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Thread started 06/24/05 3:40pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

do they REALLY think we buy...

... that this is an isolated case? disbelief

Second case of mad cow disease confirmed
USDA says animal didn't enter food supply

Friday, June 24, 2005; Posted: 4:07 p.m. EDT (20:07 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tests have confirmed mad cow disease in a U.S. cow previously cleared of having the brain wasting illness, the Agriculture Department said Friday. It is the second case of mad cow disease in the United States.

Human health was not at risk, Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns said. The animal was a "downer," meaning it was unable to walk. Such animals are banned from the food supply.

An internationally recognized laboratory in Weybridge, England, confirmed the case of mad cow disease after U.S. tests produced conflicting results, Johanns said.

New tests were ordered two weeks ago. Those results came back positive, leading officials to seek confirmation from the Weybridge lab. The department also performed more tests at its lab in Ames, Iowa.

The first case confirmed in the U.S. was in December 2003, a dairy cow imported from Canada.

"I am encouraged that our interlocking safeguards are working exactly as intended," Johanns said.

"This animal was blocked from entering the food supply because of the firewalls we have in place. Americans have every reason to continue to be confident in the safety of our beef," he said.


i wonder:

- why will the USDA not release any information on where this cow was found, and how far the investigation of the rest of the herd will go. (including the cow's calves, who i'm sure have since been sold to other parts of the country)

- should we worry about the fact that two US tests proved inconclusive, and only a test in the UK confirmed that the sample tested positive for mad cow disease? the USDA had already completed its investigation (this cow had been slaughtered in November), when demands for further tests by consumer groups forced them to send the samples to the lab in England.

will news like this influence your food choices?
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Reply #1 posted 06/24/05 3:45pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

I really eat beef maybe twice a year. I do like chicken and fish. I can't say it has influenced me in the past HOWEVER, yes I wouldn't select red meat for the table.
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Reply #2 posted 06/24/05 3:52pm

XxAxX

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poor cows. i'd be mad if i were treated that way too
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Reply #3 posted 06/24/05 3:55pm

Handclapsfinga
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y'know what's even more fucked up? i work for the usda (as a mere office clerk, nothing special). i haven't heard a whole lot about this particular case, save for in the media. i suppose i'd be hearing more about it if the cow came from someplace within the district my office works with.


cow bad beef edit
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Reply #4 posted 06/24/05 4:01pm

Dewrede

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Reply #5 posted 06/24/05 4:03pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

I really eat beef maybe twice a year. I do like chicken and fish. I can't say it has influenced me in the past HOWEVER, yes I wouldn't select red meat for the table.


cool! i guess the kind of beef you're eating is important, too. if you have a steak, obviously, it's from one cow. hamburgers can have meat from a number of different cows in them, increasing your chances of contamination.
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Reply #6 posted 06/24/05 4:04pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

XxAxX said:

poor cows. i'd be mad if i were treated that way too


nod so-called "downer cows", as this one was, are especially sad...
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Reply #7 posted 06/24/05 4:07pm

XxAxX

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

XxAxX said:

poor cows. i'd be mad if i were treated that way too


nod so-called "downer cows", as this one was, are especially sad...


awww. what a shameful species we are. i love cows. big old creatures munching away on grass....

i really think us humans need to get our shit together on the issue of animal abuse. i've stopped eating meat that comes from factory farms. for now that pretty much limits me to fish, since i know the fish wasn't abused. or at least i hope not... sad
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Reply #8 posted 06/24/05 4:08pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

y'know what's even more fucked up? i work for the usda (as a mere office clerk, nothing special). i haven't heard a whole lot about this particular case, save for in the media. i suppose i'd be hearing more about it if the cow came from someplace within the district my office works with.


cow bad beef edit
[Edited 6/24/05 15:56pm]


oh, i didn't know you worked for them. obviously, they have an important role to play in safeguarding our food supply. but i can't help feeling a little cynical when the people who are in charge of keeping our food safe seem to downplay the possible danger of this, after what we've seen in the UK and throughout Europe. shrug

i'd love to hear what the inside "scoop" is for you guys next week. can you keep me posted?
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Reply #9 posted 06/24/05 4:09pm

Mach

eek i REALLY dislike buying meat from the market anyway

ill
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Reply #10 posted 06/24/05 4:11pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

XxAxX said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



nod so-called "downer cows", as this one was, are especially sad...


awww. what a shameful species we are. i love cows. big old creatures munching away on grass....

i really think us humans need to get our shit together on the issue of animal abuse. i've stopped eating meat that comes from factory farms. for now that pretty much limits me to fish, since i know the fish wasn't abused. or at least i hope not... sad


you're on the right way! nod peace
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Reply #11 posted 06/24/05 4:11pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

Dewrede said:



well, when you're right you're right. no meat without bloodshed.

but this is really about food safety and (at least in my mind) corporate interests...
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Reply #12 posted 06/24/05 4:12pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

Mach said:

eek i REALLY dislike buying meat from the market anyway

ill


where do you get yours?
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Reply #13 posted 06/24/05 4:22pm

Handclapsfinga
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IrresistibleB1tch said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

y'know what's even more fucked up? i work for the usda (as a mere office clerk, nothing special). i haven't heard a whole lot about this particular case, save for in the media. i suppose i'd be hearing more about it if the cow came from someplace within the district my office works with.


