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Thread started 06/17/05 1:21pm

Fleshofmyflesh

Who's watching Oprah right now?

OH God.....it's unbearable.
It's about fathers who've sexually abused their daughters.
One was a preacher. Actually abused her on the alter in the church.



We need vaPOOrize for these people.


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Reply #1 posted 06/17/05 1:25pm

ReturnOfDOOK

Before I opened the thread, I was gonna post something like "nope - not watching Oprah - I don't have a large screen tv". But then I saw the subject matter of the show so I decided not to.
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Reply #2 posted 06/17/05 1:25pm

Number23

ReturnOfDOOK said:

Before I opened the thread, I was gonna post something like "nope - not watching Oprah - I don't have a large screen tv". But then I saw the subject matter of the show so I decided not to.

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Reply #3 posted 06/17/05 1:27pm

JoeyMFinCoco

So what is the value of all this "information"?
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Reply #4 posted 06/17/05 1:29pm

Fleshofmyflesh

JoeyMFinCoco said:

So what is the value of all this "information"?



I suppose it gives other victims courage - to speak out, to stand up.
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Reply #5 posted 06/17/05 1:29pm

Fleshofmyflesh

ReturnOfDOOK said:

Before I opened the thread, I was gonna post something like "nope - not watching Oprah - I don't have a large screen tv". But then I saw the subject matter of the show so I decided not to.



You've inspired a new thread
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Reply #6 posted 06/17/05 1:31pm

JoeyMFinCoco

Fleshofmyflesh said:

JoeyMFinCoco said:

So what is the value of all this "information"?



I suppose it gives other victims courage - to speak out, to stand up.


Are you that gullible? confused
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Reply #7 posted 06/17/05 1:32pm

Fleshofmyflesh

JoeyMFinCoco said:

Fleshofmyflesh said:




I suppose it gives other victims courage - to speak out, to stand up.


Are you that gullible? confused



Oh, and ratings.
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Reply #8 posted 06/17/05 1:32pm

IrresistibleB1
tch

Fleshofmyflesh said:

JoeyMFinCoco said:

So what is the value of all this "information"?



I suppose it gives other victims courage - to speak out, to stand up.


nod too many of these crimes go unreported, and the victims are struggling with overcoming the emotional anguish that follows. as hard as it is to watch the show, it's important that these crimes are discussed publicly.
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Reply #9 posted 06/17/05 2:25pm

missklhk

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ew! a mom and daughter that are sisters as well??? disbelief I love my dad. I can't imagine someting like that! gross!
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Reply #10 posted 06/17/05 2:27pm

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this reminds me of that crazy black man in Fresno, CA that murdered his children and his daughters all had babies by him. ill he should get death!
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Reply #11 posted 06/17/05 2:31pm

Anxiety

it's great to have shows that give victims the strength to speak out and confront, but what bothers me is that you never see a proliferation of shows about how victims can come to a place of closure or learn to exorcise the anger/bitterness/guilt that comes with the process of confronting and speaking out. i know a few very strong people who have been able to come full circle in this process and shed the "victim" part of their lives, and i know so many more who have this huge ball of angry energy that they carry - righteous and understandable angry energy, to be sure - but i can just see it eating them up like cancer. placing blame on people and holding others accountable for what they've done is great, but the process doesn't end there. i don't think enough people understand that, and it's a shame.
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Reply #12 posted 06/17/05 4:44pm

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Anxiety said:

it's great to have shows that give victims the strength to speak out and confront, but what bothers me is that you never see a proliferation of shows about how victims can come to a place of closure or learn to exorcise the anger/bitterness/guilt that comes with the process of confronting and speaking out. i know a few very strong people who have been able to come full circle in this process and shed the "victim" part of their lives, and i know so many more who have this huge ball of angry energy that they carry - righteous and understandable angry energy, to be sure - but i can just see it eating them up like cancer. placing blame on people and holding others accountable for what they've done is great, but the process doesn't end there. i don't think enough people understand that, and it's a shame.


nod

but there's certainly only so much a one-hour show can do. the three sisters on Oprah's show actually said that they had forgiven their father, which is an important step toward what we like to call "closure" (god, i hate that term).

there's value in those shows that allow people to see others who have been through a similar agony. the rest of the process is probably best left to the support of family and friends, and the expertise of a professional therapist.
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Reply #13 posted 06/17/05 6:42pm

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I missed this one, but a while back Oprah did a show on a similar topic. I couldn't stop crying.....my roommates couldn't stop cryin' either. I think that was the most I ever cried watching a tv show.
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Reply #14 posted 06/20/05 8:27pm

Anxiety

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Anxiety said:

it's great to have shows that give victims the strength to speak out and confront, but what bothers me is that you never see a proliferation of shows about how victims can come to a place of closure or learn to exorcise the anger/bitterness/guilt that comes with the process of confronting and speaking out. i know a few very strong people who have been able to come full circle in this process and shed the "victim" part of their lives, and i know so many more who have this huge ball of angry energy that they carry - righteous and understandable angry energy, to be sure - but i can just see it eating them up like cancer. placing blame on people and holding others accountable for what they've done is great, but the process doesn't end there. i don't think enough people understand that, and it's a shame.


nod

but there's certainly only so much a one-hour show can do. the three sisters on Oprah's show actually said that they had forgiven their father, which is an important step toward what we like to call "closure" (god, i hate that term).

there's value in those shows that allow people to see others who have been through a similar agony. the rest of the process is probably best left to the support of family and friends, and the expertise of a professional therapist.


right. i just think that a lot of people don't know that they don't have to consider themselves victims forever - that there's a next step. to some extent, abuse does leave a permanent scar, but i do think it's possible to work toward making those scars really small. a lot of people wear their anger like a badge, whether they mean to or not, and my concern with all this is that anger and bitterness can eat people up if not tamed or put into some kind of perspective, no matter how long it takes.

i don't know if i'm making a bit of sense.
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Reply #15 posted 06/20/05 8:30pm

unlucky7

There was also an episdoe last week on men raping babies. Very sad sad
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Reply #16 posted 06/20/05 8:37pm

NoodleSoup

Unfortunately, rightly or wrongly, I file these kinds of shows with 'Train Wrecks', 'When Bridges Collapse', 'When Machines Go Wrong' and the like.

I suppose I just find it hard to watch, though I also suppose I should try.
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Reply #17 posted 06/21/05 4:47am

IrresistibleB1
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Anxiety said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



nod

but there's certainly only so much a one-hour show can do. the three sisters on Oprah's show actually said that they had forgiven their father, which is an important step toward what we like to call "closure" (god, i hate that term).

there's value in those shows that allow people to see others who have been through a similar agony. the rest of the process is probably best left to the support of family and friends, and the expertise of a professional therapist.


right. i just think that a lot of people don't know that they don't have to consider themselves victims forever - that there's a next step. to some extent, abuse does leave a permanent scar, but i do think it's possible to work toward making those scars really small. a lot of people wear their anger like a badge, whether they mean to or not, and my concern with all this is that anger and bitterness can eat people up if not tamed or put into some kind of perspective, no matter how long it takes.

i don't know if i'm making a bit of sense.



nod you're making all kinds of sense, especially about wearing the anger like a badge - it's very sad to see, and hard to deal with as an outsider.
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