

Myself -I don't eat much meat, but I do enjoy it every once in a while. I've got some self-imposed rules about eating meat that I've been told is pretty fuckered up. You know how some people are veg b/c they don't want to eat something that's cute? (Not common, of course, but it happens) I have no problem eating a cute animal like a rabbit or something, but I can't bring myself to eat a smart animal or a predator.

I can't eat pork because pigs are just so intelligent. Lucky for me, cows aren't particularly smart, so I can make with the burger eating. smile

I once ate bear meat though, and it felt so unnatural In nature, a bear could tear my 100 lb. self to shreds. I shouldn't be eating soemthing that can do that. neutral
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Reply #43 posted 07/02/05 9:39pm

2the9s

AzureStarr said:

2teh9s said:

Okay, I just watched SuperSize Me

ill

I'm going vegan.

ill


Great movie.


When he threw up out the window of his car...

ill
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Reply #44 posted 07/02/05 9:39pm

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JuniperBeans said:

You know since im like madly moody and pissed off right now...I think I'll post here. I personally thought..."Self...It would be cool to try out vegetarianism..." so I tried it...and then I'm like..."Self...what the hell is wrong with me....Im puerto rican I need my damn rice and beans and my damn MEAT"...So I stopped... I think its healthy to eat more veggies and all that crap right...but what drives me insane is theses scrawny ass girls...."oh look at me I don't eat meat cause ima get a fat ass....oh boohoo" ENOUGH ALREADY...Or "OMG I DONT EAT MEAT HOW DARE YOU!?" Its like okay shut the hell up and grab your salad and go ( I work as a chef )...I hear this eeeeevery day....so last night..I was preparing a rehearsal dinner...and the waitress wanted to eat...sure..eat away..oh nonono I only eat..salad she says....neutral << my face..."Meat is horrible"...neutral <<< I had to pretend to care...anyway....as I ramble on...my point is....there are some damn vegetarians who need to shut the hell up...tthe world dont need to know that they are vegans and that they don't eat eggs cheese and only survive on grass...Frankly my dear I don't give a damn...


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Reply #45 posted 07/04/05 1:28pm

Anxiety

ya know what - if dyed-in-the-wool carnivore types expect vegetarians to have a "live and let live" attitude about what other people eat, they're gonna have to keep in mind that it works both ways. my feelings mirror Reincarnate's in that i'm not some kind of evangelical zealot preaching the superiority of a vegetarian lifestyle, but if you ask me why i do it, i'm gonna tell you about it. it DOES get tiring to have all of these negative stereotypes stapled on to me when people find out i'm a vegetarian - like i'm some kind of self-righteous anemic hippie just because i don't eat your damn white castles and steaks. people who take the time and bother to get to know me know that's not the case. and, interestingly enough, those are the people i choose to respect and acknowledge. the rest of you all can just soak in your presumption and ignorance, and eat a big truckload of fattyburgers for all i care.
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Reply #46 posted 07/04/05 1:40pm

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Nero said:

I hate vegetarians who shove their way of life at people.


I know what you're talking about. It's usually the people that see themselves as more "pure" or "enlightened" or "healthy" that have that kind of attitude. People with beards and sandals, in a literal or non-literal sense. Like morning people for example. They rule the world! Not only do I have to get up at seven a.m. to work because of them, they also have to make it clear to me that they think evening people are lazy and "miss so much of the day". Well they miss a whole big chunk of the night! Fuckers...
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Reply #47 posted 07/04/05 1:47pm

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retina said:

Nero said:

I hate vegetarians who shove their way of life at people.