cow bad beef edit
[Edited 6/24/05 15:56pm]


oh, i didn't know you worked for them. obviously, they have an important role to play in safeguarding our food supply. but i can't help feeling a little cynical when the people who are in charge of keeping our food safe seem to downplay the possible danger of this, after what we've seen in the UK and throughout Europe. shrug

i feel the exact same way you do sometimes. nod just because i work for the government doesn't mean that i gotta go along with and agree with all they say and do. like i had said, i didn't even hear about this within the agency till the media mentioned it. normally they do say where the cow originated from, so this is really weird to me. eek

i'd love to hear what the inside "scoop" is for you guys next week. can you keep me posted? [/b]

if i hear of anything i'll let ya know. hug



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Reply #14 posted 06/24/05 4:24pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

Handclapsfingasnapz said:[quote]

IrresistibleB1tch said:


i feel the exact same way you do sometimes. nod just because i work for the government doesn't mean that i gotta go along with and agree with all they say and do. like i had said, i didn't even hear about this within the agency till the media mentioned it. normally they do say where the cow originated from, so this is really weird to me. eek

i'd love to hear what the inside "scoop" is for you guys next week. can you keep me posted? [/b]

if i hear of anything i'll let ya know. hug



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[Edited 6/24/05 16:23pm]


thank, gurlie! hug
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Reply #15 posted 06/24/05 4:29pm

Dewrede

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

Dewrede said:



well, when you're right you're right. no meat without bloodshed.

but this is really about food safety and (at least in my mind) corporate interests...


Yeah , i know
But all of this wouldn't be happening if people just realized how cruel
and sick eating meat is
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Reply #16 posted 06/24/05 4:35pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

Dewrede said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



well, when you're right you're right. no meat without bloodshed.

but this is really about food safety and (at least in my mind) corporate interests...


Yeah , i know
But all of this wouldn't be happening if people just realized how cruel
and sick eating meat is


nod true, true!
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Reply #17 posted 06/24/05 4:36pm

Dewrede

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Sorry , didn't mean to jack your thread by the way ,
This case indeed is suspect
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Reply #18 posted 06/24/05 4:40pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

Dewrede said:

sorry , didn't mean to jack your thread by the way ,
This case indeed is outrageous


not to worry - an unjacked thread is a boring thread! lol

i'm really interested in understanding what it would take for somebody to stop eating beef (or meat altogether, for that matter). this case worries me on several levels, and should worry others, too.
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Reply #19 posted 06/24/05 4:41pm

cocofantasy

Dewrede said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



well, when you're right you're right. no meat without bloodshed.

but this is really about food safety and (at least in my mind) corporate interests...


Yeah , i know
But all of this wouldn't be happening if people just realized how cruel
and sick eating meat is


I'd kill the fuckers myself if I had to.
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Reply #20 posted 06/24/05 4:41pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

cocofantasy said:

Dewrede said:



Yeah , i know
But all of this wouldn't be happening if people just realized how cruel
and sick eating meat is


I'd kill the fuckers myself if I had to.


cool. few people can say that.
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Reply #21 posted 06/24/05 4:42pm

Dewrede

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cocofantasy said:

Dewrede said:



Yeah , i know
But all of this wouldn't be happening if people just realized how cruel
and sick eating meat is


I'd kill the fuckers myself if I had to.


sad
well , at least you're not a hypocrite
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Reply #22 posted 06/24/05 4:46pm

Dewrede

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

Dewrede said:

sorry , didn't mean to jack your thread by the way ,
This case indeed is outrageous


not to worry - an unjacked thread is a boring thread! lol

i'm really interested in understanding what it would take for somebody to stop eating beef (or meat altogether, for that matter). this case worries me on several levels, and should worry others, too.


ok biggrin
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Reply #23 posted 06/24/05 5:26pm

Mach

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Mach said:

eek i REALLY dislike buying meat from the market anyway

ill


where do you get yours?


we know some people here in the county that raise free range

and buy from them

also from local fresh markets ...organic farmers

ipersonally dont eat red meats and very little other meats
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Reply #24 posted 06/24/05 5:28pm

cocofantasy

Mach said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



where do you get yours?


we know some people here in the county that raise free range

and buy from them

also from local fresh markets ...organic farmers

ipersonally dont eat red meats and very little other meats


Other little meat? wink
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Reply #25 posted 06/24/05 5:52pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

Mach said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



where do you get yours?


we know some people here in the county that raise free range

and buy from them

also from local fresh markets ...organic farmers

ipersonally dont eat red meats and very little other meats


cool! nod
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Reply #26 posted 06/24/05 5:54pm

Mach

cocofantasy said:

Mach said:



we know some people here in the county that raise free range

and buy from them

also from local fresh markets ...organic farmers

ipersonally dont eat red meats and very little other meats


Other little meat? wink


omg very little OTHER meats
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Reply #27 posted 06/24/05 5:57pm

BananaCologne

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Reply #28 posted 06/24/05 6:06pm

Anxiety

all i know is, i'm really glad i'm a vegetarian, and that i've been one for a good long time before i ever heard the phrase "mad cow disease". nod
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Reply #29 posted 06/24/05 6:10pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

BananaCologne said:



nod thumbs up!
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