beret1022 said:

Yes I understand, the nurses etc are very badly paid over here in the UK, and many other workers, but they are devoted to their jobs and dont moan around like saintsation wanting to party till his 30s...

Anxiety said:

When i was in college I had 4 jobs and a full class load too.
Sometimes you do what you have to do.

CarrieLee said:

Amen, thats what i tell my cousin.

REDFEATHERS said:

NOT TRUE AT ALL, I aM A PERFECT EXAPLE, I cut classes and made f's and a new orleans public school product and i am making over 26 an hour here where i work in minneapolis. I travel and everything. So education really doesn't make a difference. I have an airframe license and used to make over 30 an hour at northwest airlines before they fired me 5 yrs ago. So your statement is not true,.

saintsation said:

There are well paid jobs out there. Even when I was waitressing I was VERY well paid. It depends on how well devoted you are to your work, and how far you can work your way up, also good relations with the boss/manager do help too..

Some people just do not look hard enough..

REDFEATHERS said:

I have both.

But I also have a problem with shopping.

CarrieLee said:

Oh me too, which is why I hardly ever shop now...

saintsation said:

then how come i can't get a job doing what i really wish to do then? in order for me to even get so much as noticed by an art studio or what-not, they want a cat who has a degree in the needed areas of expertise. i flunked my art classes in high school--not because i didn't have the ability, but simply because i felt it was pointless to learn how to do another artist's style of work when i already got my own thing. the majority of my artistic expertise has been self-taught--you think a muthafucka's gonna wanna take me on without any college degree or formal training? most cats today wanna see a diploma of some sort. it's silly really, a piece of paper that tells folks "hey look, i can do what i do real well!" as opposed to just proving shit up front. silly, but that's how the world works.

sorry saintsation, but you need to get your head outta the clouds. just because you got in the way you did don't mean that everybody else can get in where they fit in as well. that's life, not a given.

REDFEATHERS said:

If I didn't have credit card debt and a sunglasses addiction I'd be loaded.

CarrieLee said:

Me too.. just nearly paid off (about $25,000) debt this month, after trying not to shop as much as I used to..

REDFEATHERS said:

Ok, my addiction is no where near yours. I'm in debt about 3 grand...

CarrieLee said:

Worst part was telling my Dad.. wont get into that shit again.. I tell you.. its not worth it..

REDFEATHERS said:

I am not moaning about it, i just think everyone should enjoy life young.

REDFEATHERS said:

FREE RIDE, WHAT! I earn everything i got. Now my ex's i have may have a free ride cause i paid for everything when i go out of town and concerts but FREE RIDE, hell no. I earned my life.

saintsation said:

Not everyone is fortunate as your exes to have man to pay for everything. I hope, though you do that out of the goodness of your heart, and not for control reasons.

saintsation said:

But life cant hand out everyone say £50,000 and say go out and party while you are young.. some ppl have money, some dont, some have better parties and social lifes with less money than others.. it all depends.. you are suggesting everyone should have the same treatment and same standards, it just doesnt work that way..

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

My job here might be hiring due to retirements i was told. I let you know. also my head is not in the clouds, I am just saying education is not all that to bend over backwards for. Look at bag smashers at Northwest they make 17 dolars an hour just to toss luggage .
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1sexymf said:

Control what control, i do that cause i don't want to do it by myself, U saying when i went to Prince concert in detroit, chicago, cleveland, and mpls, Take trips to vegas, los angeles, football games with my teams raiders and saints, amusement parks like cedar point and six flags throughout country, i did it for control of someone, i did it t ohave fun and for my significant other to have fun with me. Thats not control sweetheart.

saintsation said:

bag smashers...*remembers that story on the news a while back about some of 'em gettin caught on tape throwin peoples' luggage around*

in order to make it and make it well enough in life, you gotta have an education. it ain't gotta be any sorta ivy league-type affair, but you gotta have some sorta learnin under your belt. you cannot get by in this world for completely free.

saintsation said:

so how come you got all this and your cousin got jack shit?

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Basically u need skills, look at the nfl players and nba players also. when they on camera they talk ghetto like i type. They have skills. I had skills to fix airplanes at northwest and i had skills to get in this job here taking 3 simulation tests in denver, phoenix and here in minneapolis. None of those jobs ask what u made on your report card or who discovered america. Its skills. and what u do. Porno stars are dropouts but they do it good like me and now millionaires so its skills.

REDFEATHERS said:

Cause they weren't as lucky and skilled as i am. I know my job here will be hiring later in sept and oct about 20 people and i will try to get em in though.

saintsation said:

Depends on what you want to do. For alot of jobs an education may not be a necessity, but it can make it alot easier to get your foot in the door.

For other jobs, doesn't matter how skilled you are, you need a degree if you want to do it. Period.

You want to practice law, medicine, accounting. You need a degree, regardless of how much natural ability you may have.

saintsation said:

so basically they deserve the shit they are handed..

Universaluv said:

Witch and voodoo doctors can perform same thing doctors does,I can be a lawyer, i could have defended Micahel jackson and got him off, but u need a degree for tht cause its required but u tell me would u want to defend someone if u new they were guilty, also accounting, i know math like the back of my hands. Anybody can do that like file your taxes. i can teach u ?

saintsation said:

Well, if you ever need a major medical procedure you can go to a witch doctor if you want. I'll take the dude with a degree while you're having chicken blood poured over your genitals and set on fire.

Not all lawyers are criminal defense attorneys. Actually, most aren't.

There's more to being a CPA than filing taxes.