I know what you're talking about. It's usually the people that see themselves as more "pure" or "enlightened" or "healthy" that have that kind of attitude. People with beards and sandals, in a literal or non-literal sense. Like morning people for example. They rule the world! Not only do I have to get up at seven a.m. to work because of them, they also have to make it clear to me that they think evening people are lazy and "miss so much of the day". Well they miss a whole big chunk of the night! Fuckers...


lol so much is in the attitude - i'm a vegan who is annoyingly chipper early in the morning! woot! sun my husband is a meat-eater who hates getting up in the morning - every morning, he lets out a barrage of curses that would make a sailor blush...

yet we get along great - go figure! thumbs up!
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Reply #48 posted 07/04/05 1:51pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

retina said:



I know what you're talking about. It's usually the people that see themselves as more "pure" or "enlightened" or "healthy" that have that kind of attitude. People with beards and sandals, in a literal or non-literal sense. Like morning people for example. They rule the world! Not only do I have to get up at seven a.m. to work because of them, they also have to make it clear to me that they think evening people are lazy and "miss so much of the day". Well they miss a whole big chunk of the night! Fuckers...


lol so much is in the attitude - i'm a vegan who is annoyingly chipper early in the morning! woot! sun my husband is a meat-eater who hates getting up in the morning - every morning, he lets out a barrage of curses that would make a sailor blush...

yet we get along great - go figure! thumbs up!


Good for you. thumbs up!

I'd probably strangle you within five minutes though. wink smile
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Reply #49 posted 07/04/05 1:52pm

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retina said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



lol so much is in the attitude - i'm a vegan who is annoyingly chipper early in the morning! woot! sun my husband is a meat-eater who hates getting up in the morning - every morning, he lets out a barrage of curses that would make a sailor blush...

yet we get along great - go figure! thumbs up!


Good for you. thumbs up!

I'd probably strangle you within five minutes though. wink smile


lol you probably would. and i have a sneaking suspicion that my husband has been tempted himself more than once! wink
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Reply #50 posted 07/04/05 2:19pm

crazyhorse

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I've been watching The Best of VH1 this afternoon because I'm too tired to do much else. Anyhow, they've got the Surreal Life with Ron Jeremy & co. That annoying bitch who was on Baywatch is also on this particular episode. She's just debated, stupidly, about being a vegetarian.

I hate vegetarians who shove their way of life at people. I've been getting my vegetarian on for some time now, and I couldn't care less if someone eats a damn steak in front of me. Have at it! Eat your damn meat!

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Reply #51 posted 07/04/05 3:00pm

Anxiety

i'm gonna start making org pot-luck dishes out of this stuff:

http://www.eathufu.com/home.asp


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Reply #52 posted 07/04/05 3:25pm

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eek
That's some sick shit there man shake
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Reply #53 posted 07/04/05 3:26pm

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Anxiety said:

i'm gonna start making org pot-luck dishes out of this stuff:

http://www.eathufu.com/home.asp


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barf warn me so I won't be there please.
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Reply #54 posted 07/04/05 3:28pm

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Anxiety said:

i'm gonna start making org pot-luck dishes out of this stuff:

http://www.eathufu.com/home.asp


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barf warn me so I won't be there please.


oh, i'll make sure to give plenty of notice. evillol
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Reply #55 posted 07/05/05 12:49am

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Anxiety said:

i'm gonna start making org pot-luck dishes out of this stuff:

http://www.eathufu.com/home.asp


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hmmm

This actually raises some interesting question about why eating animal flesh is socially acceptable, but eating human flesh is a huge social taboo.

Where did that gross factor come from? Did it stem from a natural instinct for self-preservation in which seeing something on your plate that once looked like you was too much for most people to handle? In which case, what of tribal societies where cannibalism plays an important part in religious and ceremonial rituals?


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Reply #56 posted 07/05/05 1:05am

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Finally someone who acknowledges the fact that humans are meat too ;

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eating meat is almost cannibalism , imo , after all , we're nothing but mamal
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Reply #57 posted 07/05/05 1:33am

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Dewrede said:

Finally someone who acknowledges the fact that humans are meat too ;

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eating meat is almost cannibalism , imo , after all , we're nothing but mamal

I do eat meat, but this has occurred to me more than a few times when I sit down for a meal. To really be consistent, I'd either have to take up eating human flesh, or give up meat altogether.

Something to think on for a while, I think. hmmm
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Reply #58 posted 07/05/05 1:40am

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thumbs up! smile
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Reply #59 posted 07/05/05 1:41am

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Dewrede said:

thumbs up! smile

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